Guest kingdawson Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I can see both sides to the argument. It wasn't really intentional or with any malice, but you can't swing an elbow into a defender's face like that or you'll get sent off. Even with your bias kd, you can see that? Watch the incident again. There was no swing of the elbow. He was looking 100% at the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Are his eyes on his elbows? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Bale is being bitched He's been abysmal. Villa's rb has owned him so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I can see both sides to the argument. It wasn't really intentional or with any malice, but you can't swing an elbow into a defender's face like that or you'll get sent off. Even with your bias kd, you can see that? Watch the incident again. There was no swing of the elbow. He was looking 100% at the ball. His elbow hit the face of the defender. Whether he was looking at the ball or at the sky, his elbow still hit the defender. Whether you agree with it or not, whether it's right or not, 9 times outta 10 it = sending off. If you don't do it, you don't run the risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Are his eyes on his elbows? Wow. ummm how about you actually watch the replay first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Are his eyes on his elbows? Wow. ummm how about you actually watch the replay first. NOBODY IS SAYING HE DID IT ON PURPOSE. But you can't deny that he did it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I can see both sides to the argument. It wasn't really intentional or with any malice, but you can't swing an elbow into a defender's face like that or you'll get sent off. Even with your bias kd, you can see that? I used to be a centre-back, and I hated centre-forwards who did that, but you could also argue that Albrighton can't go studs up into a player's ankle when the ball has gone or you'll get sent off. He got off scot-free, Defoe got sent off. I just hate when players get sent off early in games for something that's debatable. Obviously I'm biased, but so's that bloody lino. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 having seen the incident not a red if you ask me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 f***ing ref, bloody hell, wake up. Tbf it was the pervert linesman who gave the decision. He also claimed the ball went out when Kaboul scored which it didn't. Don't think there's anyway you can say the ball didn't go out, nor can you say it definitely went out. No evidence to either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I can see both sides to the argument. It wasn't really intentional or with any malice, but you can't swing an elbow into a defender's face like that or you'll get sent off. Even with your bias kd, you can see that? Watch the incident again. There was no swing of the elbow. He was looking 100% at the ball. His elbow hit the face of the defender. Whether he was looking at the ball or at the sky, his elbow still hit the defender. Whether you agree with it or not, whether it's right or not, 9 times outta 10 it = sending off. If you don't do it, you don't run the risk. Ummm yeah never have i once seen a player jump for the ball without using his arms. So you're proposing players jump with there arms down? i'll remember that when Carroll makes his next aerial challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 f***ing ref, bloody hell, wake up. Tbf it was the pervert linesman who gave the decision. He also claimed the ball went out when Kaboul scored which it didn't. Don't think there's anyway you can say the ball didn't go out, nor can you say it definitely went out. No evidence to either. Agreed. So it's a goal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I can see both sides to the argument. It wasn't really intentional or with any malice, but you can't swing an elbow into a defender's face like that or you'll get sent off. Even with your bias kd, you can see that? Watch the incident again. There was no swing of the elbow. He was looking 100% at the ball. His elbow hit the face of the defender. Whether he was looking at the ball or at the sky, his elbow still hit the defender. Whether you agree with it or not, whether it's right or not, 9 times outta 10 it = sending off. If you don't do it, you don't run the risk. Ummm yeah never have i once seen a player jump for the ball without using his arms. So you're proposing players jump with there arms down? i'll remember that when Carroll makes his next aerial challenge. Can't remember where I said that players should jump with their arms down? You must be imagining it. A player can jump without throwing his elbow into the face of a defender - strikers do it all the time. He did it, he got sent off. Stop acting as if it's some sort of injustice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Thought it was a harsh booking, but I thought it was a pen too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I can see both sides to the argument. It wasn't really intentional or with any malice, but you can't swing an elbow into a defender's face like that or you'll get sent off. Even with your bias kd, you can see that? Watch the incident again. There was no swing of the elbow. He was looking 100% at the ball. His elbow hit the face of the defender. Whether he was looking at the ball or at the sky, his elbow still hit the defender. Whether you agree with it or not, whether it's right or not, 9 times outta 10 it = sending off. If you don't do it, you don't run the risk. Ummm yeah never have i once seen a player jump for the ball without using his arms. So you're proposing players jump with there arms down? i'll remember that when Carroll makes his next aerial challenge. Can't remember where I said that players should jump with their arms down? You must be imagining it. A player can jump without throwing his elbow into the face of a defender - strikers do it all the time. He did it, he got sent off. Stop acting as if it's some sort of injustice. Wow you're weird. There was no throwing the elbow. That's what i'm debating. If you see him "throwing the elbow" then you're clearly seeing something other then the Defoe challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I can see both sides to the argument. It wasn't really intentional or with any malice, but you can't swing an elbow into a defender's face like that or you'll get sent off. Even with your bias kd, you can see that? Watch the incident again. There was no swing of the elbow. He was looking 100% at the ball. His elbow hit the face of the defender. Whether he was looking at the ball or at the sky, his elbow still hit the defender. Whether you agree with it or not, whether it's right or not, 9 times outta 10 it = sending off. If you don't do it, you don't run the risk. Ummm yeah never have i once seen a player jump for the ball without using his arms. So you're proposing players jump with there arms down? i'll remember that when Carroll makes his next aerial challenge. Can't remember where I said that players should jump with their arms down? You must be imagining it. A player can jump without throwing his elbow into the face of a defender - strikers do it all the time. He did it, he got sent off. Stop acting as if it's some sort of injustice. Wow you're weird. There was no throwing the elbow. That's what i'm debating. If you see him "throwing the elbow" then you're clearly seeing something other then the Defoe challenge. Did his elbow hit the face of the defender? Or am I seeing things again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 btw his forearm hit Collins not the elbow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Right lads listen. Defoe jumped using his arms for leverage, accidentally his forearm caught Collins and he was sent off. Harsh but we've seen them given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 The keyword is intent,if Defoe intended to elbow Collins without once checking where he was makes him some kind of psychic. Never a red,complete accident imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 text book counter attack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Smart football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 The keyword is intent,if Defoe intended to elbow Collins without once checking where he was makes him some kind of psychic. Never a red,complete accident imo. Even speaking as a Spurs fan, I don't like people going up with an elbow then pleading lack of intent. If you go up with an elbow then there's a good chance you'll injure someone. The only problem I have is with the ref's interpretation today. You have a word about being reckless, then book the player, just as he should have done with Albrighton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 That is absolutely fantastic. Goal of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Tottenham are good. Villa are shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 lovely goal...... i don't suppose villa would care to inflict minor knocks to keep bale and vdv out of tues....................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Thank god we didn't get cuellar - abysmal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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