oldtype Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 So, to summarize the situation and make us all suicidally miserable... He's played his last game for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 This is it - as we found out in the 1980's, keep on selling your best players and you are headed only in one direction and it's not up! Of course, eventually you have to take a Spurs-esque stance (with Modric) but I don't ever see that happening under this owner. The price tag before the team every single time. I don't think spurs ever received that kind of offer that was in the bracket of Carroll for £35m for modric or bale. They'd have to have a £50m cash upfront offer on the table to be anywhere near that kind of madness, and if they did I think they'd accept. Every player has his price, as cronaldo showed, were no different, it would just be nice to have absolute faith in the powers that be to invest the lot back in to the first team and keep rebuilding, that's the real issue here. Spurs recieved an offer of £40m representing a £23m profit. Still good money in anyones book. They sold Carrick and Berba for big money but seem to have taken a stance with Modric with Redknapp quoted again today saying don't bother making any offers for him in Jan as he's not going anywhere. I believe him as he seems to have some degree of influence at Spurs. Pardew will never have this ability at NUFC which is a shame. And that marks the difference between us and those sides above us and is why we'll never consistenly progress above mid table under Ashley - because he's not prepared to invest beyond the minimum nor reject offers for the good of the team. Of course every player has his price, but every player doesn't have to be running around with a price tag on his back, effectively advertised for sale. That's where we are now imho - there's not an offer for any player that would go without response. It really is rinse and repeat stuff under Ashley - buy a player cheap through either good scouting or good fortune (contract situations, break clauses etc) give them a season and then sell for a profit - great for the bank balance not so good if you wish to see sustainable improvement over the long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Reckon we will hold out for over £30m, and for that price we have to say goodbye really. All the talk this time last year in the papers was Carroll for £20m, by the end it got to a price we couldn't turn down. Plus it also releases 5 years of Tiotes contract which was paid for apparently by Carroll. Carr & co will have his replacements earmarked already, who knows, they could be better ala Ba. Very optimistic. Although, his price is going to be ridiculous considering the fact that his contract is up in 2017. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wally_McFool Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 £20m profit in one and half seasons though. Yeeaahh great innit. We can all sit on the computer and look at a nice picture of Ashley's bank balance instead of watching a top player doing the business on the pitch for us Can't wait until the £60m get's reinvested. Fucking hell, we'll be Champions League bound. Tee hee. I hope your not serious because you're in for a massive disappointment if you are! It'll be awful,and a firm reminder that any perceived progress under Ashley is tainted. +1 This is it - as we found out in the 1980's, keep on selling your best players and you are headed only in one direction and it's not up! +1 again . After so long any remaining decent players will decide not to stick around anymore because all of the best players keep getting sold. Fatty is too dim to see this though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I'm just going to enjoy players while we have them. It's just the nature of the beast. If I had to choose between having shit players and keeping them forever and having good players and watching them leave all the time, I'd choose the latter. Hell, we've had the former already fairly recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I don't think he's good enough yet to be starting for Chelsea. Me too. As much as I love Cheik his passing is a bit wayward at times and he has a tendency to get caught dallying on the ball a bit too often to be a top, top level defensive midfielder... not too mention his habit of picking up daft cards. But, for whatever reason the press seem to over-hype our better players (Carroll being the prime example). Which is a blessing in terms of the massively over inflated transfer fees we can demand off clubs that are obviously too lazy/dumb to see the flaws that divide a £10m player from a true £20m+ player... but I'd rather see them realistically valued and stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Cheik can boss any midfield. What we saw against Villa, Spurs and a couple of other games this season was the most industrious CM I've ever seen at Newcastle. He has become more dynamic and tackled Spurs off the pitch. In addition, his work load enhances Cabaye and gives him more freedom. The biggest shame - if he goes - would be that we wouldn't see the two of them in full flow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I love Tiote but if we get around 25mil for him then i'd snap their hands off. Go and get Rodwell for 15mil if he does go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I love Tiote but if we get around 25mil for him then i'd snap their hands off. Why? We won't use the money on new players anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I love Tiote but if we get around 25mil for him then i'd snap their hands off. Why? We won't use the money on new players anyway. Maybe we will, Maybe we wont. In what business can you turn down a profit of 20mil? Madness not too. Its been shown that the money stays in the club in some form and not in FMA's pockets. Dont get me wrong i too think we should be keepin our best players but we arent in a position where we can say no. Im more worried about losing Krul to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 In what business can you turn down a profit of 20mil? Madness not too. I don't know about you, but I like going to the match to cheer on good players, rather than celebrate the year's profitability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 In what business can you turn down a profit of 20mil? Madness not too. I don't know about you, but I like going to the match to cheer on good players, rather than celebrate the year's profitability. Nah mate i agree. Of course i want to see the best at our club all im saying is in no other business would a profit like that be turned down. We arent big enough nor strong enough to say no...that is the worry, but if it does happen then i accept it. Move on. 25mil is the least i'd be happy with though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 In what business can you turn down a profit of 20mil? Madness not too. I don't know about you, but I like going to the match to cheer on good players, rather than celebrate the year's profitability. Nah mate i agree. Of course i want to see the best at our club all im saying is in no other business would a profit like that be turned down. We arent big enough nor strong enough to say no...that is the worry, but if it does happen then i accept it. Move on. 25mil is the least i'd be happy with though. Sorry this is nothing to do with being 'big enough or strong enough' it's a point of stategy and ours is very clear when it comes to selling profitable players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 The fact that we're doing so well this season won't help us keep him either. FMA knows he has to at least keep the club in the premier league to make any money out of it and with our points haul already he's likely to think we'll easily do enough to survive without Tiote for the rest of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Would be gutted but for £30m you can understand. Dont think he's quite good enough for Chelsea, but hopefully Carr has a Sissoko/M'Vila lined up. If true, its dreadful news but hardly a surprise. Anyone expecting anything good to happen at this club is in denial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 We really should have gone all out for Blaise Matuidi in the summer as a ready made replacement as this was always going to happen. However, i have faith in Carr to find us another Cheik. FWIW, i don't think Tiote lends to the way AVB has his teams playing and i reckon he'll be a flop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I'm actually hoping on WBA getting relegated and for us to go for Mulumbu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I don't think he's good enough yet to be starting for Chelsea. I think in his absence we've forgotten just how good Tiote can be. Marvellous player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I'm actually hoping on WBA getting relegated and for us to go for Mulumbu. Diame is good. Think this is all a little premature mind you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 M'Vila would be an awesome replacement! Him and Cabaye in the middle? Niiiice. Costly though and we would NEED to offer european football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 wait so the headline on the article is tiote trying to get fit to get his transfer to chelsea through then in the article saying he doesn't want to move in jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 We won't get M'Vila Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Have to stay. We really need our best players. Only when we've used the Carroll-money, Ashley should/could look at big money sales. Which also has to go to new players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 We won't get M'Vila I know... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Just bought a house next to bobbydazzla's mate. No way he's moving Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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