Dokko Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Massive passenger in the place where we are getting fucked over, has to sit it out for the foreseeable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 work rate against football, jonas against marveaux...if you r a coach who do you pick up? one year later, pardew starts to see, coach of the one year later.. Bit unfair, Marv has had two huge injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I dont think i can remember a player for us or anyone else get caught on the ball as much as he does nowadays. Shocking at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Finished at this level. Real shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toondra Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 work rate against football, jonas against marveaux...if you r a coach who do you pick up? one year later, pardew starts to see, coach of the one year later.. Bit unfair, Marv has had two huge injuries. yes it's true, but if i'm a coach and i know a player can bring something to my team, i play him every time i can... sometimes marveaux was not even on the bench, for pardew he was not good enough, like ben arfa last year... let him play 5 games, and we l'see the difference in the style of play of the team but i know, i m not a coach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Sad seeing him like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Yeah, cracking guy but a hindrance these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Can't remember him beating opposing fullback once all season. Or any other player. Shame as he's one of my favourites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 work rate against football, jonas against marveaux...if you r a coach who do you pick up? one year later, pardew starts to see, coach of the one year later.. Bit unfair, Marv has had two huge injuries. yes it's true, but if i'm a coach and i know a player can bring something to my team, i play him every time i can... sometimes marveaux was not even on the bench, for pardew he was not good enough, like ben arfa last year... let him play 5 games, and we l'see the difference in the style of play of the team but i know, i m not a coach He's over cautious with those types of players, wants to up their work rate so they aren't a liability, it went on too long for hba, but end result we got a better player for it. Add to that the injuries I can see why it's taken longer with Marv, hopefully this is his breakthrough game, but he's got to stay fit, that I have less confidence in going off his medical history. Fingers crossed eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Looks absolutely glue at the moment. Needs dropping to kick him in the arse again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Without his pacey runs carrying us forward he's pretty useless. Marveaux should be taking his place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Looks absolutely glue at the moment. Needs dropping to kick him in the arse again. I don't think that will do any good. I just think he's done now as a Premier League footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Looks absolutely glue at the moment. Needs dropping to kick him in the arse again. What good would that do? He's always been a relatively poor player who gets by on athleticism. He isn't going to get younger because you take him out of the team or slap his backside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toondra Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 work rate against football, jonas against marveaux...if you r a coach who do you pick up? one year later, pardew starts to see, coach of the one year later.. Bit unfair, Marv has had two huge injuries. yes it's true, but if i'm a coach and i know a player can bring something to my team, i play him every time i can... sometimes marveaux was not even on the bench, for pardew he was not good enough, like ben arfa last year... let him play 5 games, and we l'see the difference in the style of play of the team but i know, i m not a coach He's over cautious with those types of players, wants to up their work rate so they aren't a liability, it went on too long for hba, but end result we got a better player for it. Add to that the injuries I can see why it's taken longer with Marv, hopefully this is his breakthrough game, but he's got to stay fit, that I have less confidence in going off his medical history. Fingers crossed eh? For me, ben arfa is not a better player than two/three years ago... remember his match against everton, this is kind of a legend to say that pardew has changed "ben arfa"..he just needed games to not prove every minute that he could be a starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 We definitely need to upgrade so that he can be a squad player next season. Having him play near enough every game is not helping any one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I really like Jonas but he can't be first choice any longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Looks absolutely glue at the moment. Needs dropping to kick him in the arse again. What good would that do? He's always been a relatively poor player who gets by on athleticism. He isn't going to get younger because you take him out of the team or slap his backside. Just previously when he's been dropped/had his position threatened he's come back with a bit of fire in his belly. He's very comfortable at the minute I think, his place is pretty much guaranteed. It'll make a man lackadaisical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 What on earth has happened to Jonas? He's only 29, his legs shouldn't be anywhere near gone yet but he looks absolutely shot. Hopefully just a confidence issue making it look worse... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 genuinely think me gran, who has been dead 4 years, would have offered more than him tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Love the bloke but whenever he gets the ball now I desperately hope he shifts it as soon as possible. Never had any end product but his work rate was top notch and he could draw a foul but he fails to do that these days so is left with not much left. Real shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Looks absolutely glue at the moment. Needs dropping to kick him in the arse again. What good would that do? He's always been a relatively poor player who gets by on athleticism. He isn't going to get younger because you take him out of the team or slap his backside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Problem is we will never get rid of him, high earner and long contract. Wonder if someone is stupid enough not to have realised what's going on, bit like us when we signed Geremi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 This thread will be calling at overreaction central only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Made me sad yesterday. Shadow of him old self. Really needs to be replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Looks absolutely glue at the moment. Needs dropping to kick him in the arse again. What good would that do? He's always been a relatively poor player who gets by on athleticism. He isn't going to get younger because you take him out of the team or slap his backside. Just previously when he's been dropped/had his position threatened he's come back with a bit of fire in his belly. He's very comfortable at the minute I think, his place is pretty much guaranteed. It'll make a man lackadaisical. He was out of the team for 2 games if memory serves and didn't really come back any better than when he was dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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