Revolution Number 9 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 The Greece of the Champions League. Well done. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 The Greece of the Champions League. Well done. European Champions. It's great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 VI, come sort Wacko out will you? And you're probably the weakest team to win that competition since it became the Champions League. How a side with Dudek, Riise, Traore, Finnan, Smicer, Kewell, Baros, Pongolle, etc. won that is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 The champions league is flawed in the fact it allows teams to be considered European Champions when they might not have won a title in there own league. I'd still prefer old european cup knockout system but would never ever be allowed again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 The champions league is flawed in the fact it allows teams to be considered European Champions when they might not have won a title in there own league. I'd still prefer old european cup knockout system but would never ever be allowed again. Problem with that is, the UEFA Cup would then become the stronger competition because while Man U, Barca, Milan, etc. played in the Champions League, Arsenal, Chelsea, Real Madrid, Valencia, Inter, Roma, etc. would be in the UEFA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Liverpool weren't even the best team in Liverpool when they won the fucking thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I was thinking the other night whether it would be a reasonable idea to prevent teams who qualified for Europe from entering the League Cup. Would free up a bit of the schedule, increase the chances of smaller clubs winning it (and getting into the UEFA Cup and progressing from there) and reduce the number of virtual reserve teams taking part. Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Liverpool weren't even the best team in Liverpool when they on the f***ing thing. Football must have taken a gap-year that 12 month period for Greece & Liverpool to hold the continental titles. Definitely a freak period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I was thinking the other night whether it would be a reasonable idea to prevent teams who qualified for Europe from entering the League Cup. Would free up a bit of the schedule, increase the chances of smaller clubs winning it (and getting into the UEFA Cup and progressing from there) and reduce the number of virtual reserve teams taking part. Thoughts? I like the idea, but would take a bit of the prestige away if we won it with no big clubs in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I was thinking the other night whether it would be a reasonable idea to prevent teams who qualified for Europe from entering the League Cup. Would free up a bit of the schedule, increase the chances of smaller clubs winning it (and getting into the UEFA Cup and progressing from there) and reduce the number of virtual reserve teams taking part. Thoughts? I like the idea, but would take a bit of the prestige away if we won it with no big clubs in it. They generally treat it with disdain anyway though, and hardly anyone describes it as prestigious now. Also, it could have a positive effect on the FA Cup as the only domestic cup they'd be in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I was thinking the other night whether it would be a reasonable idea to prevent teams who qualified for Europe from entering the League Cup. Would free up a bit of the schedule, increase the chances of smaller clubs winning it (and getting into the UEFA Cup and progressing from there) and reduce the number of virtual reserve teams taking part. Thoughts? Totally agree. Often mulled that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I was thinking the other night whether it would be a reasonable idea to prevent teams who qualified for Europe from entering the League Cup. Would free up a bit of the schedule, increase the chances of smaller clubs winning it (and getting into the UEFA Cup and progressing from there) and reduce the number of virtual reserve teams taking part. Thoughts? I like the idea, but would take a bit of the prestige away if we won it with no big clubs in it. That is my concern. Could you then class it as a major trophy then ala Anglo-Italian cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I was thinking the other night whether it would be a reasonable idea to prevent teams who qualified for Europe from entering the League Cup. Would free up a bit of the schedule, increase the chances of smaller clubs winning it (and getting into the UEFA Cup and progressing from there) and reduce the number of virtual reserve teams taking part. Thoughts? I like the idea, but would take a bit of the prestige away if we won it with no big clubs in it. They generally treat it with disdain anyway though, and hardly anyone describes it as prestigious now. Also, it could have a positive effect on the FA Cup as the only domestic cup they'd be in. The FA Cup is generally still won by one of the top 4 clubs though apart from the occasional year anyway, and the Carling Cup is increasing in importance as well over the past 5 years. Birmingham beat 2 sides who'd qualified for Europe on the way to winning it this season, might as well just leave it. I'm sure if we'd played a full strength side against Arsenal we'd have stood a chance of winning so our own choice that we didn't get through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 The Carling Cup is there to be won for clubs like ours. We just haven't been good enough or brave enought to make a decent fist of it in recent years. It's mostly down to management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I was thinking the other night whether it would be a reasonable idea to prevent teams who qualified for Europe from entering the League Cup. Would free up a bit of the schedule, increase the chances of smaller clubs winning it (and getting into the UEFA Cup and progressing from there) and reduce the number of virtual reserve teams taking part. Thoughts? Would that mean that the winners of the competition wouldn't be allowed to defend it the following season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 The Carling Cup is there to be won for clubs like ours. We just haven't been good enough or brave enought to make a decent fist of it in recent years. It's mostly down to management. Tbf, quite a few on here didn't even want us to have a go of it in both cups. Which is totally wrong imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I was thinking the other night whether it would be a reasonable idea to prevent teams who qualified for Europe from entering the League Cup. Would free up a bit of the schedule, increase the chances of smaller clubs winning it (and getting into the UEFA Cup and progressing from there) and reduce the number of virtual reserve teams taking part. Thoughts? Would that mean that the winners of the competition wouldn't be allowed to defend it the following season? Suppose so. Variety FTW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 The Carling Cup is there to be won for clubs like ours. We just haven't been good enough or brave enought to make a decent fist of it in recent years. It's mostly down to management. Tbf, quite a few on here didn't even want us to have a go of it in both cups. Which is totally wrong imo. Totally wrong? As a newly-promoted side our priority is staying up. Next season however, we should try and win it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Getting back to the thread in question and I think it's the only time I want sunderland to win a match this season tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 VI, come sort Wacko out will you? And you're probably the weakest team to win that competition since it became the Champions League. How a side with Dudek, Riise, Traore, Finnan, Smicer, Kewell, Baros, Pongolle, etc. won that is ridiculous. Which makes the achievement even greater. If the sides we beat were so much "better", why didn't they beat us? Were you disgusted that Porto and Monaco beat Real and Man Utd to reach the 2004 final, or just in 2005 because it was Liverpool? The champions league is flawed in the fact it allows teams to be considered European Champions when they might not have won a title in there own league. I'd still prefer old european cup knockout system but would never ever be allowed again. Because everyone would rather watch Total Network Solutions and Young Boys Bern than Real Madrid and Arsenal. Fair enough if you think the CL/EC should only be for league champions, but let's not pretend the current format doesn't contain much better sides than the old one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Who are Braga anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 We got pretty fair in the Champions League with a lot of average players too, TBF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 To those suggesting we "had a go" at the cups this season - you did see the fit players remaining on the pitch at the end of the Everton game, right?? The only mistake we did make in the cups was trying to salvage something against Stevenage by throwing Tiote on as a sub and losing Tiote for the next three games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 To those suggesting we "had a go" at the cups this season - you did see the fit players remaining on the pitch at the end of the Everton game, right?? The only mistake we did make in the cups was trying to salvage something against Stevenage by throwing Tiote on as a sub and losing Tiote for the next three games. It was bad. And so it probably couldn't have been any worse if we'd given it a go in the cups - what's your point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Not this again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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