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I don't think there was any need for him to publicly make that comment about Enrique's Twitter.

 

He could have dealt with it internally.

 

Same with the Ranger stuff. I agree with 'Pards' seniment but he seems too keen to air things that like you say can stay within the realms of internal club politics

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I don't think there was any need for him to publicly make that comment about Enrique's Twitter.

 

He could have dealt with it internally.

 

Same with the Ranger stuff. I agree with 'Pards' seniment but he seems too keen to air things that like you say can stay within the realms of internal club politics

 

It's something I loved about Hughton, he kept everything in-house and didn't give anything away to the media. Pardew is an idiot that gets into fights on the touchline, makes ridiculous comments and just doesn't command respect.

 

There's just no point to this appointment.

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If we do get a good result, I hope Pardew gets some credit. I just fear though that every bad result will be "get the useless bastard out!" and every good result will be "it's Hughton's side!"

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Even by Ashley's standards Pardew's appointment was a bizarre decision. But I'm not passing judgement on anything that's happened under him so far. Very good result against Liverpool (arguably not much to do with him)  and, although any loss is disapointing, the other two matches simply went to the form teams. Starting on Sunday we go into a decent sequence of matches that we should be looking to get something from. We'll get an idea of what AP is made of in the coming weeks.

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If we do get a good result, I hope Pardew gets some credit. I just fear though that every bad result will be "get the useless bastard out!" and every good result will be "it's Hughton's side!"

 

Its formations, decisions during games and media comments that will sway my opinion either way.

 

Very disappointed with the approach to the Spurs and Man City games. He must go 2 up front vs Wigan

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If we do get a good result, I hope Pardew gets some credit. I just fear though that every bad result will be "get the useless b****** out!" and every good result will be "it's Hughton's side!"

 

Its formations, decisions during games and media comments that will sway my opinion either way.

 

Very disappointed with the approach to the Spurs and Man City games. He must go 2 up front vs Wigan

 

Lovenkrands has been shit when started

Ranger hasnt started, and nothing apart from a couple of last minute runs exploiting his pace and fresh legs has made me think he warrants a start.

Best is at best average

 

I think its only fair he is judged when he has all of his strongest players availible to him as we just dont have the strength in depths particularly up front and at LB to plug the gaps

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If we do get a good result, I hope Pardew gets some credit. I just fear though that every bad result will be "get the useless b****** out!" and every good result will be "it's Hughton's side!"

 

Its formations, decisions during games and media comments that will sway my opinion either way.

 

Very disappointed with the approach to the Spurs and Man City games. He must go 2 up front vs Wigan

 

Lovenkrands has been shit when started

Ranger hasnt started, and nothing apart from a couple of last minute runs exploiting his pace and fresh legs has made me think he warrants a start.

Best is at best average

 

I think its only fair he is judged when he has all of his strongest players availible to him as we just dont have the strength in depths particularly up front and at LB to plug the gaps

 

Its all well and good saying our forwards bar AC are shite, but if you play 5 in the middle you need at least one of the 5 making the runs to play off the striker.

 

Especially against Spurs there was often a good 50 yards between Carroll and our nearest midfielder, and thats down to the managers instructions

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If we do get a good result, I hope Pardew gets some credit. I just fear though that every bad result will be "get the useless b****** out!" and every good result will be "it's Hughton's side!"

 

Its formations, decisions during games and media comments that will sway my opinion either way.

 

Very disappointed with the approach to the Spurs and Man City games. He must go 2 up front vs Wigan

 

I'm pretty sure it will be 4-4-2 against Wigan

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Lovenkrands has been s*** when started

Ranger hasnt started, and nothing apart from a couple of last minute runs exploiting his pace and fresh legs has made me think he warrants a start.

Best is at best average

 

I think its only fair he is judged when he has all of his strongest players availible to him as we just dont have the strength in depths particularly up front and at LB to plug the gaps

 

Like every manager he should be judged on every game.  If he plays a weakened team and wins he'll be judged on it in the same was as if he plays a strong team that loses he'll be judged on that.  You can't pick and choose which matches are the ones to form an opinion of him, that's the sort of stuff people used to defend Souness when he was here.

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We aren't going to be spending loads of money though, and never were. Why then shouldn't he be judged on getting more out of this squad than Hughton would have?

 

For me we will make a couple of key signings in January which will be LB competition for Jose and a partner for Carroll

 

I think this will make a huge difference to our effectiveness and our ability to have a different avenue to explore when posing an attacking threat.

 

Hughton never got anything out of the likes of Perch and Smith and because of their obvious lack of quality i doubt Pardew will be able to either. In fact, goal apart, i think theres an arguement that that was 'Perchies' best  game in a black and white (ok Blue) shirt

 

I think as long as Pardew can get the same out of the Bartons, Carrolls, Nolans, Jose's, Tiotes of this world as Hughton did, and nothing so far has suggested he cant, he will finish the league in a relatively comfortable position

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If we do get a good result, I hope Pardew gets some credit. I just fear though that every bad result will be "get the useless b****** out!" and every good result will be "it's Hughton's side!"

 

Its formations, decisions during games and media comments that will sway my opinion either way.

 

Very disappointed with the approach to the Spurs and Man City games. He must go 2 up front vs Wigan

 

Lovenkrands has been s*** when started

Ranger hasnt started, and nothing apart from a couple of last minute runs exploiting his pace and fresh legs has made me think he warrants a start.

Best is at best average

 

I think its only fair he is judged when he has all of his strongest players availible to him as we just dont have the strength in depths particularly up front and at LB to plug the gaps

 

Its all well and good saying our forwards bar AC are s****, but if you play 5 in the middle you need at least one of the 5 making the runs to play off the striker.

 

Especially against Spurs there was often a good 50 yards between Carroll and our nearest midfielder, and thats down to the managers instructions

 

Barton would have been most peoples choice to play that position from the players he had at his disposal, but Joey isnt that Marauding CM in the Gerrard mode that he maybe once was in his early city days. Out of the others, Guthrie, Tiote and Smith who were availible he chose the right one to play there, as he wasnt comfortable plaing one of the other strikers with Carroll and to be honest i dont blame him

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For me we will make a couple of key signings in January which will be LB competition for Jose and a partner for Carroll

 

I think this will make a huge difference to our effectiveness and our ability to have a different avenue to explore when posing an attacking threat.

 

Hughton never got anything out of the likes of Perch and Smith and because of their obvious lack of quality i doubt Pardew will be able to either. In fact, goal apart, i think theres an arguement that that was 'Perchies' best  game in a black and white (ok Blue) shirt

 

I think as long as Pardew can get the same out of the Bartons, Carrolls, Nolans, Jose's, Tiotes of this world as Hughton did, and nothing so far has suggested he cant, he will finish the league in a relatively comfortable position

 

Pardew couldn't get the best out of Teves and Mascherano, he's got no chance with Smith and Perch.

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For me we will make a couple of key signings in January which will be LB competition for Jose and a partner for Carroll

 

I think this will make a huge difference to our effectiveness and our ability to have a different avenue to explore when posing an attacking threat.

 

Hughton never got anything out of the likes of Perch and Smith and because of their obvious lack of quality i doubt Pardew will be able to either. In fact, goal apart, i think theres an arguement that that was 'Perchies' best  game in a black and white (ok Blue) shirt

 

I think as long as Pardew can get the same out of the Bartons, Carrolls, Nolans, Jose's, Tiotes of this world as Hughton did, and nothing so far has suggested he cant, he will finish the league in a relatively comfortable position

 

Pardew couldn't get the best out of Teves and Mascherano, he's got no chance with Smith and Perch.

 

Forget Smith and Perch, at the moment all Pardew needs to do is get the best out of Barton, Carroll and Williamson. That's all Hughton had to work with and we managed to play some half decent stuff with them in the team before. We've had blips before so there is no point in knee-jerking, but as has been mentioned before, I hope we aren't going to go through the process of Pardew learning about his players...stuff which most of us have been well aware of for a long time.

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Harsh RE Tevez and Mascherano, both were forced on him by the owners half way through a season and he had no knowledge of their abilities and how they would help or disrupt his side.

 

He had 2 class players on his hands and didn't recognise it, I don't see how that is harsh at all.  Teves was hardly unknown when he was brought over to this country.

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For me we will make a couple of key signings in January which will be LB competition for Jose and a partner for Carroll

 

I think this will make a huge difference to our effectiveness and our ability to have a different avenue to explore when posing an attacking threat.

 

Hughton never got anything out of the likes of Perch and Smith and because of their obvious lack of quality i doubt Pardew will be able to either. In fact, goal apart, i think theres an arguement that that was 'Perchies' best  game in a black and white (ok Blue) shirt

 

I think as long as Pardew can get the same out of the Bartons, Carrolls, Nolans, Jose's, Tiotes of this world as Hughton did, and nothing so far has suggested he cant, he will finish the league in a relatively comfortable position

 

Pardew couldn't get the best out of Teves and Mascherano, he's got no chance with Smith and Perch.

 

Forget Smith and Perch, at the moment all Pardew needs to do is get the best out of Barton, Carroll and Williamson. That's all Hughton had to work with and we managed to play some half decent stuff with them in the team before. We've had blips before so there is no point in knee-jerking, but as has been mentioned before, I hope we aren't going to go through the process of Pardew learning about his players...stuff which most of us have been well aware of for a long time.

 

Wonder whether he has made that phone call to Hughton yet :)

 

If not it could save him a lot of time and points

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Forget Smith and Perch, at the moment all Pardew needs to do is get the best out of Barton, Carroll and Williamson. That's all Hughton had to work with and we managed to play some half decent stuff with them in the team before. We've had blips before so there is no point in knee-jerking, but as has been mentioned before, I hope we aren't going to go through the process of Pardew learning about his players...stuff which most of us have been well aware of for a long time.

 

He's not going to get the best out of Williamson on the bench.

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Harsh RE Tevez and Mascherano, both were forced on him by the owners half way through a season and he had no knowledge of their abilities and how they would help or disrupt his side.

 

He had 2 class players on his hands and didn't recognise it, I don't see how that is harsh at all.  Teves was hardly unknown when he was brought over to this country.

 

Agreed. He wasn't our manager then but my impression of him during that time was he was a clueless loudmouth a la Graeme Souness. He should be given time to prove it's not the case but it's up to him to change that perception. A manager who can't recognise a class player at his own club really must be dense in all honesty.

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