Jayson Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I doubt that decision was taken 12 days ago myself. Outside of that, there really isnt much of a solid argument for spending lots on a striker at this point. Scoring goals has not been our issue this season & Ben Arfa hasnt even been given a go yet. Outside of that Best was part of a partnership that got us up to 3rd regardless of current form. I dont see them seeing this as the place they need to spend & i dont much blame them. 15 days ago Maiga had a medical with us, 12 days ago it was announced that the transfer was off because of a failed medical. Best was the non-scoring portion of the partnership that got us to 3rd. As i said, given Ba's form i doubt Maiga became the priority he once was. I also doubt the severity of any issues he has. Best is the reason for much of Ba's earlier form. He either directly or indirectly assisted many of his goals. Either way, i imagine theyll see him as a solid bench option at the least. Scoring goals has not been our issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 They've been workin on maiga for a long time, we wont bring anyone in unless it's on the cheap unless it's someone we've been working on a long time, we'll bring a defender in most liely, we'll probably not do as well as we could, but our policy is what it is and its why we generally for the most part now bring in very good players for average player money. How many of our summer transfers are very good players? I would say 2 have worked out as being very good, 3 have a lot to do before even being classed as good. How many have been proved to be shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 They've been workin on maiga for a long time, we wont bring anyone in unless it's on the cheap unless it's someone we've been working on a long time, we'll bring a defender in most liely, we'll probably not do as well as we could, but our policy is what it is and its why we generally for the most part now bring in very good players for average player money. How many of our summer transfers are very good players? I would say 2 have worked out as being very good, 3 have a lot to do before even being classed as good. Definitely 2. The other 3 have potential, 1 more so than the other two, but for differing reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 What room does do we have for another top striker? He doesnt want Ben Arfa on the wing & Ba is playing quality. Theyve simply changed their minds over needing one. Ba's form is whats done it. If we sign a striker, itll be someone whos willing to sit on the bench. Why were we apparently going to buy Maiga then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 What room does do we have for another top striker? He doesnt want Ben Arfa on the wing & Ba is playing quality. Theyve simply changed their minds over needing one. Ba's form is whats done it. If we sign a striker, itll be someone whos willing to sit on the bench. Why were we apparently going to buy Maiga then? to plaqy 2 up front if we want and more importantly an upgrade on best/shola/loven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 What room does do we have for another top striker? He doesnt want Ben Arfa on the wing & Ba is playing quality. Theyve simply changed their minds over needing one. Ba's form is whats done it. If we sign a striker, itll be someone whos willing to sit on the bench. Why were we apparently going to buy Maiga then? to plaqy 2 up front if we want and more importantly an upgrade on best/shola/loven. We still have room for another striker then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 What room does do we have for another top striker? He doesnt want Ben Arfa on the wing & Ba is playing quality. Theyve simply changed their minds over needing one. Ba's form is whats done it. If we sign a striker, itll be someone whos willing to sit on the bench. Why were we apparently going to buy Maiga then? to plaqy 2 up front if we want and more importantly an upgrade on best/shola/loven. We still have room for another striker then. i never said we didn't, wouldn't be a priority though for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 How many have been proved to be s*** None yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 That depends on if we're going to persist with Best/Ameobi alongside Ba, or if we play Ben Arfa behind him. Why would that have changed since our last target failed a medical? Because if we'd signed Maiga, chances are we'd have played Ba-Maiga up front, now we haven't, it's down to Ba-Best/Shola or a change of system to Ba-HBA. The way I see it is that, had we signed Maiga, it would have seen us changing the system to 4-3-3. Ba would have been upfront on his own with Ben Arfa and Maiga as supporting forwards (think this was Pardew's plan in pre-season until Ben Arfa got injured). Though for me atm, I definitely prefer the Ba-Ben Arfa partnership upfront. Even if we had Maiga/a new striker on our books, Ba-HBA would still be my preferred attacking option. But one thing's for sure, Maiga would have been an upgrade on Best/Shola/Lovenkrands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 i never said we didn't, wouldn't be a priority though for me. What would be your priority? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 What room does do we have for another top striker? He doesnt want Ben Arfa on the wing & Ba is playing quality. Theyve simply changed their minds over needing one. Ba's form is whats done it. If we sign a striker, itll be someone whos willing to sit on the bench. Why were we apparently going to buy Maiga then? Combination of the amount of work put in, 6 million not being a huge fee, his desperation to join & play for us making it easier for us to potentially bench him in future? Who knows. Seems dodgy that they supposedly had other specialists instantly do tests following ours & they confirmed him to be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 What room does do we have for another top striker? He doesnt want Ben Arfa on the wing & Ba is playing quality. Theyve simply changed their minds over needing one. Ba's form is whats done it. If we sign a striker, itll be someone whos willing to sit on the bench. Why were we apparently going to buy Maiga then? Combination of the amount of work put in, 6 million not being a huge fee, his desperation to join & play for us making it easier for us to potentially bench him in future? Who knows. Seems dodgy that they supposedly had other specialists instantly do tests following ours & they confirmed him to be fine. fairly sure if we pulled out on mediacal grounds they could take legal action if they could prove we were lying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 i never said we didn't, wouldn't be a priority though for me. What would be your priority? strong flexable defender, comfortable at centre half and full back, maybe even a cheaper back up (or loan) for there aswell. if everyone were fit i'd have been looking for the third central midfielder to go into the first team alongside tiote and cabaye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 What room does do we have for another top striker? He doesnt want Ben Arfa on the wing & Ba is playing quality. Theyve simply changed their minds over needing one. Ba's form is whats done it. If we sign a striker, itll be someone whos willing to sit on the bench. Why were we apparently going to buy Maiga then? Combination of the amount of work put in, 6 million not being a huge fee, his desperation to join & play for us making it easier for us to potentially bench him in future? Who knows. Seems dodgy that they supposedly had other specialists instantly do tests following ours & they confirmed him to be fine. fairly sure if we pulled out on mediacal grounds they could take legal action if they could prove we were lying. How so? We could say we're not happy with anything, but as far as I'm aware we haven't commented at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 strong flexable defender, comfortable at centre half and full back, maybe even a cheaper back up (or loan) for there aswell. if everyone were fit i'd have been looking for the third central midfielder to go into the first team alongside tiote and cabaye. This is going on in 2 threads so I'll leave this one for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 strong flexable defender, comfortable at centre half and full back, maybe even a cheaper back up (or loan) for there aswell. if everyone were fit i'd have been looking for the third central midfielder to go into the first team alongside tiote and cabaye. This is going on in 2 threads so I'll leave this one for now. aye. gonna have to go in the bath and hope it works wonders on my aches and strains. gonna miss the end of the old firm game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 A strong centre back is surely our number 1 priority, the James Perch days were grim. Before - The Premier League's tightest defense... http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1108/76827011.png After - Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 No coincidence we won without him in the team. More of a liability than Boumsong on his worst day, who I'd rather play 4 of at the back than see him pull on the shirt again. </hate> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I doubt that decision was taken 12 days ago myself. Outside of that, there really isnt much of a solid argument for spending lots on a striker at this point. Scoring goals has not been our issue this season & Ben Arfa hasnt even been given a go yet. Outside of that Best was part of a partnership that got us up to 3rd regardless of current form. I dont see them seeing this as the place they need to spend & i dont much blame them. 15 days ago Maiga had a medical with us, 12 days ago it was announced that the transfer was off because of a failed medical. Best was the non-scoring portion of the partnership that got us to 3rd. Best is the reason for much of Ba's earlier form. He either directly or indirectly assisted many of his goals. Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Yep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Pardew fears Newcastle remain vulnerable to another megabucks bid for the likes of Ba, Cheik Tiote or Yohan Cabaye. He added: "You can say you don't want any last-minute business but you're just as vulnerable in this latest transfer window to a sovereign state coming in and giving you an oil well. "Every Premier League manager is — apart from Roberto Mancini at Manchester City." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Yep Wouldn't mind seeing some stats to back that up, seems a bit too generous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Yet more dialogue from Pardew that doesn't say hands off as much as putting out a for sale sign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Well done falling for Pardew's clever mind games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 “The Andy Carroll sale did us no favours, so we will not be accepting that last-minute stuff any more,” said the Newcastle manager, whose side will face Carroll, along with fellow former Toon stars Jose Enrique and Craig Bellamy, at Anfield tomorrow night. “But as much as you can say you don’t want last-minute business, you are still vulnerable to a sovereign state coming in and giving you an oil well! “So I’m never going to say never. “The point we are making is that if you are wanting to do business with us, then give us a chance. That’s basically the message we are giving.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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