Guest icemanblue Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I think Ronaldo has been spot on about Tiote. He should just revert back to basics or not start against teams like Stoke at all. His best games comes against the better teams and maybe Anita would've been better against a team like Stoke. Tiote didn't have a bad game yesterday though, he was actually good until that tackle, which is always a risk when he's on the field. Anita would have been bullied out of it yesterday, he wouldn't have made any clinical incisive passing, wouldn't have won the ball high up the pitch. Probs wouldn't have given away a pen either but there you go. Exactly. We were up against some absolute giants all over the pitch yesterday. Time and again, Tiote was the one challenging for headers with Crouch, Walters and the other one. Not winning them every time, but being enough of a presence to ensure that they couldn't build attacks from easy knock ons. Anita wouldn't have got anywhere near them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Yeah, any team that attempts to bully us out of the game, we need his presence in midfield, Tiote was very very good at closing down tackles yesterday, which Anita simply isn't yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I might be in favour of selling if I thought we could get a decent price for him, especially as I favour Sissoko dropping deeper position wise. Agree with those saying he would be a lot more effective if he kept it simple,too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 He's been a lot better since coming back from Africa and is a clear starter. He will also be a lot more careful inside the box after yesterday. I guess it was a case of him being over-confident after playing really well all game. He knows he was stupid and Pardew will tell him that too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I might be in favour of selling if I thought we could get a decent price for him, especially as I favour Sissoko dropping deeper position wise. Agree with those saying he would be a lot more effective if he kept it simple,too. You haven't been happy with Sissoko's performances or why would you do that? Also Tiote has been keeping it simple the past few games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Needs to up his tempo, playing a very individual game at the moment. He can dominate midfield not with strength alone but with wits. This season he has too much emphasis on power, needs to read the game better. His first touches are still a big miss and the constant need to get the ball under control rather than a quick one touch out is liability at times. Still have confidence in him to sort out his game, just play to his instincts , he looks like he might be trying too hard now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I think Ronaldo has been spot on about Tiote. He should just revert back to basics or not start against teams like Stoke at all. His best games comes against the better teams and maybe Anita would've been better against a team like Stoke. Tiote didn't have a bad game yesterday though, he was actually good until that tackle, which is always a risk when he's on the field. Anita would have been bullied out of it yesterday, he wouldn't have made any clinical incisive passing, wouldn't have won the ball high up the pitch. Probs wouldn't have given away a pen either but there you go. Wasn't saying Tiote had a bad game, but Anita wouldn't have been bullied nowhere near man. Taylor and MBiwa were good enough yesterday to show that they could win headers against Walters and Crouch. Anita in midfield gives us more movement in creating offensive outlets. And as I said, if Tiote reverts back to basics he should be starting every game no doubt in my mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I might be in favour of selling if I thought we could get a decent price for him, especially as I favour Sissoko dropping deeper position wise. Agree with those saying he would be a lot more effective if he kept it simple,too. You haven't been happy with Sissoko's performances or why would you do that? Also Tiote has been keeping it simple the past few games. Think Sissoko is better suited to a box-to-box role. Tiote has looked a little better in recent games, but has yet to replicate the role/form of his first season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I might be in favour of selling if I thought we could get a decent price for him, especially as I favour Sissoko dropping deeper position wise. Agree with those saying he would be a lot more effective if he kept it simple,too. You haven't been happy with Sissoko's performances or why would you do that? Also Tiote has been keeping it simple the past few games. Think Sissoko is better suited to a box-to-box role. Tiote has looked a little better in recent games, but has yet to replicate the role/form of his first season. Bit like saying Cabaye is better suited to CM than Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I might be in favour of selling if I thought we could get a decent price for him, especially as I favour Sissoko dropping deeper position wise. Agree with those saying he would be a lot more effective if he kept it simple,too. You haven't been happy with Sissoko's performances or why would you do that? Also Tiote has been keeping it simple the past few games. Think Sissoko is better suited to a box-to-box role. Tiote has looked a little better in recent games, but has yet to replicate the role/form of his first season. Bit like saying Cabaye is better suited to CM than Shola. I meant I see Sissoko as a box-to-box player rather than as a number 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Fair play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Don't think he is myself tbh, saw him play as a b2b many times in France and he never performed to the level he has so far for us. His shackles have been let off so to speak and he's thriving. Do i think we should use him as b2b on occasion against certain opposition? Sure but long term i don't think its his best and most effective position. Defensively he was never the best anyway and full credit for Pardew in putting him in a role which would get the best from offensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Thing is, we need a no.10, and he plays the role very, very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Moussa in the no 10 role has become our best attacking outlet in the last few games, his and Gouffran's movement/forward runs are a new dimension and something I'd describe as vital to our attacking play. Playing him deeper would take that away from us and make us more reliant on Ben Arfa/Santon like earlier in the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I agree, I'd only play him deeper against teams set up like Stoke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 ChrisFordTV Cheik Tiote busting some moves at training today #NUFC vine.co/v/bdKddKK7YUF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 ChrisFordTV Cheik Tiote busting some moves at training today #NUFC vine.co/v/bdKddKK7YUF he looks about 12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 His head looks huge too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Don't think he is myself tbh, saw him play as a b2b many times in France and he never performed to the level he has so far for us. His shackles have been let off so to speak and he's thriving. Do i think we should use him as b2b on occasion against certain opposition? Sure but long term i don't think its his best and most effective position. Defensively he was never the best anyway and full credit for Pardew in putting him in a role which would get the best from offensively. Moussa in the no 10 role has become our best attacking outlet in the last few games, his and Gouffran's movement/forward runs are a new dimension and something I'd describe as vital to our attacking play. Playing him deeper would take that away from us and make us more reliant on Ben Arfa/Santon like earlier in the season. I think he is taken out of the game more by being played further forward,especially given the way we play under Pardew. His energy,physical presence and composure on the ball would be better utilised in a box-to-box role, which wouldn't sacrifice the marauding runs which have revitalised our attacking play. He is more than competent as a number 10, but personally I would play Marveaux there (who I rate higher in terms of 'football IQ'). I also don't think we require a DM in a lot of our games, especially at home, so don't mind Tiote making way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Oh in certain games i definitely agree playing Sissoko alongside Cabaye and Marveaux behind Cisse makes perfect sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Venkman Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Pretty much out of patience Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Shocking first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 This is the type of game that should be well suited to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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