afar Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 You're right Afar, if someone gave us 22.5 million for Smith i would happily let them do it But you'ld happily accept accept 1p and a packet of superkings for him though wouldn't you ? So that's your threshold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 this is the reason why we are criticised for being deluded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Ranger? $$$$$$$$$$ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 This is not a thread about perceived value of players, I repeat this is not an estimated value of players thread. What kind of bid do you think should be accepted for our current players assuming someone ponies up the lolly? Factor in potential, resale value, off the field issues, squad depth, injury records and the ability to replace the player. Here’s my list: GK Harper – 5 million Krul – 5 million Forster – 5 million Def R.Taylor – 1 million Simpson – 2 million Enrique – 20 million S Taylor – 10 Million Coloccini – 15 million Williamson - 5 million Kadar – 5 million Mid Barton – 2 million Smith – 1 million Guthrie – 8 million Jonas – 20 million Routledge – 6 million Nolan – 4 million Fwd Shola – 1 million Loven – 1 million Best – 1 million Carroll – 8 million I'll give it a shot just to get the thread going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 This is not a thread about perceived value of players, I repeat this is not an estimated value of players thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristov Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 GK Harper – 3 million Krul – 4 million Forster – 3 million Def R.Taylor – 2 million Simpson – 3 million Enrique – 6 million S Taylor – 8 Million Collocini – 8 million Williamson - 5 million Kadar –4 million Mid Barton – 5 million Smith – 2 million Guthrie – 6 million Jonas – 6 million Routledge – 4 million Nolan – 5 million Fwd Shola – 3 million Loven – 3 million Best – 1 million Carroll – 5 million just my thoughts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 It's quite surprising how much more highly people rate Jonas over Routledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I'd let Best go for £400k tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 This is not a thread about perceived value of players, I repeat this is not an estimated value of players thread. Surely you should be putting the minimum values you would accept though right? You would have saved 2 pages of pisstaking if you had simply thought about this first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Routledge 10 million Forster 10 million Carroll - 20 million NOT PLAYER ESTIMATES FFS !! Routledge's probably been our best player over the second half of the season, not that many natural right wingers out there, he's English, has fit in well with the team, question marks on whether he can do it at level, but he's not a player that we could easily replace. Hence 10 million, snatch someone's hands off, 7 million we have to think about it. Forster has come on leaps and bounds, if you've seen some of his performances for Norwich this season, he's been excellent. I watched the highlights of the Charlton game the other day, the lad was awesome, could have been about 5 - 1 loss rather than a 1-0 win. There are a few teams rumoured to be looking at him. He's English, still very young, seems like a good character, we are in no rush to sell him. 10 Million though would be a no brainer, 5 million probably would have you thinking too. Carroll, there would be more than one bidder for Carrol at 10 million without a doubt, Chopra cost Sunderland 5 million a few years back and does not have a fraction of the potential Carrol has nor does he have the physical size that a lot of teams look for to compliment smaller strikers. There's a buzz in the game about this kid, even the england manager is keeping an eye on him for the future. Compare him to Milner, we got 12 million for a player that showed very limited potential, Carroll shows much more and plays up front. 20 Million is no brainer for me, 15 million has you thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 It's quite surprising how much more highly people rate Jonas over Routledge. Well, he has more of a name given he's in the Argentine squad so he would sell for more. Won't comment on some of the values people are suggesting there... José Enrique the most expensive LB in the world... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Well this is a stupid thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I thought a players value is the price somebody is willing to pay, and seller is willing to let go for. So what you are saying is that you wouldn't sell Carroll for anything less than £20m? Instead of making my own list, you can just look at your numbers and divide it by 2. You are crazy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 For the love of Christ, just delete that first post. We're just starting to get away from the 'deluded' label, this could revive the whole thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 This is not a thread about perceived value of players, I repeat this is not an estimated value of players thread. Surely you should be putting the minimum values you would accept though right? You would have saved 2 pages of pisstaking if you had simply thought about this first I'm used to the pisstaking tbh, doesn't bother me, people never read though. I purposely didn't want to put up a value of players type thread, just thresholds that would be no brainers to accept, some are a little high, but I purposely did that to stimulate debate and also point out that those are players I would be most reluctant to let go of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 For the love of Christ, just delete that first post. We're just starting to get away from the 'deluded' label, this could revive the whole thing. OK explain to me clearly how this is deluded, read the first line, THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT PLAYER VALUES. Thresholds of where it becomes silly money is more accurate a discription. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 For the love of Christ, just delete that first post. We're just starting to get away from the 'deluded' label, this could revive the whole thing. OK explain to me clearly how this is deluded, read the first line, THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT PLAYER VALUES. Thresholds of where it becomes silly money is more accurate a discription. Surely it is a post about player values, if you are setting a price on a player. Just because the prices are laughable doesn't mean owt. It is the value you place on the player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 It's quite surprising how much more highly people rate Jonas over Routledge. Well, he has more of a name given he's in the Argentine squad so he would sell for more. Won't comment on some of the values people are suggesting there... José Enrique the most expensive LB in the world... But this is about what price we would sell for rather than what we think others would pay, I would have thought their values to us would be closer, Routledge possibly even edging it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 This is not a thread about perceived value of players, I repeat this is not an estimated value of players thread. Surely you should be putting the minimum values you would accept though right? You would have saved 2 pages of pisstaking if you had simply thought about this first I'm used to the pisstaking tbh, doesn't bother me, people never read though. I purposely didn't want to put up a value of players type thread, just thresholds that would be no brainers to accept, some are a little high, but I purposely did that to stimulate debate and also point out that those are players I would be most reluctant to let go of. A little? Lets get this straight. You start a thread asking what amount should be accepted assuming somebody bids for them(because we were fighting off huge bids all last summer), insert umpteen shocking values and then declare you dont want it to be about values? A threashold for most of our players would be at least half what you have, more in others. You should learn from the pisstaking mate, not fuel it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I thought a players value is the price somebody is willing to pay, and seller is willing to let go for. So what you are saying is that you wouldn't sell Carroll for anything less than £20m? Instead of making my own list, you can just look at your numbers and divide it by 2. You are crazy OK this is my last attempt at explaining this, clearly my thought process is not in line with the majority of you here. The opening few sentences explain things, not a list of values, not even a list of how much you would take for a player, it's a list of thresholds of how much you would consider as silly money to accept for a player. If you don't understand the difference in those terms, then I give up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Thats right, everyone else is stupid here. Shame on us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Wilkinson, being one of our best ever players, should never be sold. keeps the players chins nice and smooth, i agree Rumours that the blades want him back though. Very good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 It's quite surprising how much more highly people rate Jonas over Routledge. Well, he has more of a name given he's in the Argentine squad so he would sell for more. Won't comment on some of the values people are suggesting there... José Enrique the most expensive LB in the world... But this is about what price we would sell for rather than what we think others would pay, I would have thought their values to us would be closer, Routledge possibly even edging it. I don't see that much difference. You'd get better offers from Jonás, particularly in a World Cup year, so not holding out for more would be stupid irregardless of how both players contribute to your squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 GK Harper – 1.5 million Krul – 4 million Forster – 3 million Def R.Taylor – 1.5 million Simpson – 1.5 million Enrique – 10 million S Taylor – 8 Million Collocini – 5 million Williamson - 3.5 million Kadar –3.5 million Mid Barton – 4 million Smith – 1.5 million Guthrie – 6 million Jonas – 10 million Routledge – 3.5 million Nolan – 3 million Fwd Shola – 1.5 million Loven – 1.5 million Best – 1 million Carroll – 5 million Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 It's quite surprising how much more highly people rate Jonas over Routledge. Well, he has more of a name given he's in the Argentine squad so he would sell for more. Won't comment on some of the values people are suggesting there... José Enrique the most expensive LB in the world... But this is about what price we would sell for rather than what we think others would pay, I would have thought their values to us would be closer, Routledge possibly even edging it. I don't see that much difference. You'd get better offers from Jonás, particularly in a World Cup year, so not holding out for more would be stupid irregardless of how both players contribute to your squad. It's not about what offers we would get, it's about what we would be willing to let them go for so should surely be based on how we rate/how important we think they are to the them rather than any outside factor like how big a name they are etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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