SUPERTOON Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Interesting to make a team of players maybe too good for the Championship (or good anyway) and not good enough for the Premier League. Carson Routledge M.Bent Chopra Earnshaw Harewood Not too good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Dorrans going by this season at WBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Peter Wittingham? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 We could get a player who will compete for a first team place, rather then accept a place on the bench. Can't think we'll find a better player willing to come and be Barton's boot cleaner tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Interesting to make a team of players maybe too good for the Championship (or good anyway) and not good enough for the Premier League. Carson Routledge M.Bent Chopra Earnshaw You've got some sort of PL vendetta against the guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Carson Routledge Whittingham Dorrans Chopra Earnshaw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Just an echo at this point, but we must be bringing someone in soon. I liked having Routledge in the team, he was a good asset as a late sub even if he couldn't cross. I guess if it were SWP he'd be marginally better, but I hate that little prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Interesting to make a team of players maybe too good for the Championship (or good anyway) and not good enough for the Premier League. Carson Routledge M.Bent Chopra Earnshaw You've got some sort of PL vendetta against the guy Not even good enough for a team happy with 17th I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 We could get a player who will compete for a first team place, rather then accept a place on the bench. Can't think we'll find a better player willing to come and be Barton's boot cleaner tbh To me it's daft that Barton or Gosling should be ahead of Routledge in the first place. They are after all central midfielders and neither has got the pace most managers would like out wide. The fact that Routledge couldn't make the right wing spot his own with no genuine competition says a lot about him IMO. A real let down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Not even good enough for a team happy with 17th I'm afraid. In your opinion. I, and many others, were more than happy with him at the start of the season, and in the few games I've seen him in the PL under Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 We could get a player who will compete for a first team place, rather then accept a place on the bench. Can't think we'll find a better player willing to come and be Barton's boot cleaner tbh To me it's daft that Barton or Gosling should be ahead of Routledge in the first place. They are after all central midfielders and neither has got the pace most managers would like out wide. The fact that Routledge couldn't make the right wing spot his own with no genuine competition says a lot about him IMO. A real let down. beckham was neither fast nor a winger, one of the best wide players this countries produced for a long time. maybe gillespie type wingers have had their day and managers want a bit more ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Not even good enough for a team happy with 17th I'm afraid. In your opinion. I, and many others, were more than happy with him at the start of the season, and in the few games I've seen him in the PL under Pardew. true, only the surprising form of barton playing out of his supposed true position kept him out the team, not rank poor performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Carson Routledge Whittingham Dorrans Chopra Earnshaw Koumas has to be in there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 We could get a player who will compete for a first team place, rather then accept a place on the bench. Can't think we'll find a better player willing to come and be Barton's boot cleaner tbh To me it's daft that Barton or Gosling should be ahead of Routledge in the first place. They are after all central midfielders and neither has got the pace most managers would like out wide. The fact that Routledge couldn't make the right wing spot his own with no genuine competition says a lot about him IMO. A real let down. beckham was neither fast nor a winger, one of the best wide players this countries produced for a long time. maybe gillespie type wingers have had their day and managers want a bit more ? I agree with that. There was a time I used to argue pace was vital out wide but without intelligence and end product it's worthless. But most managers would still like a wide player with pace given the option so the fact Routledge has it but can't get in the team tells it's own story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Not even good enough for a team happy with 17th I'm afraid. In your opinion. I, and many others, were more than happy with him at the start of the season, and in the few games I've seen him in the PL under Pardew. true, only the surprising form of barton playing out of his supposed true position kept him out the team, not rank poor performances. Exactly. I'm not pretending he's a brilliant Premiership player, but to blankly say "He's not good enough for the Premiership" is an unfair on the lad. DJ Campbell plays in the Premier League ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 We could get a player who will compete for a first team place, rather then accept a place on the bench. Can't think we'll find a better player willing to come and be Barton's boot cleaner tbh To me it's daft that Barton or Gosling should be ahead of Routledge in the first place. They are after all central midfielders and neither has got the pace most managers would like out wide. The fact that Routledge couldn't make the right wing spot his own with no genuine competition says a lot about him IMO. A real let down. beckham was neither fast nor a winger, one of the best wide players this countries produced for a long time. maybe gillespie type wingers have had their day and managers want a bit more ? I agree with that. There was a time I used to argue pace was vital out wide but without intelligence and end product it's worthless. But most managers would still like a wide player with pace given the option so the fact Routledge has it but can't get in the team tells it's own story. all it says is that for ther talents he has got, we have at least one player for that position who has more. still, hope it means we have a new face coming in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Not even good enough for a team happy with 17th I'm afraid. In your opinion. I, and many others, were more than happy with him at the start of the season, and in the few games I've seen him in the PL under Pardew. true, only the surprising form of barton playing out of his supposed true position kept him out the team, not rank poor performances. Exactly. I'm not pretending he's a brilliant Premiership player, but to blankly say "He's not good enough for the Premiership" is an unfair on the lad. DJ Campbell plays in the Premier League ffs Spurs, Villa and us can't all be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Not even good enough for a team happy with 17th I'm afraid. In your opinion. I, and many others, were more than happy with him at the start of the season, and in the few games I've seen him in the PL under Pardew. true, only the surprising form of barton playing out of his supposed true position kept him out the team, not rank poor performances. Exactly. I'm not pretending he's a brilliant Premiership player, but to blankly say "He's not good enough for the Premiership" is an unfair on the lad. DJ Campbell plays in the Premier League ffs Spurs, Villa and us can't all be wrong. Why did they sign him then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 We could get a player who will compete for a first team place, rather then accept a place on the bench. Can't think we'll find a better player willing to come and be Barton's boot cleaner tbh To me it's daft that Barton or Gosling should be ahead of Routledge in the first place. They are after all central midfielders and neither has got the pace most managers would like out wide. The fact that Routledge couldn't make the right wing spot his own with no genuine competition says a lot about him IMO. A real let down. beckham was neither fast nor a winger, one of the best wide players this countries produced for a long time. maybe gillespie type wingers have had their day and managers want a bit more ? I agree with that. There was a time I used to argue pace was vital out wide but without intelligence and end product it's worthless. But most managers would still like a wide player with pace given the option so the fact Routledge has it but can't get in the team tells it's own story. all it says is that for ther talents he has got, we have at least one player for that position who has more. still, hope it means we have a new face coming in. I see it as he couldn't do the job he was supposed to so we had to play a central midfielder instead - who showed him how it should be done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Not even good enough for a team happy with 17th I'm afraid. In your opinion. I, and many others, were more than happy with him at the start of the season, and in the few games I've seen him in the PL under Pardew. true, only the surprising form of barton playing out of his supposed true position kept him out the team, not rank poor performances. Exactly. I'm not pretending he's a brilliant Premiership player, but to blankly say "He's not good enough for the Premiership" is an unfair on the lad. DJ Campbell plays in the Premier League ffs Spurs, Villa and us can't all be wrong. about ginola ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 We could get a player who will compete for a first team place, rather then accept a place on the bench. Can't think we'll find a better player willing to come and be Barton's boot cleaner tbh To me it's daft that Barton or Gosling should be ahead of Routledge in the first place. They are after all central midfielders and neither has got the pace most managers would like out wide. The fact that Routledge couldn't make the right wing spot his own with no genuine competition says a lot about him IMO. A real let down. beckham was neither fast nor a winger, one of the best wide players this countries produced for a long time. maybe gillespie type wingers have had their day and managers want a bit more ? I agree with that. There was a time I used to argue pace was vital out wide but without intelligence and end product it's worthless. But most managers would still like a wide player with pace given the option so the fact Routledge has it but can't get in the team tells it's own story. all it says is that for ther talents he has got, we have at least one player for that position who has more. still, hope it means we have a new face coming in. I see it as he couldn't do the job he was supposed to so we had to play a central midfielder instead - who showed him how it should be done. i just think that type of winger is too limiting in todays game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Spurs on the back of one good season at Palace in the Premier League - wasn't good enough. Villa signed him as a backup and when he played was useless - wasn't good enough. We signed him to get us back in the Premier League in the hope he might be effective once up, he did nowt on the whole - wasn't good enough. Bet the same happens with QPR when they come up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Spurs on the back of one good season at Palace in the Premier League - wasn't good enough. Villa signed him as a backup and when he played was useless - wasn't good enough. We signed him to get us back in the Premier League in the hope he might be effective once up, he did nowt on the whole - wasn't good enough. Bet the same happens with QPR when they come up. and don't mention fulham where he played ok and they liked him, also done ok at pompey iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I enjoy Nut's enthusiasm for wanting to create teams of a particular theme. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 We could get a player who will compete for a first team place, rather then accept a place on the bench. Can't think we'll find a better player willing to come and be Barton's boot cleaner tbh To me it's daft that Barton or Gosling should be ahead of Routledge in the first place. They are after all central midfielders and neither has got the pace most managers would like out wide. The fact that Routledge couldn't make the right wing spot his own with no genuine competition says a lot about him IMO. A real let down. beckham was neither fast nor a winger, one of the best wide players this countries produced for a long time. maybe gillespie type wingers have had their day and managers want a bit more ? I agree with that. There was a time I used to argue pace was vital out wide but without intelligence and end product it's worthless. But most managers would still like a wide player with pace given the option so the fact Routledge has it but can't get in the team tells it's own story. all it says is that for ther talents he has got, we have at least one player for that position who has more. still, hope it means we have a new face coming in. I see it as he couldn't do the job he was supposed to so we had to play a central midfielder instead - who showed him how it should be done. i just think that type of winger is too limiting in todays game. Unless they can offer genuine end product like Giggs or Malouda (did). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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