Guest neesy111 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I just read on .COM That Dyer is fit and could be chosen to play.... this is a joke right? Since he left us he has only started 13 games (and never scored). Can anyone tell me if he has ever finished any of those or has he gone off injured in all 13? I would guess that he is a cert to score against us since he hasn't done so since 2007 for us aginst Watford. The selling of dyer, was the start of our midfield looking slow and work man like. At least with dyer you knew you had someone who could run with the ball. It's okay being able to run with the ball but he can't do it whilst he's sat on the treatment table. If he's had stayed, it's probable in how things work he wouldn't of got that major injury, but I know where your coming from though. I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Howay man, the bloke was never fit! We got something like £8m, didn't we? Christ, that's over half a million per game, without even counting his wages! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I just read on .COM That Dyer is fit and could be chosen to play.... this is a joke right? Since he left us he has only started 13 games (and never scored). Can anyone tell me if he has ever finished any of those or has he gone off injured in all 13? I would guess that he is a cert to score against us since he hasn't done so since 2007 for us aginst Watford. The selling of dyer, was the start of our midfield looking slow and work man like. At least with dyer you knew you had someone who could run with the ball. It's okay being able to run with the ball but he can't do it whilst he's sat on the treatment table. If he's had stayed, it's probable in how things work he wouldn't of got that major injury, but I know where your coming from though. I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not Crazy talk. You bemoan Barton on a regular basis for taking 65k a week but are unsure if a player who had a shocking injury record and, was on a reported 80 grand a week basic wage should have been sold? Can you see the double standards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not Fucking hell. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I just read on .COM That Dyer is fit and could be chosen to play.... this is a joke right? Since he left us he has only started 13 games (and never scored). Can anyone tell me if he has ever finished any of those or has he gone off injured in all 13? I would guess that he is a cert to score against us since he hasn't done so since 2007 for us aginst Watford. The selling of dyer, was the start of our midfield looking slow and work man like. At least with dyer you knew you had someone who could run with the ball. It's okay being able to run with the ball but he can't do it whilst he's sat on the treatment table. If he's had stayed, it's probable in how things work he wouldn't of got that major injury, but I know where your coming from though. I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not Crazy talk. You bemoan Barton on a regular basis for taking 65k a week but are unsure if a player who had a shocking injury record and, was on a reported 80 grand a week basic wage should have been sold? Can you see the double standards? Right, getting a major injury is something that's usually a freak accident, that is what Dyer got, he got a broken leg, nothing like any of his usual hamstring or shin splints injuries. So it's likely if dyer had stayed he would of never of got his broken leg, in the same way in which barton or luque for example would of got their major injuries with us. I have other problems with Barton as well though, like his criminal record for starters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I just read on .COM That Dyer is fit and could be chosen to play.... this is a joke right? Since he left us he has only started 13 games (and never scored). Can anyone tell me if he has ever finished any of those or has he gone off injured in all 13? I would guess that he is a cert to score against us since he hasn't done so since 2007 for us aginst Watford. The selling of dyer, was the start of our midfield looking slow and work man like. At least with dyer you knew you had someone who could run with the ball. It's okay being able to run with the ball but he can't do it whilst he's sat on the treatment table. If he's had stayed, it's probable in how things work he wouldn't of got that major injury, but I know where your coming from though. I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not Crazy talk. You bemoan Barton on a regular basis for taking 65k a week but are unsure if a player who had a shocking injury record and, was on a reported 80 grand a week basic wage should have been sold? Can you see the double standards? Right, getting a major injury is something that's usually a freak accident, that is what Dyer got, he got a broken leg, nothing like any of his usual hamstring or shin splints injuries. So it's likely if dyer had stayed he would of never of got his broken leg, in the same way in which barton or luque for example would of got their major injuries with us. I have other problems with Barton as well though, like his criminal record for starters. You can't blame the 6 muscle strain / pull injuries he has had at West Ham on his broken leg. 5 hamstring injuries btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I just read on .COM That Dyer is fit and could be chosen to play.... this is a joke right? Since he left us he has only started 13 games (and never scored). Can anyone tell me if he has ever finished any of those or has he gone off injured in all 13? I would guess that he is a cert to score against us since he hasn't done so since 2007 for us aginst Watford. The selling of dyer, was the start of our midfield looking slow and work man like. At least with dyer you knew you had someone who could run with the ball. It's okay being able to run with the ball but he can't do it whilst he's sat on the treatment table. If he's had stayed, it's probable in how things work he wouldn't of got that major injury, but I know where your coming from though. I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not Crazy talk. You bemoan Barton on a regular basis for taking 65k a week but are unsure if a player who had a shocking injury record and, was on a reported 80 grand a week basic wage should have been sold? Can you see the double standards? Right, getting a major injury is something that's usually a freak accident, that is what Dyer got, he got a broken leg, nothing like any of his usual hamstring or shin splints injuries. So it's likely if dyer had stayed he would of never of got his broken leg, in the same way in which barton or luque for example would of got their major injuries with us. I have other problems with Barton as well though, like his criminal record for starters. But you highlight the fundamental flaw in your own argument. His USUAL injuries, he was notorious for not being able to string a run of games together because he was always injured. I don't debate the fact that had he stayed at Newcastle it's unlikely he'd have broken his leg, instead he'd have gone through a frustrating cycle of treatment table, reserve games, first team games, injury. Now you also highlight Barton's off field transgressions as a strike against him, something I can't argue he's been far from a model professional but, is Kieron Dyer really the kind of person you want to compare him with? A player who once famously pissed in the street, had total disregard for the fans who adored him, and I'd argue even topped Barton in the stupidity ranks by fighting with a team-mate on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I just read on .COM That Dyer is fit and could be chosen to play.... this is a joke right? Since he left us he has only started 13 games (and never scored). Can anyone tell me if he has ever finished any of those or has he gone off injured in all 13? I would guess that he is a cert to score against us since he hasn't done so since 2007 for us aginst Watford. The selling of dyer, was the start of our midfield looking slow and work man like. At least with dyer you knew you had someone who could run with the ball. It's okay being able to run with the ball but he can't do it whilst he's sat on the treatment table. If he's had stayed, it's probable in how things work he wouldn't of got that major injury, but I know where your coming from though. I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not Crazy talk. You bemoan Barton on a regular basis for taking 65k a week but are unsure if a player who had a shocking injury record and, was on a reported 80 grand a week basic wage should have been sold? Can you see the double standards? Right, getting a major injury is something that's usually a freak accident, that is what Dyer got, he got a broken leg, nothing like any of his usual hamstring or shin splints injuries. So it's likely if dyer had stayed he would of never of got his broken leg, in the same way in which barton or luque for example would of got their major injuries with us. I have other problems with Barton as well though, like his criminal record for starters. You can't blame the 6 muscle strain / pull injuries he has had at West Ham on his broken leg. 5 hamstring injuries btw. I didn't realise he had that many tbh. The point I'm saying is that the future would of been different if he had been at different clubs, just like in the same way with our signings that have gained major injuries i.e. Owen, Ben Arfa, Luque. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I just read on .COM That Dyer is fit and could be chosen to play.... this is a joke right? Since he left us he has only started 13 games (and never scored). Can anyone tell me if he has ever finished any of those or has he gone off injured in all 13? I would guess that he is a cert to score against us since he hasn't done so since 2007 for us aginst Watford. The selling of dyer, was the start of our midfield looking slow and work man like. At least with dyer you knew you had someone who could run with the ball. It's okay being able to run with the ball but he can't do it whilst he's sat on the treatment table. If he's had stayed, it's probable in how things work he wouldn't of got that major injury, but I know where your coming from though. I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not Crazy talk. You bemoan Barton on a regular basis for taking 65k a week but are unsure if a player who had a shocking injury record and, was on a reported 80 grand a week basic wage should have been sold? Can you see the double standards? Right, getting a major injury is something that's usually a freak accident, that is what Dyer got, he got a broken leg, nothing like any of his usual hamstring or shin splints injuries. So it's likely if dyer had stayed he would of never of got his broken leg, in the same way in which barton or luque for example would of got their major injuries with us. I have other problems with Barton as well though, like his criminal record for starters. But you highlight the fundamental flaw in your own argument. His USUAL injuries, he was notorious for not being able to string a run of games together because he was always injured. I don't debate the fact that had he stayed at Newcastle it's unlikely he'd have broken his leg, instead he'd have gone through a frustrating cycle of treatment table, reserve games, first team games, injury. Now you also highlight Barton's off field transgressions as a strike against him, something I can't argue he's been far from a model professional but, is Kieron Dyer really the kind of person you want to compare him with? A player who once famously pissed in the street, had total disregard for the fans who adored him, and I'd argue even topped Barton in the stupidity ranks by fighting with a team-mate on the pitch. I won't disagree with of most of that, i'm just coming in on this from a different viewpoint tbh, though I will on the point of the fight which was totally Lee Bowyer's fault which Dyer couldn't do much about at the time. Just had a look at Dyers record on Wikipedia, he actually played more games than what I thought he did for us tbh. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kieron_Dyer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Yes but as his body ages it gets harder to return from those injuries. I'd guarantee he would be no more prominent for us than he is for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Yes but as his body ages it gets harder to return from those injuries. I'd guarantee he would be no more prominent for us than he is for them. Tbf, the real problem was actually his replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I I just read on .COM That Dyer is fit and could be chosen to play.... this is a joke right? Since he left us he has only started 13 games (and never scored). Can anyone tell me if he has ever finished any of those or has he gone off injured in all 13? I would guess that he is a cert to score against us since he hasn't done so since 2007 for us aginst Watford. The selling of dyer, was the start of our midfield looking slow and work man like. At least with dyer you knew you had someone who could run with the ball. It's okay being able to run with the ball but he can't do it whilst he's sat on the treatment table. If he's had stayed, it's probable in how things work he wouldn't of got that major injury, but I know where your coming from though. I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not Crazy talk. You bemoan Barton on a regular basis for taking 65k a week but are unsure if a player who had a shocking injury record and, was on a reported 80 grand a week basic wage should have been sold? Can you see the double standards? Right, getting a major injury is something that's usually a freak accident, that is what Dyer got, he got a broken leg, nothing like any of his usual hamstring or shin splints injuries. So it's likely if dyer had stayed he would of never of got his broken leg, in the same way in which barton or luque for example would of got their major injuries with us. I have other problems with Barton as well though, like his criminal record for starters. But you highlight the fundamental flaw in your own argument. His USUAL injuries, he was notorious for not being able to string a run of games together because he was always injured. I don't debate the fact that had he stayed at Newcastle it's unlikely he'd have broken his leg, instead he'd have gone through a frustrating cycle of treatment table, reserve games, first team games, injury. Now you also highlight Barton's off field transgressions as a strike against him, something I can't argue he's been far from a model professional but, is Kieron Dyer really the kind of person you want to compare him with? A player who once famously pissed in the street, had total disregard for the fans who adored him, and I'd argue even topped Barton in the stupidity ranks by fighting with a team-mate on the pitch. To be fair, I regularly piss in the street. Also, didn't Dyer burn money in front of fans? If he did that's comparable to Barton in terms of sheer twattiness for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I I just read on .COM That Dyer is fit and could be chosen to play.... this is a joke right? Since he left us he has only started 13 games (and never scored). Can anyone tell me if he has ever finished any of those or has he gone off injured in all 13? I would guess that he is a cert to score against us since he hasn't done so since 2007 for us aginst Watford. The selling of dyer, was the start of our midfield looking slow and work man like. At least with dyer you knew you had someone who could run with the ball. It's okay being able to run with the ball but he can't do it whilst he's sat on the treatment table. If he's had stayed, it's probable in how things work he wouldn't of got that major injury, but I know where your coming from though. I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not Crazy talk. You bemoan Barton on a regular basis for taking 65k a week but are unsure if a player who had a shocking injury record and, was on a reported 80 grand a week basic wage should have been sold? Can you see the double standards? Right, getting a major injury is something that's usually a freak accident, that is what Dyer got, he got a broken leg, nothing like any of his usual hamstring or shin splints injuries. So it's likely if dyer had stayed he would of never of got his broken leg, in the same way in which barton or luque for example would of got their major injuries with us. I have other problems with Barton as well though, like his criminal record for starters. But you highlight the fundamental flaw in your own argument. His USUAL injuries, he was notorious for not being able to string a run of games together because he was always injured. I don't debate the fact that had he stayed at Newcastle it's unlikely he'd have broken his leg, instead he'd have gone through a frustrating cycle of treatment table, reserve games, first team games, injury. Now you also highlight Barton's off field transgressions as a strike against him, something I can't argue he's been far from a model professional but, is Kieron Dyer really the kind of person you want to compare him with? A player who once famously pissed in the street, had total disregard for the fans who adored him, and I'd argue even topped Barton in the stupidity ranks by fighting with a team-mate on the pitch. To be fair, I regularly piss in the street. Also, didn't Dyer burn money in front of fans? If he did that's comparable to Barton in terms of sheer twattiness for me. Dyer was a cunt to own his friends let a lone the fans. The money went to his head, and he believed that the £20m move to Man United was coming anytime now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I I just read on .COM That Dyer is fit and could be chosen to play.... this is a joke right? Since he left us he has only started 13 games (and never scored). Can anyone tell me if he has ever finished any of those or has he gone off injured in all 13? I would guess that he is a cert to score against us since he hasn't done so since 2007 for us aginst Watford. The selling of dyer, was the start of our midfield looking slow and work man like. At least with dyer you knew you had someone who could run with the ball. It's okay being able to run with the ball but he can't do it whilst he's sat on the treatment table. If he's had stayed, it's probable in how things work he wouldn't of got that major injury, but I know where your coming from though. I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not Crazy talk. You bemoan Barton on a regular basis for taking 65k a week but are unsure if a player who had a shocking injury record and, was on a reported 80 grand a week basic wage should have been sold? Can you see the double standards? Right, getting a major injury is something that's usually a freak accident, that is what Dyer got, he got a broken leg, nothing like any of his usual hamstring or shin splints injuries. So it's likely if dyer had stayed he would of never of got his broken leg, in the same way in which barton or luque for example would of got their major injuries with us. I have other problems with Barton as well though, like his criminal record for starters. But you highlight the fundamental flaw in your own argument. His USUAL injuries, he was notorious for not being able to string a run of games together because he was always injured. I don't debate the fact that had he stayed at Newcastle it's unlikely he'd have broken his leg, instead he'd have gone through a frustrating cycle of treatment table, reserve games, first team games, injury. Now you also highlight Barton's off field transgressions as a strike against him, something I can't argue he's been far from a model professional but, is Kieron Dyer really the kind of person you want to compare him with? A player who once famously pissed in the street, had total disregard for the fans who adored him, and I'd argue even topped Barton in the stupidity ranks by fighting with a team-mate on the pitch. To be fair, I regularly piss in the street. Also, didn't Dyer burn money in front of fans? If he did that's comparable to Barton in terms of sheer twattiness for me. Dyer was a cunt to own his friends let a lone the fans. The money went to his head, and he believed that the £20m move to Man United was coming anytime now. Dyer was always someone who got backed by his managers now matter what, he got far too much backing from them imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I I just read on .COM That Dyer is fit and could be chosen to play.... this is a joke right? Since he left us he has only started 13 games (and never scored). Can anyone tell me if he has ever finished any of those or has he gone off injured in all 13? I would guess that he is a cert to score against us since he hasn't done so since 2007 for us aginst Watford. The selling of dyer, was the start of our midfield looking slow and work man like. At least with dyer you knew you had someone who could run with the ball. It's okay being able to run with the ball but he can't do it whilst he's sat on the treatment table. If he's had stayed, it's probable in how things work he wouldn't of got that major injury, but I know where your coming from though. I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not Crazy talk. You bemoan Barton on a regular basis for taking 65k a week but are unsure if a player who had a shocking injury record and, was on a reported 80 grand a week basic wage should have been sold? Can you see the double standards? Right, getting a major injury is something that's usually a freak accident, that is what Dyer got, he got a broken leg, nothing like any of his usual hamstring or shin splints injuries. So it's likely if dyer had stayed he would of never of got his broken leg, in the same way in which barton or luque for example would of got their major injuries with us. I have other problems with Barton as well though, like his criminal record for starters. But you highlight the fundamental flaw in your own argument. His USUAL injuries, he was notorious for not being able to string a run of games together because he was always injured. I don't debate the fact that had he stayed at Newcastle it's unlikely he'd have broken his leg, instead he'd have gone through a frustrating cycle of treatment table, reserve games, first team games, injury. Now you also highlight Barton's off field transgressions as a strike against him, something I can't argue he's been far from a model professional but, is Kieron Dyer really the kind of person you want to compare him with? A player who once famously pissed in the street, had total disregard for the fans who adored him, and I'd argue even topped Barton in the stupidity ranks by fighting with a team-mate on the pitch. To be fair, I regularly piss in the street. Also, didn't Dyer burn money in front of fans? If he did that's comparable to Barton in terms of sheer twattiness for me. Dyer was a c*** to own his friends let a lone the fans. The money went to his head, and he believed that the £20m move to Man United was coming anytime now. care to expand (even by pm), just i've said it before i regularly saw him and titus in town and they were so timid after the intitial glare had worn off (yes they were annoying at first) but then became like kids, always at the cinema and hiding in corners in pubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Lose 2-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not f***ing hell. :lol: Could be the worst post in NO history, £7m for injury ravaged Dyer is 50-50 whether its good business? On that basic its 50-50 whether Luque was good value! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 The Dyer sale was amazing, and West Ham were mental to buy him. He's barely graced a football pitch since man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 crazy when you think that they bought an entire midfield from us in a matter of weeks solano parker, bowyer and dyer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not f***ing hell. :lol: Could be the worst post in NO history, £7m for injury ravaged Dyer is 50-50 whether its good business? On that basic its 50-50 whether Luque was good value! Read the following posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I did thanks, doesnt make the original one any less absurd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I just read on .COM That Dyer is fit and could be chosen to play.... this is a joke right? Since he left us he has only started 13 games (and never scored). Can anyone tell me if he has ever finished any of those or has he gone off injured in all 13? I would guess that he is a cert to score against us since he hasn't done so since 2007 for us aginst Watford. The selling of dyer, was the start of our midfield looking slow and work man like. At least with dyer you knew you had someone who could run with the ball. It's okay being able to run with the ball but he can't do it whilst he's sat on the treatment table. If he's had stayed, it's probable in how things work he wouldn't of got that major injury, but I know where your coming from though. I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not The 10 inch of scar tissue in his leg he has had reduced to 1 inch would still be there, and he would still be suffering from hamstring problems. We were right to sell him, we got a good price. We were wrong to replace him with the likes of Geremi and Smith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 100% correct Ste Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I just read on .COM That Dyer is fit and could be chosen to play.... this is a joke right? Since he left us he has only started 13 games (and never scored). Can anyone tell me if he has ever finished any of those or has he gone off injured in all 13? I would guess that he is a cert to score against us since he hasn't done so since 2007 for us aginst Watford. The selling of dyer, was the start of our midfield looking slow and work man like. At least with dyer you knew you had someone who could run with the ball. It's okay being able to run with the ball but he can't do it whilst he's sat on the treatment table. If he's had stayed, it's probable in how things work he wouldn't of got that major injury, but I know where your coming from though. I'm still 50-50 whether it was good business or not The 10 inch of scar tissue in his leg he has had reduced to 1 inch would still be there, and he would still be suffering from hamstring problems. We were right to sell him, we got a good price. We were wrong to replace him with the likes of Geremi and Smith. This - Dyer was a Rolls Royce of a player when he was at his best,unfortunately he had the build quality of a yugo zasastava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Selling Dyer was a brilliant move. Not that I want to start a Dyer debate again, but even at his 'peak' he was hideously overrated. As people have pointed out - he is now bound to score against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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