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This can't be the same bloke, surely? :lol:

 

 

20th May 2003 - Latest News

 

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Chris Bascombe wonders when Argentinian youngster Jonas Gutierrez is going to stop making noises about a possible transfer to Liverpool in the summer...

 

 

 

Liverpool's sponsors Carlsberg have a perceptive and amusing advert doing the rounds at the moment.

 

It charts the meteoric raise of a mediocre footballer. In one shot you see him mis-kick in front of an open goal for a Sunday league team. In the next, newspaper headlines are proclaiming him the greatest player since Pele and he's about to sign for the European Champions (it's a bit like the Neil Webb story 15 years too late).

 

The slogan at the end acclaims 'probably the best football agent in the world'.

 

The advertisers may be aware just how close to reality this tale is, especially if they have knowledge of the case of Argentinian 'wonderkid' and Planet Football columnist Jonas Gutierrez.

 

Gutierrez, you may recall, spent a few days on trial at Liverpool recently. It would have been a week but the Reds thought two days was more than enough.

 

In the course of his spell in England, Jonas managed to build an entire career. Depending on what you read, he was going to put his love for Everton to one side, sign for Liverpool, become the next Ryan Giggs and solve Houllier's width problems before moving to Real Madrid. All this thanks to a few training sessions in a pair of white boots

 

You may have thought this sounded too good to be true. You'd be right.

 

Even his arrival was heralded far too excitedly. One Sunday paper had laughingly described the player as 'Gerard Houllier's first big summer signing'.

 

Had it not been for the player's agent - and the fact he signed more autographs in a day than Michael Owen does in a year - Gutierrez would have flown in an out without anyone noticing he'd been here, just like the other half dozen or so triallists who pass through the Melwood gates each season.

 

Unfortunately, the unnecessary excitement surrounding the Argentinian made Mr Nobody from Nowhere a potential superstar for a week.

 

Triallists are hardly worth such attention. In some cases, the coaching staff haven't even heard of the players'. They agree to look at them out of courtesy because their representative is pushy enough, works for someone else who the club could be interested in at a later date, or are even prepared to pay a ludicrous amount of cash just to

 

have their man have the experience of training with the first team.

 

In the Gutierrez case, the last option explained his presence on Merseyside. His agent paid for the privilege. Houllier had no intention of signing the lad unless he could prove he was some kind of South American phenomenon. He wasn't.

 

That didn't stop the campaign to get him noticed going into overdrive with a series of 'interviews' appearing from the same sources which gave Gutierrez far more credibility than he deserved.

 

"I'm a bit like Ryan Giggs," was the first gem. To be fair, maybe something was lost in translation. What Jonas probably really said was: "I flew here on Ryan Air."

 

If that wasn't enough, this was followed with..."It will be funny playing for Liverpool because I'm an Everton fan." As own goals go, it was the biggest since I decided to take that mini-break in Baghdad last January. Had our white-booted, floppy fringed Argentinian friend finished? Not yet. "I want to play in Spain but England will do for now."

 

We're honoured by your presence Jonas. Liverpool will be delighted to be your 'stepping stone' to Madrid. If he was that good, why did he need a trial?

 

As it turned out, Jonas was 'no Maradona', as one observer close to the action put it. Liverpool didn't want him. When the wonderkid was told not to come back for his last day's training, the PR machine needed re-oiling.

 

Speaking on his behalf, Jonas' agent informed the nearest website: "Liverpool were impressed but they need someone to go straight into the team."

 

That's one way of putting it. Another would be 'he wasn't even as good as some of the kids playing on Stanley Park and we told him it wasn't worth him coming back tomorrow'.

 

Then the newspaper which claimed he would be the first summer signing needed to backtrack. "Houllier has suffered a major blow because Gutierrez was not as good as he thought he was," claimed the story.

 

Wrong! Gutierrez wasn't the player he thought he was. He left and we thought that was the end of it. The 15 minutes of fame had expired.

 

Until...yes. Jonas was at it again this week. It seems he hasn't given up on his dream move to Spain (via a few years in Liverpool). "I would like very much the chance to play for Liverpool. I was satisfied with what I did. I gave the best of myself. Now I only have to wait and see what happens. If something will be done, it will happen in June," he said.

 

Can this lad take a hint or what?

 

Listen Jonas, or your agent, or your contact at Planet Football, can you get the message? It ain't gonna happen. Please stop.

 

The case of Jonas Gutierrez is proof the truth isn't always as strange as the fiction - but sometimes it's funnier.

 

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Was scranning poppadoms at the Street Spice festival yesterday, fucking gutted I missed him.

 

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Wrong! Gutierrez wasn't the player he thought he was. He left and we thought that was the end of it. The 15 minutes of fame had expired.

 

Until...yes. Jonas was at it again this week. It seems he hasn't given up on his dream move to Spain (via a few years in Liverpool). "I would like very much the chance to play for Liverpool. I was satisfied with what I did. I gave the best of myself. Now I only have to wait and see what happens. If something will be done, it will happen in June," he said.

 

Can this lad take a hint or what?

 

Listen Jonas, or your agent, or your contact at Planet Football, can you get the message? It ain't gonna happen. Please stop.

 

The case of Jonas Gutierrez is proof the truth isn't always as strange as the fiction - but sometimes it's funnier.

 

 

Fucking hell. :lol:

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LIVERPOOL'S Argentinian trialist Jonas Manuel Gutierrez has arrived at Anfield with a remarkable claim - his family are all Evertonians!

 

The 20-year-old midfielder, currently spending a week on trial with the Reds, believes he can add the qualities of a Ryan Giggs to Gerard Houllier's team next season.

 

But it is his admission he comes from a family of Blues that is sure to raise a few eyebrows around Melwood as he tries to secure a long-term deal.

 

Argentina is not regarded as a hot-bed of support for David Moyes' side but Gutierrez is seeking a move to Merseyside after falling out with his coach at Velez Sarsfield.

 

And he believes he can bring valuable flair to the Reds set-up after his representatives secured a trial through Houllier.

 

Gutierrez said: "I think I play as well as someone like a (Andres) D'Alessandro, or a (Ryan) Giggs. I am very creative and like to play on the left side.

 

"My game is more technical and not so physical, so I would rather play in Spain. I also like the warm weather and speak the language there and so I think it would be easier for me to adapt.

 

"But, for now, England would be more than fine, it would be a good starting point for me to move on to Spain.

 

"I am certain I can play at the highest level, and make an immediate impact on any team that takes me. My club in Argentina is a big club, so I would rather come in at a higher level than with some small club."

 

Gutierrez, valued at £2m, admitted he is desperate to get away from Sarsfield after a dispute with the Velez coach.

 

"The coach and I have had a personality clash," he said. "That's why I decided to quit the club, it was a personal decision.

 

"An Argentinian told me he represented Liverpool and spoke to my team and my family about me coming over to sign a contract with them.

 

"Funnily enough, my family are all Everton fans, so it will be strange to come to Liverpool to play for Liverpool. But I am a professional and will do my best."

 

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he sounds pretty honest to me: 'i am more skill than physical so spain would suit me more'. can anyone really argue with that?

 

Yes, yes we can.

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Gutierrez, valued at £2m, admitted he is desperate to get away from Sarsfield after a dispute with the Velez coach.

 

"The coach and I have had a personality clash," he said. "That's why I decided to quit the club, it was a personal decision.

 

Two years later, he finally left. :lol:

 

It's the article that keeps on giving.

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Can you imagine how bad he must've been 10 years ago? :lol:

 

:dontknow: are we forgetting how good he has been for us based on half a season?

 

The guy has always had his flaws, but he's had consistent spells of quality throughout his time with us. There was a time when he seemed to have even sorted his crossing out... shortly before Enrique left and he became a left back. He's been shite this season overall and I'm concerned he won't get back to what he has been, but prior to this season his time with us has been a success from an individual perspective.

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Can you imagine how bad he must've been 10 years ago? :lol:

 

:dontknow: are we forgetting how good he has been for us based on half a season?

 

He's been an NUFC player for 4 and a half years. You know as well as I do there's loads more to it than the rubbish he's served up since August.

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