Anderson Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Shane Long would be massively underwhelming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Echo also going with Long story, if Gameiro says no..... http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/football/9065951.Pardew_turning_his_attention_to_Long/ Makes it sound like it's Gameiro or Long. There's just no way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Why? Because he is average. Gameiro is class. Maybe as one of two strikers, but no way he'll be the "replacement" for Gameiro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Why? Because it's like saying "If I can't get a PS3 then I'll just buy a Nintendo Entertainment System". It's ridiculous. There's hundreds of thousands of professional footballers out there, surely we can find someone better that Shane bloody Long. Where's the XBox 360s or even the Nintendo Wiis? Plan B can't really be Shane Long, and if it is we really need to have a word with ourselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Why? Because he is average. Gameiro is class. Maybe as one of two strikers, but no way he'll be the "replacement" for Gameiro. How much Championship football have you watched this season, out of interest? How much Ligue 1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 As if anyone has a clear idea how good either Gameiro or Long would be at this level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 As if anyone has a clear idea how good either Gameiro or Long would be at this level Precisely. I can't see why it's such a silly idea that we would go for Long as a second choice should Gameiro turn us down. If the club thinks he'll score goals and/or increase in value then they'll try for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Why? Because he is average. Gameiro is class. Maybe as one of two strikers, but no way he'll be the "replacement" for Gameiro. How much Championship football have you watched this season, out of interest? How much Ligue 1? I've watched lots and Long is better than given credit for by some on here, whether he makes the step is another matter, exactly the same for Gameiro though, some might say your better to pick Long as he is used to our football, either one of them is still a risk whoever we get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Long has just come off a great season scoring one in two in England and at a guess would cost about half Gameiro would. I'm not denying it wouldn't feel as exciting but I still don't see why the notion is so ridiculous. I think some are getting a bit carried away with the bids we supposedly have in for players at the moment, assuming we're therefore aiming really high. We need to remember where we are at present, and who the owner still is. He doesn't like to take risks when it comes to money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Let's not get carried away about Long's scoring record. He's just had his best season, getting as you say one in 2, but even Shola managed that in the Championship. Not slating Long, but scoring one in 2 at that level isn't necessarily going to improve our squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Shola only made a third of the appearances Long has, but point taken. I'm just looking at it in terms of financial risk. It may be that we've always had our eye on signing Long, but Gameiro seems obtainable so we're having a go. If it fails, we go back to the original plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Neil will be happy to know Everton was one of the other clubs so there's another player he can add to his generic 'linked with Spurs, Newcastle and Everton' list. Have Everton ever had anywhere near €18m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Shola only made a third of the appearances Long has, but point taken. I'm just looking at it in terms of financial risk. Long played 54 games in the Championship last year? Bloody hell, he'll be knackered. But touché with regards to "points taken". Yes Shola played less, but I really can't see Long improving us to the level we want to be at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Maximum of 49. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Why? Because he is average. Gameiro is class. Maybe as one of two strikers, but no way he'll be the "replacement" for Gameiro. How much Championship football have you watched this season, out of interest? How much Ligue 1? Not too much Championship (the play-offs, and obviously quite a few last season ), a lot of Ligue 1. There's really no doubting Gameiro is the better of the two. Well, imo anyway. And oldtype, of course not, but you can say that about any player who haven't played in Premier League. Still people go on about certain players being better than others. It's natural really. One of them have probably done better/equally as good in a better league etc. Another player who btw have scored one in two in a couple of seasons, is Chopra. Ameobi is also one who thrives in the Championship. I would be careful making a player that has had one good season in the Championship, our main striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Shola only made a third of the appearances Long has, but point taken. I'm just looking at it in terms of financial risk. Long played 54 games in the Championship last year? Bloody hell, he'll be knackered. But touché with regards to "points taken". Yes Shola played less, but I really can't see Long improving us to the level we want to be at. 58 appearances in all comps, 28 goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Also whenever some on here read a totally made story, as most transfer stories are complete and utter bullshit its not hard, the over reactions are mental, the only one i believe so far is Cabaye, because his own manager said so......other than that i'm taking none seriously at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Neil will be happy to know Everton was one of the other clubs so there's another player he can add to his generic 'linked with Spurs, Newcastle and Everton' list. Have Everton ever had anywhere near €18m? Fellaini. (£15m) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 How much Championship football have you watched this season, out of interest? How much Ligue 1? Not too much Championship (the play-offs, and obviously quite a few last season ), a lot of Ligue 1. There's really no doubting Gameiro is the better of the two. Well, imo anyway. That really makes no sense to me, but whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Neil will be happy to know Everton was one of the other clubs so there's another player he can add to his generic 'linked with Spurs, Newcastle and Everton' list. Have Everton ever had anywhere near €18m? Fellaini. (£15m) Wasnt that after they sold Lescott though, they had money to spend because they sold ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Also whenever some on here read a totally made story, as most transfer stories are complete and utter bullshit its not hard, the over reactions are mental, the only one i believe so far is Cabaye, because his own manager said so......other than that i'm taking none seriously at all. You know what the only thing more tedious than bullshit transfer stories is? People posting about how they don't care about bullshit transfer stories. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Unless Gameiro can leap like Spud Webb, Long is far better in the air, he is actually very good in the air, a bit like Shearer was for a fella under around 5ft.11/6ft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Also whenever some on here read a totally made story, as most transfer stories are complete and utter bullshit its not hard, the over reactions are mental, the only one i believe so far is Cabaye, because his own manager said so......other than that i'm taking none seriously at all. You know what the only thing more tedious than bullshit transfer stories is? People posting that they don't care about bullshit transfer stories. Why ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Maximum of 49. No shit, Shrelock. Sarcasm not really your strong point, is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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