Parky Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Players thrown together on a whimsy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 They really have entrusted Dogleash with a frightening amount of cash. But when i look at their squad, there's so little that really frightens me. I'd forgotten/never noticed that they finished runners-up the year we went down. I know the league has changed, what with that brand new Arab club gaining entrance to the league, but the Scousers look lightyears away from even challenging for runners-up. Alonso Mascherano Gerrard Torres That was what made them the team they were. 3 of them gone, the other is never fit and probably finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 But it's all Commoli's fault! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Don't see the point of Comolli. What does he do? Scour the British Isles for purple patches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 He's hardly sniffing out great deals is this Comolli. He simply seems to hunt out British players and throw ridiculous money at them. As a previous poster said, these days, there's very little in a Liverpool side that frightens me. Other of course, than the thought of hearing Jamie Carragher talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Don't see the point of Comolli. What does he do? Scour the British Isles for purple patches? He's been busy with the Greek debt...He's transferring it to Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Outside of his work boosting the North East economy he's been on the sniff for prospects. Coates is one and Pelosi an American lad is one they've just signed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Certainly doesn't drive a hard bargain does he. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 He's hardly sniffing out great deals is this Comolli. He simply seems to hunt out British players and throw ridiculous money at them. As a previous poster said, these days, there's very little in a Liverpool side that frightens me. Other of course, than the thought of hearing Jamie Carragher talk. Almost sure that Dalglish has some input in transfers too. I imagine Kenny has to approve suggestions by Commoli before anything happens. So it's quite annoying that Liverpool fans are quick to blame Commoli for any sort of flops even though Dalglish should probably share some of the blame like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 It doesn't work in theory either, unless you play him on the right. Downing cuts inside all the time, he's a glory seeker and would rather take the shot on, leaving the gap between him and Carroll when playing on the left hardly big enough for a decent pass never mind a cross. Better distance if Carroll was the right forward or downing the right winger with Carroll in his normal position, but Suarez likes that right spot and henderson is too shit to play anywhere else but the right wing. Downing needs to change his game to help out Carroll, but I doubt he will, I doubt even KD even sees this problem. Also, Henderson when in that spot needs to release the ball early in the air for Carroll to attack, like Barton used to, but unlike Barton, Henderson fancies himself as a bit of a winger, bit of a player who'll run with the ball and try to advance, and when he does finally put a ball in the entire defence is facing the right way to deal with carroll moving with pace, enough to get the jump on him and either nullify or disrupt Carrolls arial ability. Flatfooted defended with the early ball, that's what Carroll is all about, Liverpool don't have a player to provide him with it, apart from gerrard who'll spit his dummy if you put him on the right wing if he ever gets fit again. Nice points. It's a flawed system without a doubt, but even if in principle it worked it's never a gameplan that would get them anywhere. Downing's a dependable player and can whip a canny ball in but really is a fairly limited player. The game has moved on from a wide man crossing in towards the big man. They've spent that £55 million on a tactic that is just not going to get them where they want to be with that money. Compare them to City (now I know this is discounting wages) but you look at the linkup between Silva and Aguero who cost around the same and it's on another planet. Their play is so much more dynamic, varied, incisive and free-flowing. The only Liverpool player who could fit into that City front line and not look out of place is Suarez. Before PhilB marches in and tells me Liverpool couldn't attract those two, they are just an example. There's numerous other players better than Downing and Carroll they could have signed and for less money too. Infact, they actually looked a better side LAST year when they had Meireles, Maxi Rodriguez and Kuyt in there. There's absolutely no balance to the squad, nothing that really shines centrally either to take the pressure off the wingers and the aerial threat Carroll should bring. A shambles of a central defence due to injury, only really kept together by Reina, while apart from getting lucky with Jose, their team just doesn't work for me in any department. Their spine won them the CL along with other victories and good standing, but it's been ripped out, not replaced properly and messed about with too much, to hold any kind of respect anymore. Losing Gerrard through injury and old age while selling Alonso and mascherano is a huge blow to them which they'll not get over, certainly not by trying to erase the initial mistake of losing two of them and replacing them inadequately by trying to change their entire formation and philosophy by now playing down the wings to fit players with totally different styles that they are used to. It may have worked if they had the usual solid base of defenders to keep steady and evolve, but they don't, so from facelift to facelift it gets worse, nobody knows exactly wtf it's supposed to look like. It tickles me to say the least, as it is the shit we've had to put up with for years changing from manager to manager, style and philosophy, reactionary shite from the board throwing tens of millions down the drain only to be worse of squad wise by the end of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 # 2006 - 2011 Purchased Gross Sold Nett Per Season 1 Manchester City £537,670,000 £100,550,000 £437,120,000 £87,424,000 2 Chelsea £267,100,000 £122,200,000 £144,900,000 £28,980,000 3 Liverpool £309,540,000 £225,530,000 £84,010,000 £16,802,000 4 Tottenham £238,300,000 £162,100,000 £76,200,000 £15,240,000 5 Aston Villa £168,550,000 £100,400,000 £68,150,000 £13,630,000 6 Sunderland £146,900,000 £84,225,000 £62,675,000 £12,535,000 7 Stoke City £72,725,000 £11,520,000 £61,205,000 £12,241,000 8 Manchester United £217,200,000 £160,350,000 £56,850,000 £11,370,000 9 Fulham £76,975,000 £30,075,000 £46,900,000 £9,380,000 10 Bolton £73,150,000 £34,150,000 £39,000,000 £7,800,000 **Our net spend is 29m+ (ie profit on transfers) over that period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Aston Villa! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Aston Villa! At least they've got a decent team. Look at Stoke's spending compared to their players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 One of their fans had a blog with big numbers last season for chances created from Downing, Henderson, and Adam. Of course it didn't go into detail and those were in other teams with other players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Always thought Liverpool's spending was a bit slapdash and obviously quite wasteful with regards to fees. They spent a fortune without really creating a balanced team. They might still do well, but I'd love to see them struggle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 http://www.vg.no/sport/fotball/ligaer/tyskland/artikkel.php?artid=10015550 Suarez. Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Seems like ever since I said on here that Downing was one of the most improved players in the league that he's completely reverted to type, too. Been pretty poor so far this season. £20m 0 goals 0 assists Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 http://www.vg.no/sport/fotball/ligaer/tyskland/artikkel.php?artid=10015550 Suarez. Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 He's hardly sniffing out great deals is this Comolli. He simply seems to hunt out British players and throw ridiculous money at them. As a previous poster said, these days, there's very little in a Liverpool side that frightens me. Other of course, than the thought of hearing Jamie Carragher talk. Almost sure that Dalglish has some input in transfers too. I imagine Kenny has to approve suggestions by Commoli before anything happens. So it's quite annoying that Liverpool fans are quick to blame Commoli for any sort of flops even though Dalglish should probably share some of the blame like. My brother (who is a liverpool fan) pointed out this week that since kenny was appointed their squad is much less cosmopolitan with Glen Johnson being their only black first team player. I've heard a few stories about dogleash and tbh, i'm not too surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 These Carroll 'comments' have in a strange way put more pressure on KD. Although they are ridiculous I notice on Liv forums today a lot of anxiety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2011/suarez-161111 oh dear! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=283049.40 What a bunch of pricks man. Despicable human beings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Amazing news. Cannot wait for Dalglish's response Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 "Lad needs protection" etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukeboxromeo Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Andy Carroll must be loving this news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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