cp40 Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them....To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies — all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth. i think my brain is in a knot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Fools Last week!!!!!!! Pards on LB:“The process started just about this time last week.Clubs know we are in need of a left back and they make it difficult." Please tell me that's not real. Very real unfortunately I'm sure he said ages ago there was a plan in place if Jose went Contradictory Yeah it's looking like that plan was simply look for a left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,81379.msg3053636.html#msg3053636 Pardew on Enrique: "No-one more keen to keep him than me, terrific player. Desire to play CL football makes it hard to keep him. Going to keep hoping he'll sign a new deal. Would be foolish to not have a backup plan if he does leave, which we do." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 'Backup plan': *shit self* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Personally, I think we'll have a good season. We've been tight and twats in the transfer market and it's fucked us over on incomings but the business we've done has been decent. Ever since Hughton went Enrique was odds on to go and even if Hughton had stayed we really don't know what Enrique would have done. The barton business has pissed me off as it seems like we've had no idea what we're doing from the get go, we look as amateurish as always. However, if we sign a decent LB and striker then I'll go into the season positive. As for Pardew, I think he's done a good enough job, he can hardly stick two fingers up to the board, Hughton couldn't do it. The only person who did it was KK and we know where that got him and us. I'm crying out for someone who cares about the club to be in charge like you HTT but in spite of that, I'm willing to judge things as objectively as I can at present. In terms of Ashley's long-term plan, I honestly believe cutting the wage bill, getting rid of ridiculous contracts for joke players and not paying big money for players who are completely unproven at PL level is the only way to move forward. I don't want to see ridiculous investment and see us just racking up the debt. As long as we invest enough to get in quality at LB and a striker's position, whether that's £10M or up to £15 (no way will we go over) then I'm not complaining, it's sustainable and every signing so far has been promising. In spite of this, if they honestly think they can go into the new season without a new LB or striker come the end of the window or they get rid of Tiote, Colo or to a lesser extent Barton, I will lose it as will the vast majority What a load of crap. You're very reasonable when you're arguing with a straw man. Of course, everyone who's complaining must lack objectivity. And we all believe in racking up debt and paying big money for unproven or joke players. Fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Personally, I think we'll have a good season. We've been tight and twats in the transfer market and it's f***ed us over on incomings but the business we've done has been decent. Ever since Hughton went Enrique was odds on to go and even if Hughton had stayed we really don't know what Enrique would have done. The barton business has p*ssed me off as it seems like we've had no idea what we're doing from the get go, we look as amateurish as always. However, if we sign a decent LB and striker then I'll go into the season positive. As for Pardew, I think he's done a good enough job, he can hardly stick two fingers up to the board, Hughton couldn't do it. The only person who did it was KK and we know where that got him and us. I'm crying out for someone who cares about the club to be in charge like you HTT but in spite of that, I'm willing to judge things as objectively as I can at present. In terms of Ashley's long-term plan, I honestly believe cutting the wage bill, getting rid of ridiculous contracts for joke players and not paying big money for players who are completely unproven at PL level is the only way to move forward. I don't want to see ridiculous investment and see us just racking up the debt. As long as we invest enough to get in quality at LB and a striker's position, whether that's £10M or up to £15 (no way will we go over) then I'm not complaining, it's sustainable and every signing so far has been promising. In spite of this, if they honestly think they can go into the new season without a new LB or striker come the end of the window or they get rid of Tiote, Colo or to a lesser extent Barton, I will lose it as will the vast majority What a load of crap. You're very reasonable when you're arguing with a straw man. Of course, everyone who's complaining must lack objectivity. And we all believe in racking up debt and paying big money for unproven or joke players. f*** off. Absurdly defensive and needlessly aggressive. I never made the claim that everyone complaining lacks objectivity I merely said I was trying to see things objectively. I never even made the claim that I was seeing them objectively, just that I was trying. I also never made the claim that anyone was suggesting we rack up debt or pay big money for unproven/joke players. I made the point we've done so in the past and must avoid this in the future. If you don't like what I have to say, make some points, don't just tell me to fuck off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 'Backup plan': *shit self* Back up plan: shoe horn shite reserve player into left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wally_McFool Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 'Backup plan': *shit self* Back up plan: shoe horn shite reserve player into left back. ... then shit self Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 'Backup plan': *s*** self* Back up plan: shoe horn s**** reserve player into left back. ... then s*** self Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 I noticed jay lloyd samual was released this year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 I noticed jay lloyd samual was released this year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 The atmosphere at the weekend was strange. It bordered on the apathetic to the extremely vicious at times. I was in the usually placid East Stand and some of the comments regarding some of our new players were shocking to listen to. People are just waiting to kick right off. I likewise do not know a single person with NUFC in their heart be it those that go to games or older folk who keep up to date with things via the radio and press, who is happy with things at the moment. many I know look at Pardew as the sinister backstabber who took the job of saint Chrissy Hughton, a mate of the evil Ashley and Llambias, a mouth piece, puppet and above all else, seriously average manager. People are p*ssed off and a defeat against the unwashed could result in ugly scenes. As far as I'm concerned Pardew can do nothing to win over me. I don't care if he masterminds a 5-0 win over the mackems, he for me is a poor manager but worst of all, a contemptable person, one I don't want associated with my club in the same way I don't want Ashley, Llambias and any other tosspot associated with my club. I long for honest, hard working, decent people with a degree of passion and humility about them. They don't have to be world-class at what they do, I just want to see my club represented by good guys. People like Hughton, Sir Bobby, KK, decent people with the club's best interest at heart. Spot on. I said a few weeks back that it is a matter of time before trouble starts to brew in the stands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Think most of us said Pardew will be judged on his actions in the transfer market and how he would address the issues we've had for years. Give him to the end of the window then call for blood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Think most of us said Pardew will be judged on his actions in the transfer market and how he would address the issues we've had for years. Give him to the end of the window then call for blood. He is an insignificant part of the problem. MA and DL are the ones who deserve both barrels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slarth Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Who would we get without Pards though?! I shudder to think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Who would we get without Pards though?! I shudder to think. This is why the board should get most of the venom, till it goes pete tong on the pitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Who would we get without Pards though?! I shudder to think. We should count ourselves lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Be a cold fucking day in hell before I think myself lucky that this shithead is manager of Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Who would we get without Pards though?! I shudder to think. We should count ourselves lucky. Is that a joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Wish we could just keep a manager for more than five minutes. Who can really say, with any authority, he's still going to be here at Xmas? http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1633/seasons.gif Eventually we're going to be changing managers every bloody week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 'Backup plan': *s*** self* Nice, such a well thought plan tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Be a cold fucking day in hell before I think myself lucky that this shithead is manager of Newcastle. Actually raised a chuckle, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Be a cold fucking day in hell before I think myself lucky that this shithead is manager of Newcastle. :thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Be a cold f***ing day in hell before I think myself lucky that this shithead is manager of Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Be a cold f***ing day in hell before I think myself lucky that this shithead is manager of Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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