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Ok then.

 

Steve- I think the last 2 seasons/4 windows we have a net spend of zero.

 

e.g. when Fellaini signed for £15m we had to sell Johnson for £9m and McFadden for £6m first. When we signed Bily, Heitinga and Distin last summer we'd got more than the total outlay for Lescott. I think Moyes net spend in his 7 years works out at something like £4m a season.

 

Debt levels are £40-odd million iirc. Was about £20m when Kenwright took over.

What about the 12 million you spent on Yakuba, 6 million on Baines, 4 million on Jagielka and 6 million on Arteta?

 

I know Moyes does a reasonable job budget wise but you have conveniently forgotten abpout some of your other major acquisitions here.

 

I haven't forgotten any signings.  :rolleyes:

 

As I said, his net spend works out at £4m per season over his entire reign. Oh, and Arteta was £3m iirc not £6m.

 

Man, that's such a bargain.

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Can't see why. He's a young player coming off a major injury.

 

You are more level headed than most. Personally I'm not going to judge until 2011/2012 as I think circumstances will make him be seen as a huge flop this season on the terraces which will be unfair on a player who obviously has qualities.

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might have been posted already but apparently dan gosling was rather upset by the lack of contract offer

http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/news/2010/07/25/everton-superkid-dan-gosling-wept-over-snub-by-david-moyes-102039-22437128/

 

Not back to football until January 2011 says agent.

 

Write off for the whole season then

 

Sweeping conclusion. Why?

 

Based on how long it takes players with long term injuries to regain form.

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might have been posted already but apparently dan gosling was rather upset by the lack of contract offer

http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/news/2010/07/25/everton-superkid-dan-gosling-wept-over-snub-by-david-moyes-102039-22437128/

 

Not back to football until January 2011 says agent.

 

Write off for the whole season then

 

Sweeping conclusion. Why?

 

Every one of his posts on Gosling say the same, tiresome.

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http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2010/07/27/club-statement

Tuesday 27 July 2010, 16:50

by Matthew Gamble

 

In the wake of a report in a Sunday newspaper in which the agent of Dan Gosling made a series of allegations, Everton Football Club has decided to take the unprecedented step of setting straight a record of recent events which has, in its opinion, been deliberately distorted.

 

In the article, Mr David Hodgson suggested that not only did this Club not wish to extend Mr Gosling's stay at Goodison Park but that it had been deliberately tardy with regard to the formal offer of a new contract, presuming that an injury sustained by the player during the course of last season was of such a serious nature it would prevent him from signing for another club.

 

Both claims are ludicrous, totally without substance and grossly misleading.

 

The manager of Everton, David Moyes, and the Chairman, Bill Kenwright, contacted Mr Hodgson in November of last year to jointly offer Dan Gosling a new contract.

 

Several subsequent conversations took place during the course of which Mr Hodgson not only indicated that the deal offered would be "fine" but also reaffirmed that a "hand-shake agreement" was in place dating back to when Mr Gosling joined the Club as a 17-year-old in January 2008. It was Everton's understanding that this Gentleman's agreement would guarantee that the player would extend, by at least two years, the three-year deal he signed upon his arrival from Plymouth Argyle.

 

"In the very long history of our Club, our executive team have never once forgotten or neglected to deal properly and professionally with contractual matters," said Mr Kenwright. "We place our trust in people; we always keep our side of any offered deal - and all we have ever asked is that others do the same."

 

Everton's CEO, Robert Elstone, confirmed that the Club had wished to extend Mr Gosling's stay on Merseyside.

 

"We wanted Dan Gosling to stay with us - and, after what we had been told, we expected him to stay with us. However, in the first week in June, Mr Hodgson rang David Moyes seemingly content that he had manoeuvred a situation where Dan was a free agent," he said.

 

Mr Moyes confirmed that he had spoken - on several occasions - to both player and agent in relation to Mr Gosling's progress and future.

 

"Dan came to see me and told me that he saw himself as a central midfield player rather than someone who operated in a wide position," he said. "I did not think at that point that he would get into the Everton team as a central midfield player.

 

"I was always fully aware of the handshake agreement which Dave Hodgson had with a senior Club official regarding Dan's fourth and fifth years - and because of that agreement there wasn't, in my opinion, any necessity to put anything in writing. The first I knew of a problem was when Dave rang me to say that Dan's contract had lapsed and that he would be seeking to leave us on a free transfer.

 

"I told Dave that he had an agreement with the Club which he was now reneging on. We scouted Dan Gosling and brought him in when several other Premier League clubs looked but did not purchase.

 

"We feel aggrieved that they have contrived a situation to get the player out of the Club when, if he had come and said that he wanted to leave, we could at least have done something about it - but at no point did Dan say he wished to leave.

 

"I read at the weekend that he cried when he didn't receive a formal, written offer. Well, trust me, the money Everton were offering was certainly not a crying matter," he added.

 

The Premier League tribunal found that as Everton had relied upon both a verbal and a Gentleman's agreement and had not put a contractual offer in written form before the acknowledged deadline, Mr Gosling was entitled to leave the Club on a free transfer.

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What have we learned? That agents are dodgy, slippery bastards.

 

Everton were stupid to let this happen regardless.

 

I think that Everton have learned that verbal agreements aren't worth the paper they're written on.

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I think that Everton have learned that verbal agreements aren't worth the paper they're written on.

 

You have just blown my mind

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