Gaz Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 You are also taught as a kid not to dive in, don't go to ground and end up left on your arse as they get a clear run into the box. I think he gets some very harsh criticism on here, we have bigger issues other than Danny. Lets worry more about our absolute lack of CB cover. Yet he does dive in further up the pitch! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 You are also taught as a kid not to dive in, don't go to ground and end up left on your arse as they get a clear run into the box. I think he gets some very harsh criticism on here, we have bigger issues other than Danny. Lets worry more about our absolute lack of CB cover. Simpson does all of those things you mention. What bigger issues do we have other than him btw? He's by far the weakest link in our team, I'd say he's a pretty big concern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 A lot has to do with cover, at LB Jonas is there to help and he does constantly also Colo is a very bright and aware CB who is over quick to cover. Simpson does not get a lot of cover from Obertan and although Taylor is looking a much better CB, he is not the brightest button and at times offers Danny little help. I am not saying Danny is world class or that he does not deserve a bit of stick, I just think some of the stick is OTT. He does seem to be suffering at the moment, if thats due to what is happening in his personal life than maybe he does need a break but dropping him may just make matters worse. We have to look at how we do as a back four though and so far in the Premiership our defence has been outstanding and Danny has been a constant part of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 A lot has to do with cover, at LB Jonas is there to help and he does constantly also Colo is a very bright and aware CB who is over quick to cover. Simpson does not get a lot of cover from Obertan and although Taylor is looking a much better CB, he is not the brightest button and at times offers Danny little help. I am not saying Danny is world class or that he does not deserve a bit of stick, I just think some of the stick is OTT. He does seem to be suffering at the moment, if thats due to what is happening in his personal life than maybe he does need a break but dropping him may just make matters worse. We have to look at how we do as a back four though and so far in the Premiership our defence has been outstanding and Danny has been a constant part of that. You're spot on about Colo like, he covered a lot for Raylor against Wigan. There just isn't the same support down the right, regardless of who plays fullback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Its a fact.. Danny would be better at LB purely because of who would be helping him out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Its a fact.. Danny would be better at LB purely because of who would be helping him out He had cover last year though and was poor, from day one he just seems to be getting worse every season and seems to think he is fantastic the way he goes on, on his twitter etc slating other players!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 People were touting him for England last year tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rey Mysterio Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 People were touting him for England last year tbf For which they all need shooting for. Santon wasn't particularly special when he moved to right back but the difference in quality is HUGE. Both times he has replaced Simpson there the whole team has lifted and that's no fluke. Simpson hasn't improved one bit since he made his debut for us in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 People were touting him for England last year tbf For which they all need shooting for. Santon wasn't particularly special when he moved to right back but the difference in quality is HUGE. Both times he has replaced Simpson there the whole team has lifted and that's no fluke. Simpson hasn't improved one bit since he made his debut for us in the Championship. howay man, not improved since his first game ? crazy.. and Santon moved over to RB in a wide open game where Blackburn ended up going more route one, not much came down the flank for him to have to cope with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 People were touting him for England last year tbf For which they all need shooting for. Santon wasn't particularly special when he moved to right back but the difference in quality is HUGE. Both times he has replaced Simpson there the whole team has lifted and that's no fluke. Simpson hasn't improved one bit since he made his debut for us in the Championship. Aye i'm not saying the England call up claims were founded like, but he certainly never recieved this level of prolonged hatred last year. I disagree with the "never improved" bit like, he was good for decent periods last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rey Mysterio Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 People were touting him for England last year tbf For which they all need shooting for. Santon wasn't particularly special when he moved to right back but the difference in quality is HUGE. Both times he has replaced Simpson there the whole team has lifted and that's no fluke. Simpson hasn't improved one bit since he made his debut for us in the Championship. howay man, not improved since his first game ? crazy.. and Santon moved over to RB in a wide open game where Blackburn ended up going more route one, not much came down the flank for him to have to cope with. Blackburn didn't alter the way they played all game long, it was route one from start to finish. Makes a massive difference to to team when someone who is half comfortable in possession is at full back. Seem to remember someone saying fullbacks make the most touches of any player in the team? Not sure if that's true or not but Santon & Raylor has to be the way forward until Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 People were touting him for England last year tbf For which they all need shooting for. Santon wasn't particularly special when he moved to right back but the difference in quality is HUGE. Both times he has replaced Simpson there the whole team has lifted and that's no fluke. Simpson hasn't improved one bit since he made his debut for us in the Championship. howay man, not improved since his first game ? crazy.. and Santon moved over to RB in a wide open game where Blackburn ended up going more route one, not much came down the flank for him to have to cope with. Were you at the game Skirge? Getting really confusing today with people speaking as if they saw the match when they didn't? Radio coverage is shit and seems pretty hard to judge anyone, especially over the course of 90 minutes which is why I have abstained from praising/slating our players today. Lowes gets over excited about everything and Anderson is just constantly depressed, difficult to tell WTF is going on half the time. But yeah, Simpson is a very average defender. Does get a bit too much criticism though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 No I wasn't at the match Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Whoever touted him for England (in addition to Chris 'I'm an idiot, but a funny one' Kamara) wants shooting with s****. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Definitely heading towards the camp of needing fullbacks more than we actually do a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 We need CN cover too Look am not saying Danny is world class but he is not as bas as some are trying to make out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Definitely heading towards the camp of needing fullbacks more than we actually do a striker. Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest axel Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Just seems to get worse and worse, should get rid before we won't get any money for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 We need a FB and a CF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Thought Santon looked better on the right than on the left, but that is maybe because he was replacing Simpson. Come January I'd like to see Santon play on the right and a proper left back signed. We are also crying out for some cover at centre back (I suppose that was what the Ridgewell big was meant to do). Perch has a head like a 50 pence peace and having him and Simpson on the right hand side of our defence was like a footballing version of the chuckle brothers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Whoever touted him for England (in addition to Chris 'I'm an idiot, but a funny one' Kamara) wants shooting with s****. I seem to recall the Chronicle saying that Simpson that was on a long list of players that England were monitoring last season. I guess that is where all the England talk originated from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 The Chronicle said that Sven wanted Ramage in the England squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I still want Ramage in the England squad tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 The Chronicle said that Sven wanted Ramage in the England squad. I remember reading one thing that said that Sven was going to pick Shola in order to boost ticket sales for an England game at St. James'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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