Cajun Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of shit managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. Great assumption on your part. Manager Wages are not silly money as compared to transfer fees or player wages, i have mention this before as well in thread. Its just how the management wants to sell the story and development of the them. And if you are a top manager, you will get a job where ever you go, unlike one season wonder Souness. If you are one of the top professionals in your own field, i find it baffling that people will over look your achievements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I find it pathetic you can even start a sentence with 'Wow the Pardew fans..'. Continue to look down on what we have done this season, carry on constantly trying to find the negatives before the positives. I will enjoy the good times while we have them and not waste my time thinking 'well this could go wrong, that might not go right, if such and such happens we might be in trouble...' Enjoy your time agonising over every thing you don't like and constantly waiting for it to go wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real positive comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Didier Claude Deschamps. I'm glad you put his middle name in there, I wouldn't have had a clue who you were on about otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real position comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. Realistically though, who else could possibly work under the conditions Ashley has set? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I find it pathetic you can even start a sentence with 'Wow the Pardew fans..'. Continue to look down on what we have done this season, carry on constantly trying to find the negatives before the positives. I will enjoy the good times while we have them and not waste my time thinking 'well this could go wrong, that might not go right, if such and such happens we might be in trouble...' Enjoy your time agonising over every thing you don't like and constantly waiting for it to go wrong Same could be said for you, popping you champagne and revering the table league position as often as you could. The season has not ended and maybe for some the league results or overachieving after coming up from the championship gives them a tinkling feeling somewhere. I still prefer to comment purely on what is happening on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real position comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. Realistically though, who else could possibly work under the conditions Ashley has set? Jamie and the magic fucking torch the way this lad is going on Find a manager who doesn't need a transition period? Keegan is the only person I can see capable of that and I can't see him coming back any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real position comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. What suggests Deshamps would've be in any way an improvement like? There's some absolute horseshit being spouted in this thread, it's embarrassing and utterly tedious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Didier Claude Deschamps. I'm glad you put his middle name in there, I wouldn't have had a clue who you were on about otherwise. yeah probably had too, since no names were mention and awkward silence was in the air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I find it pathetic you can even start a sentence with 'Wow the Pardew fans..'. Continue to look down on what we have done this season, carry on constantly trying to find the negatives before the positives. I will enjoy the good times while we have them and not waste my time thinking 'well this could go wrong, that might not go right, if such and such happens we might be in trouble...' Enjoy your time agonising over every thing you don't like and constantly waiting for it to go wrong Same could be said for you, popping you champagne and revering the table league position as often as you could. The season has not ended and maybe for some the league results or overachieving after coming up from the championship give them a tinkling feeling somewhere. I still prefer to comment purely on what is happening pitch. What is happening in the pitch is not fairly reflected after 25 games by where we are in the league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real position comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. What suggests Deshamps would've be in any way an improvement like? Any suggestions he wouldn't had done a better job? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real position comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. What suggests Deshamps would've be in any way an improvement like? Any suggestions he wouldn't had done a better job? Fucking hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real position comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. Realistically though, who else could possibly work under the conditions Ashley has set? Jamie and the magic f***ing torch the way this lad is going on Find a manager who doesn't need a transition period? Keegan is the only person I can see capable of that and I can't see him coming back any time soon. Read the post, if not for a top class manager ( who would have a better chance or likely to get it right) or dont risk another average manager through another transitition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real position comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. What suggests Deshamps would've be in any way an improvement like? Any suggestions he wouldn't had done a better job? Well for one, all those clamoring for Ben Arfa to be our main man could forget that one straight away I'd just like to know what qualifies him ahead of Pardew? You brought him up, now back it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I think he will be our next manager mind, be it 6 weeks, months, years...just a hunch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real position comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. What suggests Deshamps would've be in any way an improvement like? Any suggestions he wouldn't had done a better job? f***ing hell Funny how i can get slack for something that could go both ways. Is he a shit manager? Have you currently seen his clubs play football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real position comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. What suggests Deshamps would've be in any way an improvement like? Any suggestions he wouldn't had done a better job? Well for one, all those clamoring for Ben Arfa to be our main man could forget that one straight away I'd just like to know what qualifies him ahead of Pardew? You brought him up, now back it up. I suppose if you always need something to moan about you may as well appoint a manager who is going to make a decision you won't like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real position comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. Realistically though, who else could possibly work under the conditions Ashley has set? Jamie and the magic f***ing torch the way this lad is going on Find a manager who doesn't need a transition period? Keegan is the only person I can see capable of that and I can't see him coming back any time soon. Read the post, if not for a top class manager ( who would have a better chance or likely to get it right) or dont risk another average manager through another transitition Every manager, be it a top class one or an average one, has to go through a transitional period at a new club (that is, he has get to know the players already at the club; bring in his own personnel/get rid of people from the old regimel if need be - essentially it's a massive shake up/new era/new style etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real position comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. What suggests Deshamps would've be in any way an improvement like? Any suggestions he wouldn't had done a better job? f***ing hell Funny how i can get slack for something that could go both ways. Is he a shit manager? Have you currently seen his clubs play football? Let's appoint Mike Bassett, on the one hand he is a fictional manager but on the other hand his fictional England side did ok in the end. Could go both ways I suppose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real position comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. What suggests Deshamps would've be in any way an improvement like? Any suggestions he wouldn't had done a better job? Well for one, all those clamoring for Ben Arfa to be our main man could forget that one straight away I'd just like to know what qualifies him ahead of Pardew? You brought him up, now back it up. If you are a stats person, look it up. If you are a football person watch the current team he manages. I dont give two sticks on HBA, as i am aware of their history. I brought him up because he was interested in managing Newcastle at some point. Dont know how concrete his interest was but he had some real good positive comments. Just saying it is indeed possible to get some decent managers if they are available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real position comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. Realistically though, who else could possibly work under the conditions Ashley has set? Jamie and the magic f***ing torch the way this lad is going on Find a manager who doesn't need a transition period? Keegan is the only person I can see capable of that and I can't see him coming back any time soon. Read the post, if not for a top class manager ( who would have a better chance or likely to get it right) or dont risk another average manager through another transitition Every manager, be it a top class one or an average one, has to go through a transitional period at a new club (that is, he has get to know the players already at the club; bring in his own personne/get rid of people from the old regimel if need be - essentially it's a massive shake up/new era/new style etc). You silly boy, quality manager = instant, guaranteed success. It's how logic works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real position comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. Realistically though, who else could possibly work under the conditions Ashley has set? Jamie and the magic f***ing torch the way this lad is going on Find a manager who doesn't need a transition period? Keegan is the only person I can see capable of that and I can't see him coming back any time soon. Read the post, if not for a top class manager ( who would have a better chance or likely to get it right) or dont risk another average manager through another transitition Every manager, be it a top class one or an average one, has to go through a transitional period at a new club (that is, he has get to know the players already at the club; bring in his own personne/get rid of people from the old regimel if need be - essentially it's a massive shake up/new era/new style etc). You silly boy, quality manager = instant, guaranteed success. It's how logic works. Ooops, silly me indeed! D'oh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The top managers usually go to the top clubs or those who are willing to pay very silly money. One bad move to a unstable club and it could end their career. We take a gamble (one I wasn't happy with) we far exceed expectations despite playing the worst football ever apparently and some are looking to upgrade despite the long list of s*** managers we have had since 2004 (barring Hughton really). Forgetting Souness, Allardyce (touted by HTT as better than Pardew), Roeder, Kinnear etc.. Managerial appointments often go very wrong, not sure why some want to change up when we have one going good. Living is a fantasy land of a mass of quality football managers desperate to have a go with us. As i said if we find a replacement for Pardew, he must be a top manager if not dont risk the transition period. We have being through many s*** managers since Bobby but not one has being a top manager. Still waiting for the club to open to eyes really. Didier Claude Deschamps actually made some real position comments when we had the position available, and look who we go on and employ. Realistically though, who else could possibly work under the conditions Ashley has set? Jamie and the magic f***ing torch the way this lad is going on Find a manager who doesn't need a transition period? Keegan is the only person I can see capable of that and I can't see him coming back any time soon. Read the post, if not for a top class manager ( who would have a better chance or likely to get it right) or dont risk another average manager through another transitition Every manager, be it a top class one or an average one, has to go through a transitional period at a new club (that is, he has get to know the players already at the club; bring in his own personne/get rid of people from the old regimel if need be - essentially it's a massive shake up/new era/new style etc). You silly boy, quality manager = instant, guaranteed success. It's how logic works. Well i guess it has never happen in the history of football. I am so native. not bother to have a discussion over your allegations. Imo The role of the manager plays too big a part to be ignore long term and if someone clearly better than Pardew comes along and is Willing to join us. Why not? But its seems impossible to some that a rare thing like that might actually materialize. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Pardew's doing a really good job so it's mad to want to get rid of him. Think even HTT would agree it would be foolish to try and replace him right now - would do nothing but add to more instability when what we need is a few years of steady improvement. Our owner is also highly erratic and idiosyncratic, which means he's a problem waiting to blow up for most managers, even someone as placid and diplomatic as Hughton - but thankfully Pardew has his ear, for now at least, so we should take advantage of that. We've also got an improving scouting set-up and a basic idea to blood youngsters and Pardew seems to buy into some of that - why disrupt things that are going smoothly? Also, does anyone really trust Mike and Derek to identify the right replacement? Saying all that I don't think he's "massively overachieved" as some have said - a good job yes, but i think Liverpool are the only side better than us who we're above in the league, and we were after all an unprofessional 45 mins away from finishing 8th last year. I'd be disappointed if Everton, Stoke, the mackems, Norwich or Villa etc were above us. I thought Everton would be at the start of the season, but it's pretty clear now that they're not as good as they have been for the past few years. I reckon 7th is about our natural level right now, so 6th is overachievement, but not massively so. Of course Pardew deserves some credit for helping structure the squad we have though it's unclear the extent to which ins and outs were his doing. On top of that there are a few issues about his management, the bad to go with the good - even Robson and Keegan had much publicised weak spots. Arguing that they don't exist because we're 6th is stupid, though not as much as people saying he's all bad or merely another Souness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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