Mick Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Steven Taylor takes backing off to the next level like, 4-5 times in the past 3 games he's had a centre forward running at him and he's led them from about 40 yards out to the end of his 18 yard line. You have to have balance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 He was f***ing rubbish man if running backwards was an Olympic event All defenders back off at times, it's coached into them that they don't dive in and take themselves out of the game. Well he listened well to that part then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Was always a very decent and capable defender. Unfashionable because technically he was very limited, a little pressure and he would hoof it. Going forward his crossing was awful. But he could actually defend and fairly handy in the air for a fullback. Off the pitch he seems a bad egg but around the football club he seemed decent. On the pitch he gives it his all. He's shown in a couple of seasons he can be a part of a very organised and determined back four - that speaks to his character. The stick he got was OTT. He was never as bad as Janmaat has been this season. On another note I think we've really missed Dummett these last couple of months. By a mile the most solid FB at the club and he's the best defensive header of the ball at the club. He gets his head on a good number of defensive corner and free kicks and we've looked even more vulnerable from set pieces without him. Another with s great attitude on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 People were hardly wrong at the time like Him and Williamson in defence next to each other was an eyesore and he'd probably be no better than Janmaat if he was still here. Janmaat and Taylor are equally as poor at present if not worse... Aye I completely agree, we're just shit though. Janmaat would look a lot better if he was playing for Leicester than he does here. I don't think they'd be winning the title if Janmaat was there like. He quite often goes missing and is individually culpable for a lot of the goals we concede. No amount of organisation can make a player give a shit. Janmaat just doesn't care about defending enough. It's not his thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 You'd have said the same thing about Danny Simpson (or any other player in the world for that matter) 8 months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 He's pretty shit, as is Wes Morgan and most of the other players they have. They're an incredible team with a few very good players. Put Wes Morgan in our back four and he'd be a donkey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 You'd have said the same thing about Danny Simpson (or any other player in the world for that matter) 8 months ago. No I wouldn't, even when he was here I always thought his weakness was going forward, not defending. He's still fairly ordinary but he's solid which means he can form part of a solid defence. Janmaat is defensively unreliable so he wouldn't be part of a successful defence. At least not the way he's performed for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Thing with all the Leicester players is they're capable of the basics of their position. We spent 10m on another central defender that is relatively weak - physically and in the air. Concede cheap goals like yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Not really defending Taylor or Simpson regarding their backing off, but no-one has ever really advanced an alternative option. If you are the last line of defence, it's quite tough to push up on a player quicker than you and try and pinch the ball. It isn't necessarily a terrible tactic if you are trying to buy some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I saw Morgan in the Copa America where Jamaica lost each game 1-0, and he played very well. Then he went to the Gold Cup and lost in the final. Another quality performance from him. I think playing at that higher level plus coming off that end to the Premier League season has elevated his levels. I'm happy for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 You'd have said the same thing about Danny Simpson (or any other player in the world for that matter) 8 months ago. No I wouldn't, even when he was here I always thought his weakness was going forward, not defending. He's still fairly ordinary but he's solid which means he can form part of a solid defence. Janmaat is defensively unreliable so he wouldn't be part of a successful defence. At least not the way he's performed for us. His weakness here was obviously going forward but that's pretty irrelevant as we were also tragic at the defending lark too, no better or worse than we are now. He hardly covered himself in consistent glory. Not a single person realistically thought Jamie Vardie, Wes Morgan, Rob Huth, Danny Simpson, Danny Drinkwater and Marc Albrighton would form the majority of a title winning Premiership team, it's beyond comprehension. I don't think you can say with any conviction that Daryl Janmaat either improves or weakens that side had he been there from the start. You can say that for pretty much any player in the Premiership tbh. 7 of the players in their starting XI were nearly relegated last season ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Always been a decent defensively. Far better than what we've seen from Janmaat defensively in these 2 years. Janmaat's personally liable for a number of goals conceded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 So fuck, as an all round full back he's bang average if that. Let's all try and look git clever by saying we were wrong for rightfully fucking him off in favour of the infinitely better Debuchy though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Not really defending Taylor or Simpson regarding their backing off, but no-one has ever really advanced an alternative option. If you are the last line of defence, it's quite tough to push up on a player quicker than you and try and pinch the ball. It isn't necessarily a terrible tactic if you are trying to buy some time. I agree that you have to jockey attackers to buy time for players to get back in but you don't back off into your own area. As soon as they're in the final third and in a central position where they can shoot you should be standing your ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 So f***, as an all round full back he's bang average if that. Let's all try and look git clever by saying we were wrong for rightfully f***ing him off in favour of the infinitely better Debuchy though. Debuchy is better like. I'll give you that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Aye, Debuchy showed he could defend when he was with us. It's the Dutchman that is woeful at his main duties. Much like Cisse I'm not sure he knows what to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 A lot of people were arguing Janmaat was better than Debuchy last season tbf. FWIW I'm not saying Janmaat is better or worse than Danny Simpson (or Debuchy), he's been horrible bar a handful of decent attacking displays this season. I just think this conversation is pretty daft given Leicester have been a complete anomaly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Aye, Debuchy showed he could defend when he was with us. It's the Dutchman that is woeful at his main duties. Much like Cisse I'm not sure he knows what to do. Similar to that 5 in 34 Vardy lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Was Vardy blissfully unaware of the offside rule? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I divn't kna. He was absolutely shite though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 You don't like Cisse, we fucking get it. You do not need to raise it in every fucking thread bar the one it would require discussion you total fucking bore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Hans you seem upset. I've always felt Simpson ridicule was OTT. He could always defend pretty well. I never saw him being a starter in a side of any repute because of his technical limitations. I think that's fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Relax man. It's Sunday. I've said Cisse should start until the end of the season because he's capable of the most important aspect of his position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I think it was over the top but that tends to happen when we're awful. I think most accepted he was a decent enough defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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