TRon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 He's fucking rubbish and has been for a long time. Man U were ready to pay £15m for him pre-season. He isn't rubbish, we just need a manager who can put players where they operate most effectively. Cabaye should be playing ahead of Tiote not behind him for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I thought that as poor as he was defensively (I thought he was OK on the ball); that others left him with a lot to do. Awful organisation as much as anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Why in the f*** is he on the ball so much? Get in people's faces, win tackles, give it to someone more capable. Rocket science. Gona threaten his car tyres, every time he does a needless pirhoette, am gona stab his tyre up. But will you tell him please? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Think he's in exactly the same boat as Pardew, tbh. Overachieved for a season and has looked his true £3.5m (at best) self the rest of the time. We'll get nowhere with players like him making basic mistakes and slowing our play down all season. And fucking Keegan's in the press saying that we're vulnerable to losing him this summer? To who, ffs, Norwich? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 canny outburst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Think he's in exactly the same boat as Pardew, tbh. Overachieved for a season and has looked his true £3.5m (at best) self the rest of the time. We'll get nowhere with players like him making basic mistakes and slowing our play down all season. And fucking Keegan's in the press saying that we're vulnerable to losing him this summer? To who, ffs, Norwich? Just shows to me Keegan knows more about footballers than you do tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Nah, he's fucking rubbish like. I cannot stand Pardew at all, but I don't believe for one second that Pardew tells Tiote to go out there and do anything that results in him consistently misplacing passes (especially high up the field when he's the last man) and try to Cruyff turn three players on the edge of his own box. Everything else can be accounted to management, and I agree that he's being misused, but I still think he's a fundamentally stupid player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Think he's in exactly the same boat as Pardew, tbh. Overachieved for a season and has looked his true £3.5m (at best) self the rest of the time. We'll get nowhere with players like him making basic mistakes and slowing our play down all season. And fucking Keegan's in the press saying that we're vulnerable to losing him this summer? To who, ffs, Norwich? Just shows to me Keegan knows more about footballers than you do tbh. I do hope you're right because I'm fed up of watching bad footballers. The fact that the majority on here want Perch on the pitch instead of him says it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Barely passed as a footballer today, everything he did was absolute shite. And that `shot` Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Nah, he's fucking rubbish like. I cannot stand Pardew at all, but I don't believe for one second that Pardew tells Tiote to go out there and do anything that results in him consistently misplacing passes (especially high up the field when he's the last man) and try to Cruyff turn three players on the edge of his own box. Everything else can be accounted to management, and I agree that he's being misused, but I still think he's a fundamentally stupid player. Yet he still produces some of our better long range passes and is a better crosser of the ball than Jonas. He's not the brightest spark but he needs to keep it simple and he'll be fine. Again, a management issue for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Nah, he's f***ing rubbish like. I cannot stand Pardew at all, but I don't believe for one second that Pardew tells Tiote to go out there and do anything that results in him consistently misplacing passes (especially high up the field when he's the last man) and try to Cruyff turn three players on the edge of his own box. Everything else can be accounted to management, and I agree that he's being misused, but I still think he's a fundamentally stupid player. Yet he still produces some of our better long range passes and is a better crosser of the ball than Jonas. He's not the brightest spark but he needs to keep it simple and he'll be fine. Again, a management issue for me. He does what now? He's better a crosser than Jonas? Most people are, that's not in any way a positive attribute, it just means that he hasn't put in 99.9% horrific crosses for nigh on 4 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Didn't Pardew say he had told Cisse we needed more from him not just breaking up play and keeping it simple, sure he told him he had to try to create to get forward support the attack. This if I remember correctly was last season, all it has done is stop Tiote being Tiote, yes his bookings were an issue but no point having a beast if you tame him is there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Stephen Hawkins is a better crosser that Jonas tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Stephen Hawkins is a better crosser that Jonas tbh. Aye, but like Marveaux he's not really a winger. I think he plays best as a number 10 in the black hole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Stephen Hawkins is a better crosser that Jonas tbh. Aye, but like Marveaux he's not really a winger. I think he plays best as a number 10 in the black hole. considering how large the gaps are between the lines are in this team shamefully the hole is that large. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Nah, he's f***ing rubbish like. I cannot stand Pardew at all, but I don't believe for one second that Pardew tells Tiote to go out there and do anything that results in him consistently misplacing passes (especially high up the field when he's the last man) and try to Cruyff turn three players on the edge of his own box. Everything else can be accounted to management, and I agree that he's being misused, but I still think he's a fundamentally stupid player. Yet he still produces some of our better long range passes and is a better crosser of the ball than Jonas. He's not the brightest spark but he needs to keep it simple and he'll be fine. Again, a management issue for me. He does what now? He's better a crosser than Jonas? Most people are, that's not in any way a positive attribute, it just means that he hasn't put in 99.9% horrific crosses for nigh on 4 years. Tiote is a good all round player. He's quick, aggressive, good in the air, can hold the ball under pressure and can pass. His biggest problem is his ego, where he starts imagining himself to be Glenn Hoddle. For me, a strong manager would sort that out. It's like Eric Cantona under Howard Wilkinson vs Eric Cantona under Alex Ferguson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Sig worthy, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Nah, he's f***ing rubbish like. I cannot stand Pardew at all, but I don't believe for one second that Pardew tells Tiote to go out there and do anything that results in him consistently misplacing passes (especially high up the field when he's the last man) and try to Cruyff turn three players on the edge of his own box. Everything else can be accounted to management, and I agree that he's being misused, but I still think he's a fundamentally stupid player. Yet he still produces some of our better long range passes and is a better crosser of the ball than Jonas. He's not the brightest spark but he needs to keep it simple and he'll be fine. Again, a management issue for me. He does what now? He's better a crosser than Jonas? Most people are, that's not in any way a positive attribute, it just means that he hasn't put in 99.9% horrific crosses for nigh on 4 years. Tiote is a good all round player. He's quick, aggressive, good in the air, can hold the ball under pressure and can pass. His biggest problem is his ego, where he starts imagining himself to be Glenn Hoddle. For me, a strong manager would sort that out. It's like Eric Cantona under Howard Wilkinson vs Eric Cantona under Alex Ferguson. I think we'll just have to disagree mate, I honestly think he's none of those things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Nah, he's f***ing rubbish like. I cannot stand Pardew at all, but I don't believe for one second that Pardew tells Tiote to go out there and do anything that results in him consistently misplacing passes (especially high up the field when he's the last man) and try to Cruyff turn three players on the edge of his own box. Everything else can be accounted to management, and I agree that he's being misused, but I still think he's a fundamentally stupid player. Yet he still produces some of our better long range passes and is a better crosser of the ball than Jonas. He's not the brightest spark but he needs to keep it simple and he'll be fine. Again, a management issue for me. He does what now? He's better a crosser than Jonas? Most people are, that's not in any way a positive attribute, it just means that he hasn't put in 99.9% horrific crosses for nigh on 4 years. Tiote is a good all round player. He's quick, aggressive, good in the air, can hold the ball under pressure and can pass. His biggest problem is his ego, where he starts imagining himself to be Glenn Hoddle. For me, a strong manager would sort that out. It's like Eric Cantona under Howard Wilkinson vs Eric Cantona under Alex Ferguson. I think we'll just have to disagree mate, I honestly think he's none of those things. That's okay, I've seen fans on here wishing we had Kevin Nolan back so not really surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Nah, he's f***ing rubbish like. I cannot stand Pardew at all, but I don't believe for one second that Pardew tells Tiote to go out there and do anything that results in him consistently misplacing passes (especially high up the field when he's the last man) and try to Cruyff turn three players on the edge of his own box. Everything else can be accounted to management, and I agree that he's being misused, but I still think he's a fundamentally stupid player. Hard to disagree with some of that. He'll always be prone to doing something a bit daft, but if he's used correctly he'll do far more good than bad. Never a 20 million player but pure defensive midfielders seldom are as, more often than not, they're not particularly great footballers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Nah, he's f***ing rubbish like. I cannot stand Pardew at all, but I don't believe for one second that Pardew tells Tiote to go out there and do anything that results in him consistently misplacing passes (especially high up the field when he's the last man) and try to Cruyff turn three players on the edge of his own box. Everything else can be accounted to management, and I agree that he's being misused, but I still think he's a fundamentally stupid player. Yet he still produces some of our better long range passes and is a better crosser of the ball than Jonas. He's not the brightest spark but he needs to keep it simple and he'll be fine. Again, a management issue for me. He does what now? He's better a crosser than Jonas? Most people are, that's not in any way a positive attribute, it just means that he hasn't put in 99.9% horrific crosses for nigh on 4 years. Tiote is a good all round player. He's quick, aggressive, good in the air, can hold the ball under pressure and can pass. His biggest problem is his ego, where he starts imagining himself to be Glenn Hoddle. For me, a strong manager would sort that out. It's like Eric Cantona under Howard Wilkinson vs Eric Cantona under Alex Ferguson. I think we'll just have to disagree mate, I honestly think he's none of those things. That's okay, I've seen fans on here wishing we had Kevin Nolan back so not really surprised. One opinion doesn't equal another. You can't really discredit my opinion with a statement that doesn't apply to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I'm actually with Ronaldo somewhat on this one. Only games he seems worthy of our shirts in the last 12 months or so has been against the top clubs. There's no point in having him when we have to controll games as he causes more trouble than help us out offensively. His pathetic attempt of a shot with his left that he fluffed completely was enough for me from him today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I'm actually with Ronaldo somewhat on this one. Only games he seems worthy of our shirts in the last 12 months or so has been against the top clubs. There's no point in having him when we have to controll games as he causes more trouble than help us out offensively. His pathetic attempt of a shot with his left that he fluffed completely was enough for me from him today. I'd forgotten about that shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Nah, he's f***ing rubbish like. I cannot stand Pardew at all, but I don't believe for one second that Pardew tells Tiote to go out there and do anything that results in him consistently misplacing passes (especially high up the field when he's the last man) and try to Cruyff turn three players on the edge of his own box. Everything else can be accounted to management, and I agree that he's being misused, but I still think he's a fundamentally stupid player. Yet he still produces some of our better long range passes and is a better crosser of the ball than Jonas. He's not the brightest spark but he needs to keep it simple and he'll be fine. Again, a management issue for me. He does what now? He's better a crosser than Jonas? Most people are, that's not in any way a positive attribute, it just means that he hasn't put in 99.9% horrific crosses for nigh on 4 years. Tiote is a good all round player. He's quick, aggressive, good in the air, can hold the ball under pressure and can pass. His biggest problem is his ego, where he starts imagining himself to be Glenn Hoddle. For me, a strong manager would sort that out. It's like Eric Cantona under Howard Wilkinson vs Eric Cantona under Alex Ferguson. I think we'll just have to disagree mate, I honestly think he's none of those things. That's okay, I've seen fans on here wishing we had Kevin Nolan back so not really surprised. One opinion doesn't equal another. You can't really discredit my opinion with a statement that doesn't apply to me. I didn't, I just pointed out that people see things differently from their own limited perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I'm actually with Ronaldo somewhat on this one. Only games he seems worthy of our shirts in the last 12 months or so has been against the top clubs. There's no point in having him when we have to controll games as he causes more trouble than help us out offensively. His pathetic attempt of a shot with his left that he fluffed completely was enough for me from him today. I'd forgotten about that shot. He shouldn't be taking shots at goal. Why is Cabaye playing deep and making fouls in our half while Tiote is taking daft shots in the opposition penalty area? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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