Should we be playing 2 proper forwards at home?

[madras]

Lovenkrands looks far too weak for me in this division, and people think Nolan disappears from games this bloke is even worse.

 

Shola will be shola, will have the odd good game and then go back to his old s**** best.

 

Ranger needs development, he has the potential to be our 2nd choice striker but I wouldn't want to throw him in.

 

This goes back to the fact, Hughton failed to see that signing a striker in the summer capable of playing in the premiership as important.  It could cost him dear.

i'd say the way he went after keane meant he thought one was important but didn't want to get in a)someone who wasn't going to be good enough B) someone we couldn't afford.

[Hanshithispantz]

If you look at some of the shite starting upfront in this league we realy aren't THAT bad in terms of striking options to be honest. Not brilliant by any means, but no worse than the rest of the dross.

[Wullie]

Lovenkrands does have a tendency to disappear but rarely did at home last year. Our problem at home is movement and like it or not he's the best we have as a striker who can move. As for weak, fucking hell, the Championship was designed for huge clogging centre halves.

[JCONA]

Should we? YES

Will we? NO

 

Correct.

 

 

Agreed sadly.

 

As for loven, I personally think he's an intelligent player and he makes excellent runs. He finishing isn't great by no means but I think we should play him with carroll and with some half decent service, he'll get a goal every few games at best. At worst he'll still give defenses somthing to think about, and it means we won't be playing kevin nolan in the fking hole.

[JH]

Lovenkrands looks far too weak for me in this division, and people think Nolan disappears from games this bloke is even worse.

 

Shola will be shola, will have the odd good game and then go back to his old s**** best.

 

Ranger needs development, he has the potential to be our 2nd choice striker but I wouldn't want to throw him in.

 

This goes back to the fact, Hughton failed to see that signing a striker in the summer capable of playing in the premiership as important.  It could cost him dear.

 

In the grand total of 28 minutes that he's been on the pitch in the Premier League this season?

[steve_69]

YES

[Carlito]

Yes.

[Guest neesy111]

Lovenkrands looks far too weak for me in this division, and people think Nolan disappears from games this bloke is even worse.

 

Shola will be shola, will have the odd good game and then go back to his old s**** best.

 

Ranger needs development, he has the potential to be our 2nd choice striker but I wouldn't want to throw him in.

 

This goes back to the fact, Hughton failed to see that signing a striker in the summer capable of playing in the premiership as important.  It could cost him dear.

 

In the grand total of 28 minutes that he's been on the pitch in the Premier League this season?

 

I'd go from the last time we were in the premiership, also from my mate who is a Rangers fan, who said exactly the same thing.  He's useful as an impact sub, that is all.

[ponsaelius]

I don't see how Lovenkrands has anything to make him an impact sub. He's basically a poacher who will be anonymous for large periods of a time but has decent pace and movement in the very few occasions he gains the chance to show it. If anything he's the kind of player you'd start in a game in the hope he'd pop up with a goal, rather than somebody you'd introduce as a sub in the hope of changing the game.

 

Personally I don't think he's Premiership class, but I'd rather have him in the team than Nolan atm.

[cubaricho]

Should we? YES

Will we? NO

 

Correct.

 

 

Agreed sadly.

 

As for loven, I personally think he's an intelligent player and he makes excellent runs. He finishing isn't great by no means but I think we should play him with carroll and with some half decent service, he'll get a goal every few games at best. At worst he'll still give defenses somthing to think about, and it means we won't be playing kevin nolan in the fking hole.

 

All of the above.

[David28]

We could try Lovenkrands & Carroll.

 

They at least know how to play together from the Championship (I know, it's a different level and all that, but still).

[Mick]

We got away with this Nolan business in the champs, its like being a man down in the prem.

 

It was the same in the Championship except that he found scoring easier, he was just as limited and our play was as negatively affected as it is now but we got away with it due to the poor opposition.

[Guest neesy111]

Mick, in that mackems reserve game would you say Lovenkrands was anonymous in that match as well?

[Hanshithispantz]

I think Championship games are a step above the mackems reserves and Accrington Stanley like, he was no means annonimous in most games last season.

 

No ones saying he's the best thing since sliced bread, but it's a bit unfair to knock him considering his competition

[Guest BlacknWhiteArmy]

Yes, it should be 2 up front. But not Ameobi/Carroll, I'd rather see Carroll/Lovenkrands because at least we'd get a bit of movement alongside Carroll

[Guest neesy111]

I think Championship games are a step above the mackems reserves and Accrington Stanley like, he was no means annonimous in most games last season.

 

No ones saying he's the best thing since sliced bread, but it's a bit unfair to knock him considering his competition

 

He had a very good run between January and March, otherwise than that he was either injured or unavailable.  If he was good enough, why didn't any club come in for him before we signed him last september as well?

[The Prophet]

We don't necessarily need to play two forwards up front we do however need a system where people get forward and assist Carroll, neither Barton or Nolan have done it consistently this season. Playing someone up front with him is the most obvious solution but whether we have anyone capable at this level remains to be seen.

[Mick]

Mick, in that mackems reserve game would you say Lovenkrands was anonymous in that match as well?

 

I don't think he's had a good game this season so far and I like him.

[Wullie]

I think Championship games are a step above the mackems reserves and Accrington Stanley like, he was no means annonimous in most games last season.

 

No ones saying he's the best thing since sliced bread, but it's a bit unfair to knock him considering his competition

 

He had a very good run between January and March, otherwise than that he was either injured or unavailable.  If he was good enough, why didn't any club come in for him before we signed him last september as well?

 

What sort of argument is that?

[Guest neesy111]

I think Championship games are a step above the mackems reserves and Accrington Stanley like, he was no means annonimous in most games last season.

 

No ones saying he's the best thing since sliced bread, but it's a bit unfair to knock him considering his competition

 

He had a very good run between January and March, otherwise than that he was either injured or unavailable.  If he was good enough, why didn't any club come in for him before we signed him last september as well?

 

What sort of argument is that?

 

Not really an arguement, just making some points tbh.

[Mistle17]

Play Lovenkrands. Adds a bit of spark/movement.

 

I'm surprised we didn't bring him on on Sunday, even. He's a canny impact player.

[The Prophet]

I think Championship games are a step above the mackems reserves and Accrington Stanley like, he was no means annonimous in most games last season.

 

No ones saying he's the best thing since sliced bread, but it's a bit unfair to knock him considering his competition

 

He had a very good run between January and March, otherwise than that he was either injured or unavailable.  If he was good enough, why didn't any club come in for him before we signed him last september as well?

 

What sort of argument is that?

 

Not really an arguement, just making some points tbh.

 

I don't think anyone bar Man United were in for Hernandez. On that basis he must be shite.

[Guest neesy111]

I think Championship games are a step above the mackems reserves and Accrington Stanley like, he was no means annonimous in most games last season.

 

No ones saying he's the best thing since sliced bread, but it's a bit unfair to knock him considering his competition

 

He had a very good run between January and March, otherwise than that he was either injured or unavailable.  If he was good enough, why didn't any club come in for him before we signed him last september as well?

 

What sort of argument is that?

 

Not really an arguement, just making some points tbh.

 

I don't think anyone bar Man United were in for Hernandez. On that basis he must be shite.

 

Different Arguement, Lovenkrands was a on free and had just played 4 months in the premiership.  Hernandez cost around £10M, and hasn't played in the premiership before then.

[Wullie]

I think Championship games are a step above the mackems reserves and Accrington Stanley like, he was no means annonimous in most games last season.

 

No ones saying he's the best thing since sliced bread, but it's a bit unfair to knock him considering his competition

 

He had a very good run between January and March, otherwise than that he was either injured or unavailable.  If he was good enough, why didn't any club come in for him before we signed him last september as well?

 

What sort of argument is that?

 

Not really an arguement, just making some points tbh.

 

I don't think anyone bar Man United were in for Hernandez. On that basis he must be shite.

 

Ben Arfa's fucking shit anarl. And that Tiote. Wanker. Etc etc.

[Wullie]

I think Championship games are a step above the mackems reserves and Accrington Stanley like, he was no means annonimous in most games last season.

 

No ones saying he's the best thing since sliced bread, but it's a bit unfair to knock him considering his competition

 

He had a very good run between January and March, otherwise than that he was either injured or unavailable.  If he was good enough, why didn't any club come in for him before we signed him last september as well?

 

What sort of argument is that?

 

Not really an arguement, just making some points tbh.

 

I don't think anyone bar Man United were in for Hernandez. On that basis he must be shite.

 

Different Arguement, Lovenkrands was a on free and had just played 4 months in the premiership.  Hernandez cost around £10M, and hasn't played in the premiership before then.

 

Can you not use your own eyes to see that we need movement on the pitch? Lower level it may be but Blackpool are a team we battered into submission a few short months ago, now they're coming up here and mugging us.

 

We played some tremendous stuff at the back end of last season, teams couldn't handle the pace and movement of Routledge, Gutierrez and Lovenkrands. Now we play a very different way and it's not working.