Darth Crooks Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 To be fair, if he is any sort of self-respecting professional, which I think he probably is, he'll be really disappointed with the way things panned out ....or he won't give a toss and laugh his way to the bank regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Finish top half, above sunderland, that was his goal. He didnt meet it. The very best you can say about Pardew is that he is a disappointment, not a disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 That contract he has, apparently money based upon league position? I have it on good authority that Pardew is currently on the phone to the local builders telling them to cancel to kitchen extension. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Finish top half, above sunderland, that was his goal. He didnt meet it. The very best you can say about Pardew is that he is a disappointment, not a disaster. Maybe a bit harsh. The performance against west brom improved, sort of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 The main thing he got wrong today was giving (an absolutely shameful) Ameobi 90 minutes. I could understand the Lua Lua swap for Ferguson, because as Rich said, the lad had largely burned out after a decent 60 minutes. Smith for Lovenkrands would make sense if Smith was remotely capable of performing as a defensive-midfielder, but again, i could see why the switch was made. Best should have been on a lot sooner, however, and it should have been for Shola. But the players should have still held their concentration for the remaining part of the game. Generally pathetic on their part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Would have been nice to play Tiote, a fit player that Pardew reckons he didn't have. Cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Would have been nice to play Tiote, a fit player that Pardew reckons he didn't have. Cunt. I think we've learned from Stevenage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 His substitutions and the players lacklustre defending cost us this game. Shola should have been off an absolute age before he was, Best should have been on much earlier and Smith should have been in Austrailia. Or on the moon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Fucking dismantle the cunt limb by limb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Paid the price for thinking the game was done and it would be a good idea to bring on some rusty legs. Highly sloppy, big black mark against him and he'll be rightly fuming that we've tossed away a top half finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Not a Pardew fan, but today's match had little relevance tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 12th when he was appointed, 12th at the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 12th when he was appointed, 12th at the end of the season. With the players we have had on the pitch for the 2nd half of the season we have overachieved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 12th when he was appointed, 12th at the end of the season. With the players we have had on the pitch for the 2nd half of the season we have overachieved This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 With the players we have had on the pitch for the 2nd half of the season we have overachieved He was partially to blame for being in the position of weakness by having a hand in us selling one of our most important players and bringing nothing in to add to what we had. I'm not even sure we've over achieved either, we've beat Wigan, West Ham, Birmingham x 2, Wolves and Liverpool. The Liverpool game was his first in charge and the players said it was for Hughton. Out of the 5 teams we've won against, 4 were in the bottom 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Mick man, give it a rest. We all know that under Ashley, our managers don't have the final say regarding transfers. Read the KK judgement again, it's all there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 With the players we have had on the pitch for the 2nd half of the season we have overachieved He was partially to blame for being in the position of weakness by having a hand in us selling one of our most important players and bringing nothing in to add to what we had. I'm not even sure we've over achieved either, we've beat Wigan, West Ham, Birmingham x 2, Wolves and Liverpool. The Liverpool game was his first in charge and the players said it was for Hughton. Out of the 5 teams we've won against, 4 were in the bottom 5. That bollocks Mick He had no say it was a board decision. All of the teams you have listed have had a better strikeforce than us for the 2nd half. 12th with the squad we have had availible is a good effort Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 So who does Otter? Don't remember anyone suggesting Hughton didn't sign his own players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 With the players we have had on the pitch for the 2nd half of the season we have overachieved He was partially to blame for being in the position of weakness by having a hand in us selling one of our most important players and bringing nothing in to add to what we had. I'm not even sure we've over achieved either, we've beat Wigan, West Ham, Birmingham x 2, Wolves and Liverpool. The Liverpool game was his first in charge and the players said it was for Hughton. Out of the 5 teams we've won against, 4 were in the bottom 5. What, the same bottom end teams Hughton didn't manage to beat at home? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 WAHEY! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Mick man, give it a rest. We all know that under Ashley, our managers don't have the final say regarding transfers. Read the KK judgement again, it's all there. Yet Kinnear said he had final say and only Keegan has claimed that he didn't. Only this week we have been told that one of the reasons Hughton was sacked was because he brought Campbell in. Has Pardew ever said he has or hasn't got final say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 That bollocks Mick He had no say it was a board decision. All of the teams you have listed have had a better strikeforce than us for the 2nd half. 12th with the squad we have had availible is a good effort Yer Pardew claims that HE told Carroll to hand in his transfer in writing. Pardew claims that HE was asked if we should accept an earlier bid from Liverpool. Nothing has been said about the final bid but I don't see why he would be involved earlier and not at the end. What about players coming in? Football is a team game, it's not just about who plays up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 What, the same bottom end teams Hughton didn't manage to beat at home? Hughton didn't have a chance of beating West Ham, Wolves or Birmingham at home as far as I can remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 In terms of recruitment, I do think our managers go to the board for authority to sign players and they (ie Llambias/ Ashley) make assessment on whether the player would be a good acquisition based on a number of factors like age, wages and most importantly whether they will retain their value. In terms of outgoings, if its a money spinner then Llambias/ Ashley will green light the sale no matter what the manager says and whoever that manager may be. I refuse to consider that the £35million bid arrived and Ashley/ Llambias said "It's a great price but Alan you're the boss, it's your call." They sold him above and beyond his head and any waffle that Pardew came out with in the press was just lip service to the idea that he wasn't simply doing what he was told. If he'd come out and publically said "Don't blame me, I wanted to keep Andy but my boss told me we had to sell him" it would have blown any chance Pardew had whatsoever of having a working relationship with his employer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 What, the same bottom end teams Hughton didn't manage to beat at home? Hughton didn't have a chance of beating West Ham, Wolves or Birmingham at home as far as I can remember. He had a chance of beating Stoke, Wigan, Blackpool and Blackburn at home - teams we finished above quite comfortably. We got 1 point from 12, and even that was last-ditch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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