Al Moody Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexumaster Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 What of a whatter-what? Is that to officially suggest...hmm. I spot Ireland in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 In the Independent's 'Most under-rated players of the year' (alongside Gouffran-ran-ran). Take a bow son etc... CB - Mike Williamson (Newcastle) Having initially plied his trade in the lower leagues of English football, the journeyman defender seems to have finally found a home in the North East, nearing 100 league appearances for the Magpies. Since Newcastle won promotion to the Premier League in 2010, they have kept 33 clean sheets - understatedly, Williamson has started 23 of these. Confident on the ball, the centre back is also partial to a step over from time to time. Did you know? Williamson has only committed four fouls in 11 Premier League games this season, while picking up no bookings or red cards. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/the-most-underrated-players-in-the-premier-league-9015857.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Confident on the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest coalminer Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I'm not one to get carried away but where does Iron Mike sit in the pecking order of English CBs who are eligible for the WC? Probably 4th by my reckoning of current form: Jagielka Cahill Lescott Williamson Jones Smalling However, I know that selection for England isn't based on form, it's based on who you play for, so he won't be on the plane to Brazil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Not a chance he's above Jones and Smalling man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 4th. 14th maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest coalminer Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 On current form he is. Maybe not on long term ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Not a chance he's above Jones and Smalling man. neither of them ever seem to play at cb which is a big weakness for judging them as cbs. Plus Jones always looks like an accident waiting to happen at cb to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Confident on the ball he's as confident on the ball as he is juggling an unpinned grenade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Not a chance he's above Jones and Smalling man. neither of them ever seem to play at cb which is a big weakness for judging them as cbs. Plus Jones always looks like an accident waiting to happen at cb to me. But there's not a chance Hodgson would pick Williamson ahead of either of them, which is what he was alluding to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Confident on the ball he's as confident on the ball as he is juggling an unpinned grenade Clearly you've all forgotten about his stepovers on the wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I'm not one to get carried away but where does Iron Mike sit in the pecking order of English CBs who are eligible for the WC? Probably 4th by my reckoning of current form: Jagielka Cahill Lescott Williamson Jones Smalling However, I know that selection for England isn't based on form, it's based on who you play for, so he won't be on the plane to Brazil. Even Terry and Ferdinand are still higher in the pecking order than Big Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I'm not one to get carried away but where does Iron Mike sit in the pecking order of English CBs who are eligible for the WC? Probably 4th by my reckoning of current form: Jagielka Cahill Lescott Williamson Jones Smalling However, I know that selection for England isn't based on form, it's based on who you play for, so he won't be on the plane to Brazil. Even Terry and Ferdinand are still higher in the pecking order than Big Mike. Which is why the list is of players eligible for the World Cup... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest coalminer Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I'm not one to get carried away but where does Iron Mike sit in the pecking order of English CBs who are eligible for the WC? Probably 4th by my reckoning of current form: Jagielka Cahill Lescott Williamson Jones Smalling However, I know that selection for England isn't based on form, it's based on who you play for, so he won't be on the plane to Brazil. Even Terry and Ferdinand are still higher in the pecking order than Big Mike. Which is why the list is of players eligible for the World Cup... It's a frightening thought and very indicative of just how poor the pool of English players is when Williamson justifies getting into an England WC squad (although I reiterate - Roy will never pick him for the team as long as English CBs play at 'big' clubs like Man U). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 'Even Terry'? Terry's the best English CB by a mile. Quite sad, but there you go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 'Even Terry'? Terry's the best English CB by a mile. Quite sad, but there you go. I'd say Jagielka's playing a hell of a lot better than Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 'Even Terry'? Terry's the best English CB by a mile. Quite sad, but there you go. "Even Terry" in the sense that he's "retired" from the national team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Hopefully Eric Dier continues to progress with Sporting Lisbon in the next year or two, could be in with a shout come Euro '16. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 All this talk of Willo for England. We'd undoubtedly look back at this in amusement months down the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 No just no, he is having a good spell at moment but talk of England ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Don't think anyone is suggesting a starting 11 place but on current form and if that lasts the season then why can't he make the squad ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 It's as simple as him not being England level and his limitations will be badly exposed at the international stage. He will also not get the chance to sit back as he does at his club. England push forward and he will be a sitting duck to the slaughter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Not a chance he's above Jones and Smalling man. neither of them ever seem to play at cb which is a big weakness for judging them as cbs. Plus Jones always looks like an accident waiting to happen at cb to me. That's just his 'have I followed through!?' Face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Don't think anyone is suggesting a starting 11 place but on current form and if that lasts the season then why can't he make the squad ? Because we generally don't take 10 CBs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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