Guest Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 He's in the little circle of those who run the club, no doubt about it - he's abiding by those who've given him the biggest gig of his life. It's just an absolute blessing that he A: happens to have the fans' interests at heart, and B: is a good manager. A) I think that's an extension of having his own interests at heart. He knows he needs to appeal to the fans to gain their support when things get rough. b) He's an organised manager with excellent motivational skills (when things are going well). We've yet to see him in action when the s*** hits the fan. 4-0 down at home to Arsenal? Being beaten at Stevenage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 He's in the little circle of those who run the club, no doubt about it - he's abiding by those who've given him the biggest gig of his life. It's just an absolute blessing that he A: happens to have the fans' interests at heart, and B: is a good manager. A) I think that's an extension of having his own interests at heart. He knows he needs to appeal to the fans to gain their support when things get rough. b) He's an organised manager with excellent motivational skills (when things are going well). We've yet to see him in action when the s*** hits the fan. 4-0 down at home to Arsenal? Being beaten at Stevenage? I don't class one bad result/first half performance as the 'shit hitting the fan' - a run of 4/5 games without a win (every NUFC manager has had this except Pards, maybe Hughton?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I think the post about the individual players improving is a good one,definitely the sign of a good coaching structure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 He's in the little circle of those who run the club, no doubt about it - he's abiding by those who've given him the biggest gig of his life. It's just an absolute blessing that he A: happens to have the fans' interests at heart, and B: is a good manager. A) I think that's an extension of having his own interests at heart. He knows he needs to appeal to the fans to gain their support when things get rough. b) He's an organised manager with excellent motivational skills (when things are going well). We've yet to see him in action when the s*** hits the fan. 4-0 down at home to Arsenal? Being beaten at Stevenage? I don't class one bad result/first half performance as the 's*** hitting the fan' - a run of 4/5 games without a win (every NUFC manager has had this except Pards, maybe Hughton?). Fair enough. Though I'd say being in that position when you'd just sold Carroll and there was a lot of unrest, then reacting to the Stevenage game by getting a good draw at Sunderland which we should have won are decent indications. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 He's in the little circle of those who run the club, no doubt about it - he's abiding by those who've given him the biggest gig of his life. It's just an absolute blessing that he A: happens to have the fans' interests at heart, and B: is a good manager. A) I think that's an extension of having his own interests at heart. He knows he needs to appeal to the fans to gain their support when things get rough. b) He's an organised manager with excellent motivational skills (when things are going well). We've yet to see him in action when the s*** hits the fan. 4-0 down at home to Arsenal? Being beaten at Stevenage? I don't class one bad result/first half performance as the 's*** hitting the fan' - a run of 4/5 games without a win (every NUFC manager has had this except Pards, maybe Hughton?). Fair enough. Surely the fact that "the shit hasn't hit the fan" in 11 months is a kind of testament to the work he's doing and his qualities? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I think to be a little bit kind to Pardew you could say. Pre season was one big shit fan what with Pitch invasions Barton and Cabaye visa problems Losing Tiote Ben Arfas injury Bartons tweeting Leeds dressing room bust up No number 9 signed Nolan, Enrique and Barton sold Off the top of my head :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Good points. He certainly hasn't had it easy, in fact he has come in disliked and is still working hard to get fans on side. Replacing Hughton like he did was hard enough then selling Carroll shortly after. I remember us being certain for relegation after that.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I think to be a little bit kind to Pardew you could say. Pre season was one big shit fan what with Pitch invasions Barton and Cabaye visa problems Losing Tiote where did he go? Ben Arfas injury Bartons tweeting Leeds dressing room bust up No number 9 signed Nolan, Enrique and Barton sold Off the top of my head :-) Hmm, I see a pattern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I think to be a little bit kind to Pardew you could say. Pre season was one big shit fan what with Pitch invasions Barton and Cabaye visa problems Losing Tiote where did he go? Ben Arfas injury Bartons tweeting Leeds dressing room bust up No number 9 signed Nolan, Enrique and Barton sold Off the top of my head :-) Hmm, I see a pattern. Africa'ish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 He's in the little circle of those who run the club, no doubt about it - he's abiding by those who've given him the biggest gig of his life. It's just an absolute blessing that he A: happens to have the fans' interests at heart, and B: is a good manager. A) I think that's an extension of having his own interests at heart. He knows he needs to appeal to the fans to gain their support when things get rough. b) He's an organised manager with excellent motivational skills (when things are going well). We've yet to see him in action when the s*** hits the fan. 4-0 down at home to Arsenal? Being beaten at Stevenage? I don't class one bad result/first half performance as the 's*** hitting the fan' - a run of 4/5 games without a win (every NUFC manager has had this except Pards, maybe Hughton?). Fair enough. Surely the fact that "the shit hasn't hit the fan" in 11 months is a kind of testament to the work he's doing and his qualities? Quite possibly, but the overwhelming probability is that we'll eventually go on a rough patch of results. While I'm loving the fact that we're finally staying injury-free (touch-wood) and getting our fair share of favourable decisions, after so many years of it going the other way, I'm wary that we still haven't seen how the squad copes with the inevitable downturn in fortune. I quite like Pards, so I'm hoping he comes good when we hit the sticky stuff - I have a feeling he's the type of manager who'll rarely lose more than one game on the bounce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I think to be a little bit kind to Pardew you could say. Pre season was one big shit fan what with Pitch invasions Barton and Cabaye visa problems Losing Tiote where did he go? Ben Arfas injury Bartons tweeting Leeds dressing room bust up No number 9 signed Nolan, Enrique and Barton sold Off the top of my head :-) Hmm, I see a pattern. Africa'ish So you knew where he was, then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 He's in the little circle of those who run the club, no doubt about it - he's abiding by those who've given him the biggest gig of his life. It's just an absolute blessing that he A: happens to have the fans' interests at heart, and B: is a good manager. A) I think that's an extension of having his own interests at heart. He knows he needs to appeal to the fans to gain their support when things get rough. b) He's an organised manager with excellent motivational skills (when things are going well). We've yet to see him in action when the s*** hits the fan. 4-0 down at home to Arsenal? Being beaten at Stevenage? I don't class one bad result/first half performance as the 's*** hitting the fan' - a run of 4/5 games without a win (every NUFC manager has had this except Pards, maybe Hughton?). Fair enough. Surely the fact that "the shit hasn't hit the fan" in 11 months is a kind of testament to the work he's doing and his qualities? Quite possibly, but the overwhelming probability is that we'll eventually go on a rough patch of results. While I'm loving the fact that we're finally staying injury-free (touch-wood) and getting our fair share of favourable decisions, after so many years of it going the other way, I'm wary that we still haven't seen how the squad copes with the inevitable downturn in fortune. I quite like Pards, so I'm hoping he comes good when we hit the sticky stuff - I have a feeling he's the type of manager who'll rarely lose more than one game on the bounce Once again, he's been here for 11 months. There's nothing at all to suggest that we will hit a rough patch. (And no, 3 straight defeats to Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea) would'nt be a rough patch. It would be absolutely normal. He's handled most things and most set-backs (Twitter-rows, Carroll sale, losing Nolan and Enrique) admirably so far. I can't see where he'd lose it to be honest. Of course we won't win the league and we won't stay unbeaten all season, but if he can guide towards a top 7 finish he will have done an outstanding job. And IMO he's bang on course to doing just that. We are closing the gap to the Big 4/5/6 bit by bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 What Im really loving (and starting to believe myself) is this whole one game at a time malarky. I know its an old football cliche, but I really think Pardew is really hammering this home. Its even starting to come through in the player interviews a lot more. Now that we are 10 games in, unbeaten and third, this next game mentality is a religion that I can sign up to. When you look at it that way rather than the normal "it will equal out and we might finish 8th or 9th" its hard not to start to get a little carried away with how good this season could be. Everything at the club just seems so geared for sustained success / improvement at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 He's in the little circle of those who run the club, no doubt about it - he's abiding by those who've given him the biggest gig of his life. It's just an absolute blessing that he A: happens to have the fans' interests at heart, and B: is a good manager. A) I think that's an extension of having his own interests at heart. He knows he needs to appeal to the fans to gain their support when things get rough. b) He's an organised manager with excellent motivational skills (when things are going well). We've yet to see him in action when the s*** hits the fan. 4-0 down at home to Arsenal? Being beaten at Stevenage? I don't class one bad result/first half performance as the 's*** hitting the fan' - a run of 4/5 games without a win (every NUFC manager has had this except Pards, maybe Hughton?). Fair enough. Surely the fact that "the shit hasn't hit the fan" in 11 months is a kind of testament to the work he's doing and his qualities? Quite possibly, but the overwhelming probability is that we'll eventually go on a rough patch of results. While I'm loving the fact that we're finally staying injury-free (touch-wood) and getting our fair share of favourable decisions, after so many years of it going the other way, I'm wary that we still haven't seen how the squad copes with the inevitable downturn in fortune. I quite like Pards, so I'm hoping he comes good when we hit the sticky stuff - I have a feeling he's the type of manager who'll rarely lose more than one game on the bounce Once again, he's been here for 11 months. There's nothing at all to suggest that we will hit a rough patch. (And no, 3 straight defeats to Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea) would'nt be a rough patch. It would be absolutely normal. He's handled most things and most set-backs (Twitter-rows, Carroll sale, losing Nolan and Enrique) admirably so far. I can't see where he'd lose it to be honest. Of course we won't win the league and we won't stay unbeaten all season, but if he can guide towards a top 7 finish he will have done an outstanding job. And IMO he's bang on course to doing just that. We are closing the gap to the Big 4/5/6 bit by bit. all teams hit rough patches, even the best ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 How well or quickly we pick ourselves up again after the Man City/Man U/Chelsea fixtures will be the measure of something, anyway. If we can maintain the current focus and spirit on the other side of that difficult run, then I'd say Pardew will have passed another test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 How well or quickly we pick ourselves up again after the Man City/Man U/Chelsea fixtures will be the measure of something, anyway. If we can maintain the current focus and spirit on the other side of that difficult run, then I'd say Pardew will have passed another test. Im still only concerned about the Man City game. I think we may well get something off Manu and Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 don't disagree with clint or Ozzie - still think we're yet to experience a 'drop' on the Pardew rollercoaster (there have been a few dips, but mostly highs). Liking it all so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordstrom Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I think to be a little bit kind to Pardew you could say. Pre season was one big shit fan what with Pitch invasions Barton and Cabaye visa problems Losing Tiote where did he go? Ben Arfas injury Bartons tweeting Leeds dressing room bust up No number 9 signed Nolan, Enrique and Barton sold Off the top of my head :-) Hmm, I see a pattern. Africa'ish So you knew where he was, then? AWOL in Ghana sorting out visa issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 As a few have pointed out we have been quite lucky with injuries, now without having a clue what one actually is, how funny would it be if this bore hole was responsible for the lack of injuries? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Although HBA has been out for a season, would be interested to see how Man Utd would do if Rooney suffered a double leg break. Generally we haven't been bad with injuries though, I agree, especially with defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Ho I still think he's a bit of a puppet. As well as he's done since he's been here; like f*** would Alan Pardew be an outstanding candidate for the Newcastle job before he got it. He's in the little circle of those who run the club, no doubt about it - he's abiding by those who've given him the biggest gig of his life. It's just an absolute blessing that he A: happens to have the fans' interests at heart, and B: is a good manager. We've absolutely fallen on our feet with Pardew; he fits perfectly with the needs of the club, and the needs of the egos that run it. In any other world, he would never have been in line for the Newcastle job. As it turns out, he was the only candidate. How do you know he was the only candidate? I wasn't referring to their shortlist before/when Hughton got sacked, i just mean that he's turned out to be perfect for the job (and thus, the 'only' candidate). That said, it wouldn't surprise me if he was the only name they discussed. There's clearly a relationship there from pre-Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 As a few have pointed out we have been quite lucky with injuries, now without having a clue what one actually is, how funny would it be if this bore hole was responsible for the lack of injuries? A borehole is mainly used as a water well (but could also be used to extract natural gases for heating and such) so I doubt it tbh. Unless there's elixir like water running under the training ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 What's the point in it? Could it be used to make the pitches better. Not even sure why I am pursuing my ludicrous suggestion, I sound like James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Ho I still think he's a bit of a puppet. As well as he's done since he's been here; like f*** would Alan Pardew be an outstanding candidate for the Newcastle job before he got it. He's in the little circle of those who run the club, no doubt about it - he's abiding by those who've given him the biggest gig of his life. It's just an absolute blessing that he A: happens to have the fans' interests at heart, and B: is a good manager. We've absolutely fallen on our feet with Pardew; he fits perfectly with the needs of the club, and the needs of the egos that run it. In any other world, he would never have been in line for the Newcastle job. As it turns out, he was the only candidate. How do you know he was the only candidate? I wasn't referring to their shortlist before/when Hughton got sacked, i just mean that he's turned out to be perfect for the job (and thus, the 'only' candidate). That said, it wouldn't surprise me if he was the only name they discussed. There's clearly a relationship there from pre-Newcastle. That's not what Pards claims Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Ho I still think he's a bit of a puppet. As well as he's done since he's been here; like f*** would Alan Pardew be an outstanding candidate for the Newcastle job before he got it. He's in the little circle of those who run the club, no doubt about it - he's abiding by those who've given him the biggest gig of his life. It's just an absolute blessing that he A: happens to have the fans' interests at heart, and B: is a good manager. We've absolutely fallen on our feet with Pardew; he fits perfectly with the needs of the club, and the needs of the egos that run it. In any other world, he would never have been in line for the Newcastle job. As it turns out, he was the only candidate. How do you know he was the only candidate? I wasn't referring to their shortlist before/when Hughton got sacked, i just mean that he's turned out to be perfect for the job (and thus, the 'only' candidate). That said, it wouldn't surprise me if he was the only name they discussed. There's clearly a relationship there from pre-Newcastle. That's not what Pards claims Aye... i don't believe him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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