Keefaz Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Agree with that. Think he's doing alright, but suspect he's a wanker and ultimately doomed for that reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I think he's doing a really good job, and I'm starting to warm to him, but some of the things he says is just ridiculous. That Mirror article for example, quite a lot of it is alright. But why the hell is he talking about the manager who comes in after him ffs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-Andy-Carroll-cost-a-highly-unusual-30million-up-front-plus-25-of-any-sell-on-fee-as-Newcastle-played-hardball-on-transfer-deadline-day-article700813.html "I still go back to my first week when I went into a petrol station at minus-three degrees and I bumped into one of our fans, a bloke of about 43, who had the full kit on and he was asking me questions. That took some beating. A bloke of about 43? That's canny specific like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-Andy-Carroll-cost-a-highly-unusual-30million-up-front-plus-25-of-any-sell-on-fee-as-Newcastle-played-hardball-on-transfer-deadline-day-article700813.html "I still go back to my first week when I went into a petrol station at minus-three degrees and I bumped into one of our fans, a bloke of about 43, who had the full kit on and he was asking me questions. That took some beating. A bloke of about 43? That's canny specific like and i'm sure jim smith told exactly the same story when he first came up here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Agree with that. Think he's doing alright, but suspect he's a w***** and ultimately doomed for that reason. I'm not sure about that. He's made some mistakes in the past, like fooling around with certain women. But all players who have worked with him say he's a nice fellow and that he is a skilled manager. According to some reports he was treated as s*** in Soton. He must have seen it as a blow not being a manager in PL, since he probably feels he got the competence to do it.. He was out of a job, and suddenly MA comes along and offers him one of the biggest manager jobs in PL. This is probably a make or break job for him. If he fails with Castle, he will probably never be offered a PL-job again. In other words, I'm pretty sure that he will not be doing the same mistakes, behavior-wise, again. And he's already shown some humbleness to the job. In particular, he's been very respectful about what a great job Chris did with the club.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I agree, also being a wanker doesn't mean you're doomed in football at all. Often it means you'll be a great success! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 He's doing well, that seems to be the general consensus. Not being a doommonger or anything but I think the view of him will have changed by September/October. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 He's doing well, that seems to be the general consensus. Not being a doommonger or anything but I think the view of him will have changed by September/October. No, no, wouldn't dream of it. That's not being a doommonger in the slightest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 He'll be judged on the players he brings in (rightly or wrongly). I say that because i think what a manager can do with the players he inherits is more telling. However, if he's allowed to seriously strengthen the team, 2 strikers, another wide man and a back up for Tiote and Enrique (should those 2 stay) he'll end up with a good reputation imo coz he seems fairly clued in with training and matchdays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Good article:http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2011/02/18/alan-pardew-focused-on-finer-details-61634-28191621/ In particular: “We report on every game, the build-up, the training, little things that happen – if a player pulled out late, why did it happen? So there will be some sort of history here for the next manager, which is important given the size of this club. It’s good to know what went on and what goes on here.” (...) “We’ve increased the staff, we have two more analysts working with the team now because I didn’t think there were enough analysts. We’ve got them in studying the opposition, studying us, collaborating it all After Pardew took over, our play seems more "pre-planned" imo. Eg. against Bham one of the most important aspects was to deny crossers because that is the only time Zigic is dangerous. And he received only one good cross the whole game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2011/02/18/liverpool-was-the-right-move-for-andy-carroll-61634-28191465/#ixzz1EJGTGGTB “As the manager has said, if we are going to get that money to re-invest in the summer, you add three or four players to the squad after what we have done this year, it’s going to be great for us. That is how you have to look at the Andy deal. “It was tough to take, but in retrospect we got top, top money for him. When me and him were talking about it, I said to him I would have accepted £25m, he said he’d have accepted £20m. I don’t think he could believe the sum. Does Nolan mean Pardew here? I thought Pardew said he advised Ashley to reject £20m, £25m, £30m....? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 No, I think Nolan means he was chatting with Andy Carroll... Nolan said he would have accepted 25 and Carroll said he would have accepted 20 (if they had been owner). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I wouldn't have accepted any sum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I wouldn't have accepted any sum. Me either but if I was a Man U fan I would have said the same about Cronaldo. All owners will have a very different limit to the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I know. I'm generally just a bit disappointed with everything Nolan's had to say regarding the Carroll sale. It's no great shakes or anything and i think, generally, he's a very good Captain. But going onto Liverpool's site and waxing lyrical, and then saying he'd have sold Carroll for £20m - i think given what the guy meant to the club as a player and as a figure, it's a bit insensitive of Nolan. But i normally enjoy listening to everything he has to say. You can't deny his honesty - i just question his feelings regarding what happened in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I know. I'm generally just a bit disappointed with everything Nolan's had to say regarding the Carroll sale. It's no great shakes or anything and i think, generally, he's a very good Captain. But going onto Liverpool's site and waxing lyrical, and then saying he'd have sold Carroll for £20m - i think given what the guy meant to the club as a player and as a figure, it's a bit insensitive of Nolan. But i normally enjoy listening to everything he has to say. You can't deny his honesty - i just question his feelings regarding what happened in January. Agree with every word Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I wouldn't have accepted any sum. Me either but if I was a Man U fan I would have said the same about Cronaldo. All owners will have a very different limit to the fans. Ronaldo had repeatedly stated it was his wish to go to Madrid, they had to let him go eventually and their fans had yonks to get used to it. It's ridiculous that even after Man Utd convinced him to stay another season they still got a world record fee for him like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Think we seen some good quotes from him today. Lets hope it´s just not good quotes but also that we lives up to them. Don´t think we need to spend all the Carroll money to improve (see this summer). But it would be a very risky game to play. In a way I like the "new" Newcastle with a sound economy than under crazy Shepherd. Let´s just hope that we can continue to scout well. The success of a player at a club isn´t necessary how much he cost. More Tioté and Ben Arfa please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I wouldn't have accepted any sum. What about Messi, David Villa, Xavi, Inesta +25 million? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Think we seen some good quotes from him today. Lets hope it´s just not good quotes but also that we lives up to them. Don´t think we need to spend all the Carroll money to improve (see this summer). But it would be a very risky game to play. In a way I like the "new" Newcastle with a sound economy than under crazy Shepherd. Let´s just hope that we can continue to scout well. The success of a player at a club isn´t necessary how much he cost. More Tioté and Ben Arfa please Couldn't have said it better my self. And the fact that we only paid £3.5 for his Holiness, makes it much more fun too watch him play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Think we seen some good quotes from him today. Lets hope it´s just not good quotes but also that we lives up to them. Don´t think we need to spend all the Carroll money to improve (see this summer). But it would be a very risky game to play. In a way I like the "new" Newcastle with a sound economy than under crazy Shepherd. Let´s just hope that we can continue to scout well. The success of a player at a club isn´t necessary how much he cost. More Tioté and Ben Arfa please The manager who signed those players is gone though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 In a way I like the "new" Newcastle with a sound economy than under crazy Shepherd. Let´s just hope that we can continue to scout well. The success of a player at a club isn´t necessary how much he cost. Tioté andease Crazy Shep & stupid old Bobby buying Cort, Gavilan, Bassedas, Viana & Bramble. The pair of them wasted club money. I am surprised they never got a relegation on there CV while running NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Think we seen some good quotes from him today. Lets hope it´s just not good quotes but also that we lives up to them. Don´t think we need to spend all the Carroll money to improve (see this summer). But it would be a very risky game to play. In a way I like the "new" Newcastle with a sound economy than under crazy Shepherd. Let´s just hope that we can continue to scout well. The success of a player at a club isn´t necessary how much he cost. More Tioté and Ben Arfa please The manager who signed those players is gone though. That's true when it comes to HBA I guess. CH is liked by everyone and is a true gentlemen (he's actually my favorite behind Sir Bobby), and that could be the main reason for HBA wanting to sign for us. But when it comes to Tiote, is much more about having the proper scouting network in place. If Carr and Co have done their job properly, which they obviously did with Tiote, Chris' approval is only a formality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Think we seen some good quotes from him today. Lets hope it´s just not good quotes but also that we lives up to them. Don´t think we need to spend all the Carroll money to improve (see this summer). But it would be a very risky game to play. In a way I like the "new" Newcastle with a sound economy than under crazy Shepherd. Let´s just hope that we can continue to scout well. The success of a player at a club isn´t necessary how much he cost. More Tioté and Ben Arfa please The manager who signed those players is gone though. That's true when it comes to HBA I guess. CH is liked by everyone and is a true gentlemen (he's actually my favorite behind Sir Bobby), and that could be the main reason for HBA wanting to sign for us. But when it comes to Tiote, is much more about having the proper scouting network in place. If Carr and Co have done their job properly, which they obviously did with Tiote, Chris' approval is only a formality. Hughton watched Tiote under KK's instructions before Carr was even employed by NUFC though. I don't agree with this current trend of denigrating Hughton's signings as not being his. Even if he hadn't scouted Tiote (which he did but no-one likes to mention that), so what? I've never queried who scouted Laurent Robert because I'm not interested - Bobby Robson signed him, so he takes credit, just as he would take "blame" for Bassedas. Never heard of anyone having a go at Wenger and claiming his transfer policy is not his, just because he might not personally have been in Barcelona watching a 14 year old Fabregas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I might tidy this up later, I've taken the info on face value, the site could be wrong where I got it from. These are all of his signings before he came here and the information comes from http://www.soccerbase.com John Mackie Sutton Utd Free 28 Oct, 1999 Mark Bowen Wigan Free 07 Dec, 1999 Matt Robinson Portsmouth £150,000 28 Jan, 2000 Martin Butler Cambridge U £750,000 01 Feb, 2000 Sammy Igoe Portsmouth £100,000 23 Mar, 2000 Keith Jones Charlton Free 03 Jul, 2000 Adrian Viveash Walsall Free 03 Jul, 2000 Ady Williams Wolves Free 03 Jul, 2000 Ricky Newman Millwall Free 25 Jul, 2000 Joe Gamble Cork City Undisclosed 08 Aug, 2000 Tony Rougier Port Vale £325,000 11 Aug, 2000 Jamie Cureton Bristol R £250,000 21 Aug, 2000 Nicky Shorey Leyton Orient £25,000 09 Feb, 2001 James Harper Arsenal Undisclosed 28 Feb, 2001 Adrian Whitbread Portsmouth Free 05 Jul, 2001 Andy Hughes Notts Co Free 05 Jul, 2001 Alex Smith Port Vale Free 17 Jul, 2001 Antony Malessa Oxford Free 01 Dec, 2001 John Salako Charlton £50,000 28 Jan, 2002 Kevin Watson Rotherham £150,000 15 Mar, 2002 Marcus Hahnemann Fulham Free 08 Aug, 2002 Steve Brown Charlton Free 19 Dec, 2002 Steven Sidwell Arsenal Undisclosed 20 Jan, 2003 Mario Noto Tottenham Free 20 Mar, 2003 Scott Murray Bristol C £650,000 08 Jul, 2003 Shaun Goater Man City £500,000 01 Aug, 2003 Hayden Mullins West Ham £800,000 23 Oct, 2003 Brian Deane Leicester Free 31 Oct, 2003 Marlon Harewood Nottm Forest £500,000 25 Nov, 2003 Andy Melville Fulham Free 17 Jan, 2004 Nigel Reo-Coker MK Dons £500,000 22 Jan, 2004 Adam Nowland MK Dons Undisclosed 23 Jan, 2004 Bobby Zamora Tottenham Swap 02 Feb, 2004 Jobi McAnuff MK Dons Undisclosed 03 Feb, 2004 Pavel Srnicek Portsmouth Free 22 Mar, 2004 Jimmy Walker Walsall Free 10 Jun, 2004 Teddy Sheringham Portsmouth Free 14 Jul, 2004 Sergei Rebrov Tottenham Free 27 Jul, 2004 Luke Chadwick Man Utd Free 02 Aug, 2004 Moses Ashikodi Millwall Free 04 Aug, 2004 Carl Fletcher Bournemouth £275,000 31 Aug, 2004 Malky Mackay Norwich £300,000 10 Sep, 2004 Mauricio Taricco Tottenham Free 19 Nov, 2004 Gavin Williams Yeovil £250,000 08 Dec, 2004 Chris Powell Charlton Free 17 Dec, 2004 Shaun Newton Wolves £125,000 10 Mar, 2005 Roy Carroll Man Utd Free 15 Jun, 2005 Danny Gabbidon Cardiff Undisclosed 05 Jul, 2005 Paul Konchesky Charlton £1,500,000 05 Jul, 2005 James Collins Cardiff Undisclosed 05 Jul, 2005 Shaka Hislop Portsmouth Free 29 Jul, 2005 Clive Clarke Stoke £275,000 31 Jul, 2005 Petr Mikolanda Viktoria Zizkov Undisclosed 08 Aug, 2005 Sekou Baradji Le Mans Undisclosed 31 Aug, 2005 Yaniv Katan M. Haifa £100,000 03 Jan, 2006 Dean Ashton Norwich £7,250,000 22 Jan, 2006 Lee Bowyer Newcastle Undisclosed 09 Jun, 2006 Jonathan Spector Man Utd £500,000 15 Jun, 2006 Carlton Cole Chelsea Undisclosed 05 Jul, 2006 Tyrone Mears Preston £1,000,000 05 Jul, 2006 John Paintsil H Tel Aviv £1,000,000 02 Aug, 2006 George McCartney Sunderland Undisclosed 08 Aug, 2006 Rob Green Norwich £2,000,000 16 Aug, 2006 Carlos Tevez Corinthians Loan 31 Aug, 2006 Javier Mascherano Corinthians Loan 31 Aug, 2006 Dean Sinclair Barnet £125,000 01 Aug, 2007 Izale McLeod MK Dons £1,100,000 09 Aug, 2007 Zheng Zhi Shandong Luneng £2,000,000 09 Aug, 2007 Andy Gray Burnley Undisclosed 18 Jan, 2008 Mark Hudson C Palace Free 24 May, 2008 Stuart Fleetwood Forest Green Free 16 Jun, 2008 Nick Bailey Southend Undisclosed 13 Aug, 2008 Dan Harding Ipswich Free 21 Jul, 2009 Rickie Lambert Bristol R £1,000,000 11 Aug, 2009 Dean Hammond Colchester Undisclosed 20 Aug, 2009 Radhi Jaidi Birmingham Free 03 Sep, 2009 Jose Fonte C Palace £800,000 09 Jan, 2010 Danny Seaborne Exeter Free 13 Jan, 2010 Jon Otsemobor Norwich Free 14 Jan, 2010 Lee Barnard Southend Undisclosed 22 Jan, 2010 Jason Puncheon Plymouth Undisclosed 01 Feb, 2010 Ryan Dickson Brentford Free 15 Jun, 2010 Frazer Richardson Charlton Undisclosed 06 Jul, 2010 Danny Butterfield C Palace Free 17 Jul, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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