This is the Best thread, I've ever been in, dududu dududu

[Mick]

The problem is Ranger hasnt looked enough of an attacking threat, his pace, strength & hold up play are good but he's not taking enough of his chances, i think thats maybe why we signed Best, we needed someone who was proven in this league and can score goals off the bench. 

 

Ranger desperatly needs to go out on loan for a season to a CCC club where he can play 90 mins every week and gain some experience & get some goals which will boost his confidence.

 

Ranger said himself that he was coming on at the end of games with instructions to do what he was doing, he was being told to get the ball and hold onto it and he did that.  He hasn't had the chance to play games and get an understanding with the other players who he plays with and he hasn't had much of a chance to show what he can do as a potential goal scorer.

[Wullie]

Best is only 23. I really can't understand why people are on his back already, after a handful of games.

 

Wasn't he meant to be an impact signing, a players who could get us goals in this division immediately? If things go to plan we've only got three months left in the CCC so how long does he need (considering he's been playing in it all season already?)

 

I wouldn't say I'm on his back, I just think he's a poor player even at this level and it bemuses me why we've signed him.

[Guest michaelfoster]

He hasnt started a game in the championship since the 1-1 with QPR.

 

The rest is carling cup/Fa cup games, the striker in a 4-5-1 or had 30 - 5 mins to make an impact.

 

Its not enough of a basis to say he wouldnt be able to finish

 

I dont think ive explained very well. I was talking about first team starts only

 

He's started 4 league games, 1 FA Cup game & 2 League Cup, hes started more league games than cups combined.

 

He has scored twice in the league both been off the bench i think (in 24 sub appearances), which means in the 4 games he has started he has failed to score.

 

Best has started 2 games and came off the bench 3 times in the league and has yet to score.

 

So basically Ranger has played 4 times and hasnt scored from the starting XI and Best has played twice and hasnt scored from the starting XI.

 

So basically what im saying is dont write Best off yet, and Ranger would not be a a more suitable replacement as IMO the goals would dry up if Lovenkrands & Carroll got injured and we started with Ranger & Ameobi

[TRon]

Best is only 23. I really can't understand why people are on his back already, after a handful of games.

 

Wasn't he meant to be an impact signing, a players who could get us goals in this division immediately? If things go to plan we've only got three months left in the CCC so how long does he need (considering he's been playing in it all season already?)

 

I wouldn't say I'm on his back, I just think he's a poor player even at this level and it bemuses me why we've signed him.

 

The only reason I can think we signed him is that he's good at being a target man rather than scoring goals for fun. Because despite their height, neither Shola or Carroll are much use at holding off defenders and bringing other team mates into play. Probably Ranger is the best with the ball at his feet but he's still learning as well. For what he's cost I'm not too bothered about the Best signing. He's 23 and costing 15k or less. Hardly a disaster signing in the overall scheme of things.

[ChrisMcQuillan]

Best strikes me as a Heskey type player in our current set-up.

[macca888]

He is probably the type of player that needs time to settle in. He has not really had an extended run in the team but if he does, then maybe he will start scoring. He needs a goal for his confidence though. However, having said that, I feel he is 4th in the pecking order behind Carroll, Lovenkrands, Ameobi (when eventually fit) so he is probably more of a squad player than anything else.

[Chris Banaloona]

Looks unfit to me............. carrying a bit

[Yorkie]

Why the fuck did we sign him for three and a half years. Even if he does 'come good' this season and puts away five or six goals - what long term hopes do we have for turgid crap like this guy? If we go up and he's playing for us, urgh.

[Slugsy]

Looks unfit to me............. carrying a bit

 

This, well I hope that's the case, otherwise he looks very slow

[alpal78]

Best is only 23. I really can't understand why people are on his back already, after a handful of games.

 

Wasn't he meant to be an impact signing, a players who could get us goals in this division immediately? If things go to plan we've only got three months left in the CCC so how long does he need (considering he's been playing in it all season already?)

 

I wouldn't say I'm on his back, I just think he's a poor player even at this level and it bemuses me why we've signed him.

 

That's funny Wullie. You've concluded that he is a poor player after a handful of games and that is not getting on his back? When a player comes good, we keep on saying that we need to give players more time, yet when a new player joins us, we forget all that and start the cycle again...amazing!  I suspect that in your case it has more to deal with your zeal of proving that all Ashley's transfer dealings are crap notwithstanding the fact that we sit in 1st place. Don't get me wrong, all of us want better players but given our budget constraint, sometimes a bit more patience is needed.  I say give him another 5 games at least.

[Ashley17]

The contract length is so that he has some re-sale value. If we got him on a short term deal we'd only get peanuts back for him because his contract will be running out. The importance of re-sale value has been made very clear by this regime, for example when Llambias turned up to that fans meeting and explained Keegan wanted to sign Richard Dunne and Sami Hyppia but Ashley knocked them back because they're old and thus have little sell on value.

 

Regardless of all that, his hold up and supprt play is pretty good, but he's not a goal threat. I can barely think of a shot he's had in the games since he's been here, even against Cardiff he ran through 1 on 1 and still failed to shoot.

[Guest Heneage]

Best is only 23. I really can't understand why people are on his back already, after a handful of games.

 

Wasn't he meant to be an impact signing, a players who could get us goals in this division immediately? If things go to plan we've only got three months left in the CCC so how long does he need (considering he's been playing in it all season already?)

 

I wouldn't say I'm on his back, I just think he's a poor player even at this level and it bemuses me why we've signed him.

Mate seriously, he's played like 4 games. Lovenkrands wasn't scoring till he got a steady run now look at him.

[GuyP]

Best is only 23. I really can't understand why people are on his back already, after a handful of games.

 

Wasn't he meant to be an impact signing, a players who could get us goals in this division immediately? If things go to plan we've only got three months left in the CCC so how long does he need (considering he's been playing in it all season already?)

 

I wouldn't say I'm on his back, I just think he's a poor player even at this level and it bemuses me why we've signed him.

Mate seriously, he's played like 4 games. Lovenkrands wasn't scoring till he got a steady run now look at him.

 

 

Didn't he score in like his 2nd game for the club? against West Brom? and im sure his 2nd goal (man utd) wasnt much later...but assuming you mean in championship then fair enough, apart from Loven had extenuating circumstances...which he overcame before being dealt another blow

[Guest Heneage]

Best is only 23. I really can't understand why people are on his back already, after a handful of games.

 

Wasn't he meant to be an impact signing, a players who could get us goals in this division immediately? If things go to plan we've only got three months left in the CCC so how long does he need (considering he's been playing in it all season already?)

 

I wouldn't say I'm on his back, I just think he's a poor player even at this level and it bemuses me why we've signed him.

Mate seriously, he's played like 4 games. Lovenkrands wasn't scoring till he got a steady run now look at him.

 

 

Didn't he score in like his 2nd game for the club? against West Brom? and im sure his 2nd goal (man utd) wasnt much later...but assuming you mean in championship then fair enough

Yeah I mean in the Championship, I don't think he scored till a few games in. It takes time to settle, there was times Saturday you could see Best and Carroll are still learning how each other plays.

[Wullie]

You forget Best has been playing in this division for the last three months without scoring.

[Minhosa]

You forget Best has been playing in this division for the last three months without scoring.

 

It's not even the lack of goals it's his shite positional sense and dreadful movement (or should that be lack of movement) that makes me think he'll be a bad buy.

 

He's shown nothing.

[Guest neesy111]

he was always a panic signing!

[lovejoy]

needs a bit of a chance if you ask me like.

 

sure he's only had 2 starts and 2 sub appearances hasnt he?

 

howay man.

[Minhosa]

he was always a panic signing!

 

I accept that but what I don't get is why sign the guy at all? It's not like we have high expectations these days regarding number of signings or even quality for that matter and most seemed happy with those made during the Jan window before his arrival.

 

It's not like Ashley spends money easily, so why bother?

 

 

[Minhosa]

needs a bit of a chance if you ask me like.

 

sure he's only had 2 starts and 2 sub appearances hasnt he?

 

howay man.

 

I hope he proves me wrong. I've seen nothing in him to suggest he'll contribute when we go up.

[lovejoy]

needs a bit of a chance if you ask me like.

 

sure he's only had 2 starts and 2 sub appearances hasnt he?

 

howay man.

 

I hope he proves me wrong. I've seen nothing in him to suggest he'll contribute when we go up.

 

me neither to be honest.

 

however, i do think that he needs more time than what he has been given.

[Minhosa]

needs a bit of a chance if you ask me like.

 

sure he's only had 2 starts and 2 sub appearances hasnt he?

 

howay man.

 

I hope he proves me wrong. I've seen nothing in him to suggest he'll contribute when we go up.

 

me neither to be honest.

 

however, i do think that he needs more time than what he has been given.

 

Don't disagree - the club are obliged to give him playing time now. Not fair for them to sign the guy and write him off.

 

He may be fortunate in that we'll be promoted with a good few games to spare meaning he can have a pressure free run to sort his confidence out.

 

The downside of that of course is it means Ranger etc have their opportunities limited when it's exactly the time we should be getting them out in front of good crowds, with first teamers in positive atmospheres where the crowd won't give them any stick.

 

Which is why the Best signing makes even less sense.

[Pilko]

May I remind everyone how shit Martins was in his first 5 or 6 appearances? Cacapa also looked like a world beater in his first 5 or 6 appearances too. Give him some time ffs, it's way too early to say for sure if he's up to it.

[Guest Heneage]

You forget Best has been playing in this division for the last three months without scoring.

In a poor side.

[ElDiablo]

Shit. Get rid.