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Guest Loven11 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 ALAN PARDEW admits that Newcastle United’s wage bill next season will be strictly mid-table. In a startling confession as the Toon’s recruitment drive hots up, the Newcastle boss says the stark reality is that United simply cannot compete with Tottenham and Liverpool on the wage front. Indeed Pardew says that Harry Redknapp’s wage bill is DOUBLE his. Kenny Dalglish’s big-spending Reds and upwardly mobile Spurs are both on the coat-tails of the top four at the moment, belonging to a bracket of teams that Newcastle are desperately striving for. But Pardew says United will have to get there by squeezing the most out of what they’ve got – and discovering more hidden gems like Cheik Tiote in the transfer market. Asked whether Newcastle could convince a Continental target that they could offer more than one of the big North London clubs, Pardew told the Sunday Sun: “I don’t think we’re anywhere near Spurs in terms of the wage bill. Theirs is double ours, so you can forget about Spurs. “That doesn’t mean to say we can’t compete with them on the playing pitch. On transfers, we can’t compete with their wages. We can’t compete with Liverpool’s wages. “We’ve got to face that reality. We can’t.” The current climate is all a far cry from the days when St James’ Park was seen as a big pay day for potential new arrivals. That policy worked well in a few cases – Alan Shearer and Les Ferdinand being two of the most pressing examples – but less so in others. Newcastle fans probably still wake up in a cold sweat about Geremi, Patrick Kluivert or even Michael Owen, whose sole motivation for moving to St James’ Park was the bumper pay day. Mike Ashley’s new approach is a different one and while some fans will be dismayed, others might think that Newcastle are laying down better foundations for a tilt at the top six. Indeed Pardew is refusing to be downbeat about his budget, insisting there remains an opportunity to kick on next year. First up, he believes, a top ten finish has to be secured next season. Then the top six is the target – with Pardew hoping to “fire” Ashley’s imagination in the process. He said: “Having said that about wages, we can get a top-10 finish, we can get a top-eight finish - we can, even, get a top-six finish maybe, if things went really, really well for us. That has been proven. “Then we need – at some point – to kick on. I think where Mike is at the moment, he wants the club to be stable. “He wants to see that there’s some stability here. “He wants to see we can get a top ten finish next year and then, maybe, we can get him excited enough to attack the top level after that. That’s where we want to be.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 ALAN PARDEW admits that Newcastle United’s wage bill next season will be strictly mid-table. In a startling confession as the Toon’s recruitment drive hots up, the Newcastle boss says the stark reality is that United simply cannot compete with Tottenham and Liverpool on the wage front. Indeed Pardew says that Harry Redknapp’s wage bill is DOUBLE his. Kenny Dalglish’s big-spending Reds and upwardly mobile Spurs are both on the coat-tails of the top four at the moment, belonging to a bracket of teams that Newcastle are desperately striving for. But Pardew says United will have to get there by squeezing the most out of what they’ve got – and discovering more hidden gems like Cheik Tiote in the transfer market. Asked whether Newcastle could convince a Continental target that they could offer more than one of the big North London clubs, Pardew told the Sunday Sun: “I don’t think we’re anywhere near Spurs in terms of the wage bill. Theirs is double ours, so you can forget about Spurs. “That doesn’t mean to say we can’t compete with them on the playing pitch. On transfers, we can’t compete with their wages. We can’t compete with Liverpool’s wages. “We’ve got to face that reality. We can’t.” The current climate is all a far cry from the days when St James’ Park was seen as a big pay day for potential new arrivals. That policy worked well in a few cases – Alan Shearer and Les Ferdinand being two of the most pressing examples – but less so in others. Newcastle fans probably still wake up in a cold sweat about Geremi, Patrick Kluivert or even Michael Owen, whose sole motivation for moving to St James’ Park was the bumper pay day. Mike Ashley’s new approach is a different one and while some fans will be dismayed, others might think that Newcastle are laying down better foundations for a tilt at the top six. Indeed Pardew is refusing to be downbeat about his budget, insisting there remains an opportunity to kick on next year. First up, he believes, a top ten finish has to be secured next season. Then the top six is the target – with Pardew hoping to “fire” Ashley’s imagination in the process. He said: “Having said that about wages, we can get a top-10 finish, we can get a top-eight finish - we can, even, get a top-six finish maybe, if things went really, really well for us. That has been proven. “Then we need – at some point – to kick on. I think where Mike is at the moment, he wants the club to be stable. “He wants to see that there’s some stability here. “He wants to see we can get a top ten finish next year and then, maybe, we can get him excited enough to attack the top level after that. That’s where we want to be.” Not a major shock, tbf I don't want us to go back to spunking 60k-100k a week especially when we are not in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Tbf Spurs have about 196 players on their books so it's no surprise we would match their wage bill, Liverpool are probably paying some of their players up to £100k a week (isn't Carroll supposed to be on about £80k-90k?) so again that's no shock. The sort of players we are going to afford shouldn't be commanding those sorts of wages anyway. If we continue to bring in players the calibre of Ben Arfa, Tiote and Cabaye then we will still progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Nowt new there regarding wages. We all know we're unwilling to pay top dollar these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 How is that Spurs can spend so much these days is it all paid for by Levy ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackM Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Joe Lewis I reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Joe Lewis I reckon They aren't massively funded by their owners, but their annual Premiership income is about £30 million a year more than ours. Over the course of several years that helps. Edit: They are also very good in the transfer market and when they sell their players on it is done with good value to the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheSummerOf69 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I'm admiring all this pre-season optimism. The sun is shining, we're level with Man Utd in the untrampled league tables, we have a good chief scout and lots of money in the bank. There's still this little voice, though, saying things like: we were only a couple of wins above relegation and the second year back is often much harder for promoted teams; as well as losing Caroll we could start the season with Barton, Enrique and Nolan gone; we've still got that total numpty for a chairman; Ashley is wanting the money back that he cost us on all his mistakes - like relegation, having to pay Keegan off for constructive dismissal (instead of getting the £2m from him for leaving early as per his contract), appointing Kinnear, selling the best young players like Milner and N'Zogbia (and Caroll?) for less than they go on to be worth, dismantling the core of that great team spirit that brought us back from the brink after the Orient loss signalled a relegation battle ahead... Shh. Not now, Silent Whinger! Then there's things like this: Pardew said: "Things are definitely moving on now and we expect to be busier between now and the start of the season. We are working very hard on one or two players and we hope to announce something soon." Only "one or two players"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Don't think there's much reason to believe that our second season will be that much more difficult, except of course if we actually end up with a weaker squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I'm admiring all this pre-season optimism. The sun is shining, we're level with Man Utd in the untrampled league tables, we have a good chief scout and lots of money in the bank. There's still this little voice, though, saying things like: we were only a couple of wins above relegation and the second year back is often much harder for promoted teams; as well as losing Caroll we could start the season with Barton, Enrique and Nolan gone; we've still got that total numpty for a chairman; Ashley is wanting the money back that he cost us on all his mistakes - like relegation, having to pay Keegan off for constructive dismissal (instead of getting the £2m from him for leaving early as per his contract), appointing Kinnear, selling the best young players like Milner and N'Zogbia (and Caroll?) for less than they go on to be worth, dismantling the core of that great team spirit that brought us back from the brink after the Orient loss signalled a relegation battle ahead... Shh. Not now, Silent Whinger! Then there's things like this: Pardew said: "Things are definitely moving on now and we expect to be busier between now and the start of the season. We are working very hard on one or two players and we hope to announce something soon." Only "one or two players"? Have a good cry. It'll make you feel better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Relegation won't be an issue because we'll not finish anywhere near Norwich, Swansea, Wolves or Blackburn in terms of points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Relegation won't be an issue because we'll not finish anywhere near Norwich, Swansea, Wolves or Blackburn in terms of points. i sense piss drinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Spotted at the airport this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 How is that Spurs can spend so much these days is it all paid for by Levy ? Spurs season tickets are the 2nd most expensive in the league and they receive shitload's from their sponsorship deals. Also they've recouped a good amount from various transfer deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Spotted at the airport this morning. Head-hunted by Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 He piped up yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 The Mike Ashley Project, surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Spotted at the airport this morning. Fingers crossed for his interview at Cardiff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliMag Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Chris Hughton: great at raising team morale. Well Pardew is going to have to become as good if not better than Chris next year at this skill. None of "this group of lads" will be in the first team. We are shedding the large weekly earners and older players at a fast pace and continue to get more money in than we spend in the transfer market. This is Alan Pardew's team and he will have no excuses at the start of the year. Like many on here I think team morale and team spirit is a difficult thing to create let alone maintain. I can't see Alan having much success in this with the changes that are coming through. He underestimated what it meant to be our manager (had no idea what the NE Football culture was like especially Newcastle) and I am afraid he will not understand or be able field a team that can play at SJP. Not to mention the fact that everytime Pardew talks about transfer he talks about bring only a couple of players in... that kind of talk really bothers me. Why would he say this? Does he really believe our squad is big enough and good enough to make it through next season? Hopefully he's just being coy, but he is making major changes to the team (whether it is his fault of Ashley/Lambias) he should own up to this that this is a major overhaul. Saying it isn't is disingenuous and annoying. The team relied heavily upon Shearer for years to provide inspiration and leadership on and off the pitch. By many reports, it took a combination of Nolan, Barton, Smith and Harper to be able to bring that level of leadership back and now they are all most likely gone (probably with Harper benched rather than sold). I am not hopeful for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I think Pardew himself might be pretty good at creating team spirit, he seems like that kind of manager to me. Also a bit logically suspect to give the credit to Hughton for creating great morale while also giving it to the Nolan and Barton super group of lads. I agree we could end up with a squad that's too small, but it hasn't happened yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 He's got a hell of a job on his hands. Good luck to him. Rather him than me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 We'll see how good a manager he really is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 We'll see how good a manager he really is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I just can't wait...... til he goes in October.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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