Yorkie Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 He's right. But it doesn't mean he should ever, ever get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Stop it please. Don't see that I'm doing anything that needs stopping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I'd say Nolan's more a number 8 than a number 9. Give him that if Guthrie leaves and let Tiote have number 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I'd say Nolan's more a number 8 than a number 9. Give him that if Guthrie leaves and let Tiote have number 4. Yeah... or just leave it as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I'd say Nolan's more a number 8 than a number 9. Give him that if Guthrie leaves and let Tiote have number 4. I think that will be a probable outcome if Guthrie is sold this summer, which is likely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Nolan's fav number has always been #4 though. Things are fine as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I'd say Nolan's more a number 8 than a number 9. Give him that if Guthrie leaves and let Tiote have number 4. I think that will be a probable outcome if Guthrie is sold this summer, which is likely It won't be the probable outcome. It isn't that Nolan will just wait for a number to get available. He's been nr 4 for as long as I can remember and he'll keep that number. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Giving Nolan/HBA the no. 9 shirt is just as stupid as when we gave it to Martins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 What was stupid about giving it to Martins? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Fucking hell, what's with the Martins bashing? Yes, he was unbearably shit at times but his goalscoring record here was 39 in 105, which is 1 in 2.6. You can't argue with that figure, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Fucking hell, what's with the Martins bashing? Yes, he was unbearably shit at times but his goalscoring record here was 39 in 105, which is 1 in 2.6. You can't argue with that figure, really. Not to mention some of the rubbish that's worn the number 9 over the years (although admittedly not since squads were introduced). It's not been all Shearers and Milburns. I liked Martins anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Fucking hell, what's with the Martins bashing? Yes, he was unbearably shit at times but his goalscoring record here was 39 in 105, which is 1 in 2.6. You can't argue with that figure, really. I wasnt that bothered about him getting the 9 shirt but his lazy attitude, especially in the relegation season, make me look back on his time with little fondness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Fucking hell, what's with the Martins bashing? Yes, he was unbearably shit at times but his goalscoring record here was 39 in 105, which is 1 in 2.6. You can't argue with that figure, really. Not to mention some of the rubbish that's worn the number 9 over the years (although admittedly not since squads were introduced). It's not been all Shearers and Milburns. I liked Martins anyway. as did I. I've been lambasted for defending the guy on here many a time and I'll continue to defend him tbh. Everyone could see his limitations, everyone knew he was unpredictable, but at the end of the the day he scored goals at a consistent rate in the number nine shirt. Fair play to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 When we brought Martins, he was one of the biggest attacking talents in Europe. So that justified the no 9 jersey. The problem was that he arrived at totally wrong point in time. He was very unstable as a player. Had some terrific displays ( I will never forget his goal away against Tham) but also some matches where he could miss everything. Had he benefited from the wisdom of Sir Bobby we could have molded him into a good player. But instead he served under some of the worst managers known to man. No wonder we didn't manage to realize Martin's potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 To be honest, I dont think any manager would improve Martins as a player. He had his raw ingrediants but refining him was difficult due to his innate stupidity as a footballer. People talk about players having "football brains"- put Oba's in a hazelnut and it would still rattle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 To be honest, I dont think any manager would improve Martins as a player. He had his raw ingrediants but refining him was difficult due to his innate stupidity as a footballer. People talk about players having "football brains"- put Oba's in a hazelnut and it would still rattle. I think he looked at his best for us when he was playing in Keegan's 4-3-3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 To be honest, I dont think any manager would improve Martins as a player. He had his raw ingrediants but refining him was difficult due to his innate stupidity as a footballer. People talk about players having "football brains"- put Oba's in a hazelnut and it would still rattle. I think he looked at his best for us when he was playing in Keegan's 4-3-3. Yeah, he finished that season well. He may well have flourished long term in a more attacking side (like KKs 433) but when we hit the skids in 08/09 and had our backs to the wall, he was the last type of player we needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 To be honest, I dont think any manager would improve Martins as a player. He had his raw ingrediants but refining him was difficult due to his innate stupidity as a footballer. People talk about players having "football brains"- put Oba's in a hazelnut and it would still rattle. I think he looked at his best for us when he was playing in Keegan's 4-3-3. Yeah, he finished that season well. He may well have flourished long term in a more attacking side (like KKs 433) but when we hit the skids in 08/09 and had our backs to the wall, he was the last type of player we needed. That penalty against Arsenal man, what a tit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 What was stupid about giving it to Martins? Because he's as much a no.9 player as Harper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 f***ing hell, what's with the Martins bashing? Yes, he was unbearably s*** at times but his goalscoring record here was 39 in 105, which is 1 in 2.6. You can't argue with that figure, really. He gets stick because he could have been so much better. Give Michael Owen Martins' body and he'd have been the best striker about. He just had nowt upstairs. Will never forgive him for pissing that penalty against Arsenal either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 f***ing hell, what's with the Martins bashing? Yes, he was unbearably s*** at times but his goalscoring record here was 39 in 105, which is 1 in 2.6. You can't argue with that figure, really. Calm the fuck down man. Who was talking about his ability? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 What was stupid about giving it to Martins? Because he's as much a no.9 player as Harper. How's that like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I just dont think he ever appreciated what a desperate situation we were in and was still jogging around without a care in the world as we slipped into the mire. Even his goal v Boro was a lucky shank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I just dont think he ever appreciated what a desperate situation we were in and was still jogging around without a care in the world as we slipped into the mire. Even his goal v Boro was a lucky shank. Tbf, he clearly wasn't fit at the end of that season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 What was stupid about giving it to Martins? Because he's as much a no.9 player as Harper. How's that like? Because I'm a traditionalist. I think the no.9 should be worn by a proper centre forward. I wouldn't give Martins the no.9 just like I wouldn't have given it to Bellamy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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