littlelunchbox Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Today was his fault. 1) Making negative subs at a precarious 2-1 2) Making 2 subs before a very dangerous set piece 3) Sending on Shola to make it 4-4-2 waaaaaaaaay too late i have no problems with him making negative subs, that fact was, he never made any subs at all until it was too late. at half time I personally would have brought an extra midfielder on as Ba simply did fuck all to help out our midfield as it was complete over-ran by Wolves. Besides we needing another body in there to make up for the complete lack of movement in midfield it was fucking horrible. managers like Mourinho had like the biggest balls ever even with his huge ego he had no problems with acknowledging his own mistake and make subs in the first half to sort things out. Pardew is either stupid or too arrogant to make changes, we seen it at fulham how we threw it away, seen it vs swansea, wBA, norwich, when we simply werent effective yet he just doesnt react, make the change you silver haired twat, really im starting to doubt whether he's even a decent manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 he's a frustrating manager, that guy from espn has got it right, he said when pardew was at west ham they did not play attractive football , it was direct, hoof long ball, he said that about everyone of pardews teams play the exact same way. he also said Alan Pardew was a con man, the type that would tell you his teams play attractive football but in actual fact its just direct football. And also called Pardew an Egomaniac. skip forward to 12:50 http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/61504.html?genre=6;sport=3 Wow, never seen that. The bald bloke is scarily accurate with what we have found out about Pardew during his time here. Ive seen him constantly go on about his teams have always played good football etc. When in reality since the day he took over we have been a long ball team. It worked when we had the Carroll-Barton-nolan thing going. Then with Best and Shola. Then with Ba and Shola. But as we saw today, long ball is just not going to work with Ba and Cisse. So unless he decides to bench Cisse for Shola we need to change and adapt to our new and better players. except we haven't been a hoof ball team in general. no denying we have done it at times but in general we haven't. i'll give pardew the benefit so far in that we are doing well, table wise, and i can understand why, if that continues he'd stick with it. his big questions will come if the results stoop coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Wouldn't dare to say this board is representative of the entire Newcastle fanbase (although it certainly houses some strange contingents!) but with a decent section of Newcastle fans growing sceptical of Pardew for the first time since his appointment, this derby game is pretty timely. A loss/tactical mess and murmurs of discontent will escalate into something more dangerous, a win with a tactical masterstroke and he'll be sitting pretty for at least until the summer. You can't (or rather you probably shouldn't!) judge a manager in one game, but as far as they go the next one is pretty massive for Pardew. Does he have the stones/quality to make the right choices and coach us the right way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkzter Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Wouldn't dare to say this board is representative of the entire Newcastle fanbase (although it certainly houses some strange contingents!) but with a decent section of Newcastle fans growing sceptical of Pardew for the first time since his appointment, this derby game is pretty timely. A loss/tactical mess and murmurs of discontent will escalate into something more dangerous, a win with a tactical masterstroke and he'll be sitting pretty for at least until the summer. You can't (or rather you probably shouldn't!) judge a manager in one game, but as far as they go the next one is pretty massive for Pardew. Does he have the stones/quality to make the right choices and coach us the right way? This is pretty much bang on, get beat next week and he will really start to feel the heat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Pre-emptive - I'm not saying that's how I think things should be (in terms of his backing) btw, just the way I think things will work out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 If we get beat and people start getting on his back the media will murder us considering where we are in the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 he's a frustrating manager, that guy from espn has got it right, he said when pardew was at west ham they did not play attractive football , it was direct, hoof long ball, he said that about everyone of pardews teams play the exact same way. he also said Alan Pardew was a con man, the type that would tell you his teams play attractive football but in actual fact its just direct football. And also called Pardew an Egomaniac. skip forward to 12:50 http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/61504.html?genre=6;sport=3 Wow, never seen that. The bald bloke is scarily accurate with what we have found out about Pardew during his time here. Ive seen him constantly go on about his teams have always played good football etc. When in reality since the day he took over we have been a long ball team. It worked when we had the Carroll-Barton-nolan thing going. Then with Best and Shola. Then with Ba and Shola. But as we saw today, long ball is just not going to work with Ba and Cisse. So unless he decides to bench Cisse for Shola we need to change and adapt to our new and better players. except we haven't been a hoof ball team in general. no denying we have done it at times but in general we haven't. i'll give pardew the benefit so far in that we are doing well, table wise, and i can understand why, if that continues he'd stick with it. his big questions will come if the results stoop coming. We haven't been a hoofball team or a passing team. That's probably one of the reasons Pardew keeps chopping and changing formations, because he isn't really sure how to put the players at his disposal to the best use. The team selections, formations, tactics and substitutions seem to change every week as he grasps for the best way to make use of the players available to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 he's a frustrating manager, that guy from espn has got it right, he said when pardew was at west ham they did not play attractive football , it was direct, hoof long ball, he said that about everyone of pardews teams play the exact same way. he also said Alan Pardew was a con man, the type that would tell you his teams play attractive football but in actual fact its just direct football. And also called Pardew an Egomaniac. skip forward to 12:50 http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/61504.html?genre=6;sport=3 Wow, never seen that. The bald bloke is scarily accurate with what we have found out about Pardew during his time here. Ive seen him constantly go on about his teams have always played good football etc. When in reality since the day he took over we have been a long ball team. It worked when we had the Carroll-Barton-nolan thing going. Then with Best and Shola. Then with Ba and Shola. But as we saw today, long ball is just not going to work with Ba and Cisse. So unless he decides to bench Cisse for Shola we need to change and adapt to our new and better players. except we haven't been a hoof ball team in general. no denying we have done it at times but in general we haven't. i'll give pardew the benefit so far in that we are doing well, table wise, and i can understand why, if that continues he'd stick with it. his big questions will come if the results stoop coming. We haven't been a hoofball team or a passing team. That's probably one of the reasons Pardew keeps chopping and changing formations, because he isn't really sure how to put the players at his disposal to the best use. The team selections, formations, tactics and substitutions seem to change every week as he grasps for the best way to make use of the players available to him. maybe mixing it has worked so far, or taking a horses for courses approach has worked. can get you so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Can't believe we couldn't beat fucking Wolves at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Can't believe we couldn't beat f***ing Wolves at home. can you believe we beat man utd so convincingly ? thats NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Can't believe we couldn't beat fucking Wolves at home. This. Say what u like but clearing a 2 goal lead to anyone is awful but to Wolves is disgraceful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I’m not overly concerned – we look like we’ve got a goal threat up front and on the defensive side of it we just need to adjust a little bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Pardew and his lets keep this lead tactics are really starting to piss me off. If we don't have a team that can play Wolves off the park then we don't have a team to play anyone in the Premiership and Championship to. It's pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Mid season poll reset would be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I'm not bothered about the Wolves game in isolation. In their last two Prem away games they got draws at WHL and the Emirates. They're a feisty side on the road against "bigger" sides. The malaise I feel about us is about the ongoing and aggregated lack of performances over the season. This non-performance is of course the latest chapter in a long line of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Terrifying quotes post match. Clearly can't see where the problems lie. He seems to deal in attack and defence rather than the team as a whole, maybe why the midfield is performing so poorly, stuck in the middle so to speak. Our possession game is as poor as anyone in the division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I'm not bothered about the Wolves game in isolation. In their last two Prem away games they got draws at WHL and the Emirates. They're a feisty side on the road against "bigger" sides. The malaise I feel about us is about the ongoing and aggregated lack of performances over the season. This is of course the latest chapter in a long line of them. The performances over the last 3 months have been bad (bar Man Utd)....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 As fantastic as i job i believe he's done this lack of agression and lazy and releaxed attitude in the smaller games especially when we lead in those games is starting to piss me off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I was genuinely bored stupid watching us in the first half. I never thought i would feel like that watching Newcastle, especially in a game we are winning as I wouldn't normally care as winning is what's most important. But i couldn't believe that we just gave them the ball for the remainder of that half. I don't know if it was just arrogance from our lads thinking wolves were too weak to break us down. To be fair it did look like that maybe the case in the first half. I thoroughly expected Pardew to give them a kick up the arse at half time and we would go on to get a 3rd and make the result certain but well we know what actually happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 He's a Souness/Kinnear/Roeder calibre manager, and we knew that when he was appointed. The only tangible difference imo is that Ashley/Llambias' astute transfer policy (as communicated to us in a statement long before Pardew's arrival) has given us a squad with far more quality - players with the potential to move up to a CL club for big money, as opposed to going the other way, i.e. coming down from CL clubs as they approach the end of their careers - than what the previous lot had. But still, the negative and defeatist tactics, chaotic gameplans, rabbit-out-of-a-hat formations, bizarre substitutions, long balls, unwarranted favouritism, and lack of visible movement/drilling/coaching/preparation, are no different to what they were under the aforementioned managers. Can't really complain because of where we are in the table though, but given that performances have been relatively poor throughout the season imo, and with recent results starting to reflect those performances, it's not unfair to be expecting his teams to be playing better given the talent at his disposal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 he's a frustrating manager, that guy from espn has got it right, he said when pardew was at west ham they did not play attractive football , it was direct, hoof long ball, he said that about everyone of pardews teams play the exact same way. he also said Alan Pardew was a con man, the type that would tell you his teams play attractive football but in actual fact its just direct football. And also called Pardew an Egomaniac. skip forward to 12:50 http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/61504.html?genre=6;sport=3 Wow, never seen that. The bald bloke is scarily accurate with what we have found out about Pardew during his time here. Ive seen him constantly go on about his teams have always played good football etc. When in reality since the day he took over we have been a long ball team. It worked when we had the Carroll-Barton-nolan thing going. Then with Best and Shola. Then with Ba and Shola. But as we saw today, long ball is just not going to work with Ba and Cisse. So unless he decides to bench Cisse for Shola we need to change and adapt to our new and better players. except we haven't been a hoof ball team in general. no denying we have done it at times but in general we haven't. i'll give pardew the benefit so far in that we are doing well, table wise, and i can understand why, if that continues he'd stick with it. his big questions will come if the results stoop coming. We haven't been a hoofball team or a passing team. That's probably one of the reasons Pardew keeps chopping and changing formations, because he isn't really sure how to put the players at his disposal to the best use. The team selections, formations, tactics and substitutions seem to change every week as he grasps for the best way to make use of the players available to him. maybe mixing it has worked so far, or taking a horses for courses approach has worked. can get you so far. If we were playing horses for courses approach I think we could have selected better horses for some of the courses tbh. I think it's been more a case of some horses showing their pedigree whatever the courses might have thrown up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Mid season poll reset would be interesting. Done. Results for posterity: How has Alan Pardew done as Newcastle manager so far? Brilliant 245 (40.8%) Good 311 (51.8%) OK 32 (5.3%) Crap 3 (0.5%) Terrible 9 (1.5%) Total Members Voted: 599 PS: voted good before, voted good this time. I'm worried though, still needs to convince me he's capable of sustaining this kind of challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Voted good last time, now crap. Reason is because this had the hallmark of a Glenn Roeder as I like to call it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Mid season poll reset would be interesting. Done. Results for posterity: How has Alan Pardew done as Newcastle manager so far? Brilliant 245 (40.8%) Good 311 (51.8%) OK 32 (5.3%) Crap 3 (0.5%) Terrible 9 (1.5%) Total Members Voted: 599 PS: voted good before, voted good this time. I'm worried though, still needs to convince me he's capable of sustaining this kind of challenge. Nice one Dave. Voted good before, but voted OK this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I voted OK because I think he's done well but is crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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