timeEd32 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 It would be just our luck to hire a manager that everyone laughed at only for him to have us push on like we never thought possible given the circumstances and then have him taken away by England. Won't happen, but would be typical. I find it very hard to dislike Pardew. Agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Patrick Barclay in yesterday's Times mooted the Pardy Man as a potential replacement for Capello. That's fucking ridiculous tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 If Keegan can get the job, anyone can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Patrick Barclay in yesterday's Times mooted the Pardy Man as a potential replacement for Capello. I think Barclay must have been snorting the ole Pardy powder to suggest that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Patrick Barclay in yesterday's Times mooted the Pardy Man as a potential replacement for Capello. That's f***ing ridiculous tbf. Aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Certainly don't think he gets enough credit like. The thought that we've lucked ourselves to the top four, unbeaten in the league, 4th round of the cup and the best defensive record in the football league is rather funny If that's the case, Pardew should play the f***ing lottery more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elbee909 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Certainly don't think he gets enough credit like. The thought that we've lucked ourselves to the top four, unbeaten in the league, 4th round of the cup and the best defensive record in the football league is rather funny If that's the case, Pardew should play the f***ing lottery more often. Or go to the casino. No wait! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheSummerOf69 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 If Keegan can get the job, anyone can. [img alt=]http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/Smileys/Newcastle-Online/trollca.png[/img] That'll be the former England captain who took us from our worst ever finish to 3rd in a couple of years then? Then was a whisker (1 result - home to Man Utd, when we battered them but lost 1-0) away from winning the League, playing the best football I've ever seen the Toon play. Shove your troll face in your cave! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 If Keegan can get the job, anyone can. [img alt=]http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/Smileys/Newcastle-Online/trollca.png[/img] That'll be the former England captain who took us from our worst ever finish to 3rd in a couple of years then? Then was a whisker (1 result - home to Man Utd, when we battered them but lost 1-0) away from winning the League, playing the best football I've ever seen the Toon play. Shove your troll face in your cave! I understand Otter's troll was ajoke. But i still enjoyed the response, which is generally my view on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 If Keegan can get the job, anyone can. [img alt=]http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/Smileys/Newcastle-Online/trollca.png[/img] That'll be the former England captain who took us from our worst ever finish to 3rd in a couple of years then? Then was a whisker (1 result - home to Man Utd, when we battered them but lost 1-0) away from winning the League, playing the best football I've ever seen the Toon play. Shove your troll face in your cave! I understand Otter's troll was ajoke. But i still enjoyed the response, which is generally my view on him. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Do people really still rate Hughton higher than Pardew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Do people really still rate Hughton higher than Pardew? I do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 If they do, they mad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Part of what makes a good manager is being the right person at the right time. Pardew fits that bill in my opinion, as did Hughton, Roeder the caretaker, and Bobby Robson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I think if Hughton was still in charge, we'd possibly suffer some second season syndrome. I don't think there would be any summer singings half as good as what we made. We'd possibly still have our Carroll's, Nolan's etc but I duno, I just think we would have definitely struggled this year. Which isn't to say we still won't, but I believe with this fantastic start we've made, we will kick on and aim for that top 7/8 spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Do people really still rate Hughton higher than Pardew? I do. Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 If they do, they mad. Didn't you fear relegation during pre-season? Hughton is more respectable, honest and much better tactically, a far better all-rounder in fact. You'll not see Pardew oversee a result such as the 1-0 win at the Emirates, the 5-1 over the mackems, the 6-0 over Villa nor the rise of an average talent like Carroll. As soon as Pardew took over the form of Nolan and Barton for example dropped below the standard they were performing at under Hughton. Hughton acheieved great things here for a rookie in such a short time under huge pressure too and the job he was doing, i.e. building a good side, was taken away from him not only in a really piss poor way but far too early too. He united the whole club which is no mean task, it took Sir Bobby a few years to do that. Fans believed in him, players did too. Hughton would have saw us kicking on and step up another level and long-term too. I guarantee as soon as a few results go against us, the wheels will fall off under Pardew, on and off the pitch. Even under a good start fans are split and that's because a good number don't like him or trust him and feel he lacks that bit extra bit class, something Hughton seemed to have. We always bounced back after a set back under him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Nolan and Barton's form basically dropped because there was no Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Hughton's PL record last season was either disappointing defeats or insanely brilliant wins. Winning at Goodison and Emirates, plus the home thrashings of Sunderland and Villa were great wins. However they were also bizarre and highly unpredictable. Often a side in the early months following promotion secures shock wins- Burnley beating Man Utd, Hull winning at Arsenal, Blackpool winning at Anfield. My concern with Hughton is that he couldn't seem to secure the regulation wins. Out of the sides who really struggled, we only beat West Ham. Unless we really clicked, Hughton's side struggled to huff and puff sides over. The home performances against Blackpool, Stoke, Wigan and Blackburn were all shocking. I think if Hughton had stayed, by this point in time he would have started to erode a lot of the good will that he quite rightly had built up. HTT- I really did fear a tough season but that's one thing about Pardew that has impressed me: he constantly bounces back from set backs (and the summer was pretty awful). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'm not sure what kind of long term plan Hughton had for us, if any. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 If they do, they mad. Didn't you fear relegation during pre-season? Hughton is more respectable, honest and much better tactically, a far better all-rounder in fact. You'll not see Pardew oversee a result such as the 1-0 win at the Emirates, the 5-1 over the mackems, the 6-0 over Villa nor the rise of an average talent like Carroll. As soon as Pardew took over the form of Nolan and Barton for example dropped below the standard they were performing at under Hughton. Hughton acheieved great things here for a rookie in such a short time under huge pressure too and the job he was doing, i.e. building a good side, was taken away from him not only in a really piss poor way but far too early too. He united the whole club which is no mean task, it took Sir Bobby a few years to do that. Fans believed in him, players did too. Hughton would have saw us kicking on and step up another level and long-term too. I guarantee as soon as a few results go against us, the wheels will fall off under Pardew, on and off the pitch. Even under a good start fans are split and that's because a good number don't like him or trust him and feel he lacks that bit extra bit class, something Hughton seemed to have. We always bounced back after a set back under him. People are getting too wrapped up in big wins over consistently pulling in points, yes Hughton got us victories away to Arsenal and Everton as well as huge scores against Sunderland and Villa, but he also only managed to get us 2 points from home games against Blackpool, Blackburn, Stoke, Fulham and Wigan, he managed 19 points from 16 games in the Premiership which doesn't compare to Pardew's 15 points in 7 he's already got on the board. As for being a better all-rounder, he was a one trick pony that involved the long ball to Carroll and if that didn't work we were fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Didn't think there was much between Pardew and Hughton in the late last season, and still don't think there is. Both alright, average managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Great post Otter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest michaelfoster Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 If they do, they mad. Didn't you fear relegation during pre-season? Hughton is more respectable, honest and much better tactically, a far better all-rounder in fact. You'll not see Pardew oversee a result such as the 1-0 win at the Emirates, the 5-1 over the mackems, the 6-0 over Villa nor the rise of an average talent like Carroll. As soon as Pardew took over the form of Nolan and Barton for example dropped below the standard they were performing at under Hughton. Hughton acheieved great things here for a rookie in such a short time under huge pressure too and the job he was doing, i.e. building a good side, was taken away from him not only in a really p*ss poor way but far too early too. He united the whole club which is no mean task, it took Sir Bobby a few years to do that. Fans believed in him, players did too. Hughton would have saw us kicking on and step up another level and long-term too. I guarantee as soon as a few results go against us, the wheels will fall off under Pardew, on and off the pitch. Even under a good start fans are split and that's because a good number don't like him or trust him and feel he lacks that bit extra bit class, something Hughton seemed to have. We always bounced back after a set back under him. People are getting too wrapped up in big wins over consistently pulling in points, yes Hughton got us victories away to Arsenal and Everton as well as huge scores against Sunderland and Villa, but he also only managed to get us 2 points from home games against Blackpool, Blackburn, Stoke, Fulham and Wigan, he managed 19 points from 16 games in the Premiership which doesn't compare to Pardew's 15 points in 7 he's already got on the board. As for being a better all-rounder, he was a one trick pony that involved the long ball to Carroll and if that didn't work we were f***ed. Yup people remember the 5-1 against Sunderland & 6-0 against Villa, 1-0 against Arsenal & Everton but they forget we were beaten 2-0 at home by Blackpool, beat 2-1 at home by Stoke, beat 2-1 off Blackburn at home, beat 5-1 away at Bolton & beat 3-1 away at West Brom, the latter two probably helped him get the sack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 If they do, they mad. Didn't you fear relegation during pre-season? Hughton is more respectable, honest and much better tactically, a far better all-rounder in fact. You'll not see Pardew oversee a result such as the 1-0 win at the Emirates, the 5-1 over the mackems, the 6-0 over Villa nor the rise of an average talent like Carroll. As soon as Pardew took over the form of Nolan and Barton for example dropped below the standard they were performing at under Hughton. Hughton acheieved great things here for a rookie in such a short time under huge pressure too and the job he was doing, i.e. building a good side, was taken away from him not only in a really piss poor way but far too early too. He united the whole club which is no mean task, it took Sir Bobby a few years to do that. Fans believed in him, players did too. Hughton would have saw us kicking on and step up another level and long-term too. I guarantee as soon as a few results go against us, the wheels will fall off under Pardew, on and off the pitch. Even under a good start fans are split and that's because a good number don't like him or trust him and feel he lacks that bit extra bit class, something Hughton seemed to have. We always bounced back after a set back under him. Agree that Hughton is the more respectable and honest person. That's down to the fact that Pardew is the supposed-to-be-casino-mate with Llambias, though. We did get a huge win against West Ham with Pards (5-0). Why not oversee a win like the 1-0 against Arsenal at the Emirates? Pardew already managed to grind out results this season against Sunderland, Fulham, Wolves and Arsenal (I know, was only a draw. Though.) And he's been better than Hughton in the 'must-win games'. The form of Nolan and Barton didn't really drop either tbh. In Pardew's first game, against Liverpool, both were excellent. Nolan continued to score his goals under Pardew and Barton continued to be a great player for us - even if not on the consistency like under Hughton - which probably was down to the fact that Carroll had left. Still, Barton had some excellent games. You also have to take into consideration that he also had some poor games under Hughton. Saying that all, I have to agree with the last thing in your post. I still can see it getting really really hard for Pardew after a few bad results. At the moment, it seems like a honeymoon period that every manager seems to have after taking over a team - which Pardew didn't have straight in December/January, but probably now. This or it could be that Pardew got the corner and turned our team into something very decent. Hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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