Guest Roger Kint Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Jonas was decent in the Championship and went through a decent spell around January in the season after we came up IIRC, but has been poor to woeful for most of his time here. Most of the Jonas/Jose partnership came from Jose being an excellent full back that helped Jonas massively, most of the time Jonas would either lose possession or he'd play a simple pass to Enrique and let him do the hard part. I said as much back then as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Tiote's simply remembered what his limitations are. There's not a lot worse than a player who has ideas above his station and Tiote has been prone to this for quite a bit tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I still don't really buy that over-elaboration was his problem. Wrong decision-making was, and sloppy passing. Guess they're related. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I still don't really buy that over-elaboration was his problem. Wrong decision-making was, and sloppy passing. Guess they're related. His timing of the tackle and positioning were shot to bits, too. Symptoms of shit form, and a subsequent loss of confidence, for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Agreed, I think people have been a bit too quick to put everything down to 'trying too much'. Maybe because there's a Pardew quote about him being the complete midfielder or some shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 wonder what the crack was with him just trampling on people and wiping them out was all about instead of actually trying to get the football and that? maybe born of frustration at how awful he was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 He actually got less yellow cards last season than any other right? he did (wrongfully) get sent off in that period however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Agreed, I think people have been a bit too quick to put everything down to 'trying too much'. Maybe because there's a Pardew quote about him being the complete midfielder or some shit. Nah. More to the fact of him getting caught in possession while trying to Scott Parker pirouette away from trouble and attempting things he isn't capable of often, like repeatedly "shooting" from 25 yards out. It seems now that he is breaking up play and then playing a simple pass to players who have more creative skills. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Tiote also needed to improve his touch as he would get caught far too much with the ball as he need 2-3 touches at times, compare that to Anita where it's usually 1 touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Agreed, I think people have been a bit too quick to put everything down to 'trying too much'. Maybe because there's a Pardew quote about him being the complete midfielder or some s***. Nah. More to the fact of him getting caught in possession while trying to Scott Parker pirouette away from trouble and attempting things he isn't capable of often, like repeatedly "shooting" from 25 yards out. It seems now that he is breaking up play and then playing a simple pass to players who have more creative skills. He still does a lot of the 'pirouetting' now - it just seems to be working better at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 That's kind of what I mean... not sure how much his approach has changed and how much it's just him recovering some form/confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 combined with more options and movement around him than he's arguably ever had, before he'd turn and there was nothing, now he's got cabaye/sissoko/santon/debuchy/mym as a minimum all looking to provide an option for him, all confident and all comfortable on the ball like i was saying in the other thread on HBA, it's not just suddenly that tiote stopped being shit, things around him have changed as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 combined with more options and movement around him than he's arguably ever had, before he'd turn and there was nothing, now he's got cabaye/sissoko/santon/debuchy/mym as a minimum all looking to provide an option for him, all confident and all comfortable on the ball like i was saying in the other thread on HBA, it's not just suddenly that tiote stopped being s***, things around him have changed as well Not willing to go there yet.... if we beat Norwich and WBA then yeah i'm on the bandwagon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 combined with more options and movement around him than he's arguably ever had, before he'd turn and there was nothing, now he's got cabaye/sissoko/santon/debuchy/mym as a minimum all looking to provide an option for him, all confident and all comfortable on the ball like i was saying in the other thread on HBA, it's not just suddenly that tiote stopped being s***, things around him have changed as well Not willing to go there yet.... if we beat Norwich and WBA then yeah i'm on the bandwagon. Lets take things 1 game at a time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I didn't say permanent change to be fair, merely commenting on recent games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Just watching Ivory Coast game, Tiote on cruches at the end! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Just watching Ivory Coast game, Tiote on cruches at the end! That should please a few, or is he good again, can't keep up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Just watching Ivory Coast game, Tiote on cruches at the end! That should please a few, or is he good again, can't keep up? Bad news for us if he's out for a while, been playing really well. When he plays to his strengths he's good a la Big Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Tiote wasn't named in the squad but was there supporting, bit odd that he's ended up on crutches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Was suspended for this wasn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Isn't even funny. Fuck off man, seriously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Terrible today. Anita would eat this lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Done very well in our own half, but fuck me he's been bad going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Cheik Tishoote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Don't forget the moment he just decided to stop and watch a ball run loose, btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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