Dinho lad Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Won't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I take everything back I ever said about Pardew being a cunt and not good enough for Newcastle United. While I stand by my criticism of our performances, his tactics, use of subs etc. throughout the season despite very good results, in the final matches he has shown he is capable of getting this team playing good football, utilising the correct tactics, using the right subs and generally showing a massive degree of knowing what to do, to which he has won me over. Top 5 is great and so is our form but although great as stated, for me its about the football and I can see things have gradually improved and will hopefully continue to do so to the point where this will not prove a fluke. Hopefully anyway. European football back at Newcastle is a great thing, something long missed by me and no doubt everyone else connected with the club. It gives us something extra to look forward to next season. I am absolutely delighted he won the manager of the season too and he deserves it without doubt. Above all else though, he and others including Ashley and Llambias even, collectively, have made us a respectable club once again in the eyes of everyone and given us fans a club to be proud of, a club we can believe in. Indeed you get the impression many are very envious. I know my brother in law, an Arsenal season ticket holder, wishes they had Carr and co and signed the players we have in Cabaye, Ba, Tiote, Cisse et al. I always believe the manager is key and sets the whole tempo if you like and Pardew is obviously leading the club in the right way, in every way. Again I stand by all my critcisim of his tactics and many of our performances but I have been proven wrong about him not being good enough or capable of getting us playing good football etc. I also feel ashamed at some of my comments, i.e. the cockney cunt shit. Pardew is actually proving a good success story and as Wilkinson said, there are good managers and coaches, they sometimes just need a chance. From Hughton to Pardew, two men who have proven they are good enough or can be given the right chance and opportunity. Above everything, it feels great to be supporting this club once again. Hopefully you know who and co will not fuck things up because things are as good as they have been since Sir Bobby's days and in many ways, even better. Credit to them all, owner, MD, manager, coaches, players and even the fans. It has been an outstanding season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Hallelujah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 About fucking time. Well done, HTT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I don't buy into all the 'Pards' or 'Pardiola' shit though. Too much akin to the King Kenny stuff for me. I do not sing along to the 'Pardew is our king' thing either. Hardcore me Seriously though, our football at times in the final 7 or so games was very good, much better than what we had served up before and as a result we looked a top 4 side and if we can strengthen well and continue playing that way, there is no reason why we cannot continue to challenge for those spots. We have the players, we can play the football required and in Pardew, we have the right man seemingly. Even if at first and for long spells I thought otherwise. Proves what I know.... The best thing for me though is all the positivity around the club, from the fans to the press, it is everywhere and when that's the case NUFC can be a powerful force. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I don't buy into all the 'Pards' or 'Pardiola' s*** though. That's all tongue in cheek tbf. By the majority at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I take everything back I ever said about Pardew being a cunt and not good enough for Newcastle United. While I stand by my criticism of our performances, his tactics, use of subs etc. throughout the season despite very good results, in the final matches he has shown he is capable of getting this team playing good football, utilising the correct tactics, using the right subs and generally showing a massive degree of knowing what to do, to which he has won me over. Top 5 is great and so is our form but although great as stated, for me its about the football and I can see things have gradually improved and will hopefully continue to do so to the point where this will not prove a fluke. Hopefully anyway. European football back at Newcastle is a great thing, something long missed by me and no doubt everyone else connected with the club. It gives us something extra to look forward to next season. I am absolutely delighted he won the manager of the season too and he deserves it without doubt. Above all else though, he and others including Ashley and Llambias even, collectively, have made us a respectable club once again in the eyes of everyone and given us fans a club to be proud of, a club we can believe in. Indeed you get the impression many are very envious. I know my brother in law, an Arsenal season ticket holder, wishes they had Carr and co and signed the players we have in Cabaye, Ba, Tiote, Cisse et al. I always believe the manager is key and sets the whole tempo if you like and Pardew is obviously leading the club in the right way, in every way. Again I stand by all my critcisim of his tactics and many of our performances but I have been proven wrong about him not being good enough or capable of getting us playing good football etc. I also feel ashamed at some of my comments, i.e. the cockney cunt shit. Pardew is actually proving a good success story and as Wilkinson said, there are good managers and coaches, they sometimes just need a chance. From Hughton to Pardew, two men who have proven they are good enough or can be given the right chance and opportunity. Above everything, it feels great to be supporting this club once again. Hopefully you know who and co will not fuck things up because things are as good as they have been since Sir Bobby's days and in many ways, even better. Credit to them all, owner, MD, manager, coaches, players and even the fans. It has been an outstanding season. Top post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Well done HTT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 By the way, there is still room for massive improvement. The Everton performance especially first half was a debacle of sorts given the importance of the match. He needs to stick to 4-3-3 given our players or if he is to go 4-4-2 he needs to deploy the right players for it. That said, both would work with the players we have if we kept to playing football rather than constant long ball which was deployed too much at Goodison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 By the way, there is still room for massive improvement. The Everton performance especially first half was a debacle of sorts given the importance of the match. He needs to stick to 4-3-3 given our players or if he is to go 4-4-2 he needs to deploy the right players for it. That said, both would work with the players we have if we kept to playing football rather than constant long ball which was deployed too much at Goodison. Totally, I'm still scratching my head at what happened at the Everton game. Nothing to lose so we should have gone for it and played to our strengths instead of what we saw. Hopefully being stronger and more settled in the fullback areas especially will allow him to go with what we are best at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I don't buy into all the 'Pards' or 'Pardiola' s*** though. That's all tongue in cheek tbf. By the majority at least. This Good post HTT by the way. I'm a newbie on here but if I'm reading this right, you've had your mind changed on AP so fair play for calling it. When he joined I was raging tbf, but took the view that it was better to judge him 12/18 months in, rather than on past performances. And here we are, amazingly, everything having worked out better than expected. All I can say is, Happy days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 By the way, there is still room for massive improvement. The Everton performance especially first half was a debacle of sorts given the importance of the match. He needs to stick to 4-3-3 given our players or if he is to go 4-4-2 he needs to deploy the right players for it. That said, both would work with the players we have if we kept to playing football rather than constant long ball which was deployed too much at Goodison. Good post, as a professional manager judged on results I can see why Pardew sometimes does more conservative things than we might do. But you're right he needs to select the right players if he goes 442. There have been a few mystery bad performances like Everton, wonder if there's a reason beyond the normal "off day" explanation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPalAl Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 By the way, there is still room for massive improvement. The Everton performance especially first half was a debacle of sorts given the importance of the match. He needs to stick to 4-3-3 given our players or if he is to go 4-4-2 he needs to deploy the right players for it. That said, both would work with the players we have if we kept to playing football rather than constant long ball which was deployed too much at Goodison. Good post, as a professional manager judged on results I can see why Pardew sometimes does more conservative things than we might do. But you're right he needs to select the right players if he goes 442. There have been a few mystery bad performances like Everton, wonder if there's a reason beyond the normal "off day" explanation. One of the names linked with the Liverpool job according to todays Sun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Would have been more surprised if he hadn't been linked to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 They link everyone with every job really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toondra Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 i think the main problem with hoofball is the centerback williamson, all he does with the ball is give back the ball to krul....long ball...or try to find cissé and ba...long ball. defenders are first attack players, so with improvment in the defense with players good on the ball who can find the midfield players with a straight pass or the wingers it will improve all the game. definitly, i think a debuchy and a better player than williamson can change the style of playing of the team. williamson and simpson, your are good, but not enough good to play good football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Completely agree about Williamson. I almost find it hard to fault him for it because he clearly knows his own limitations and more often than not would just take the easy route - pass back to Krul or kick it long. Definitely did it way more than necessary though. The difference between him and Colo handling a difficult pass is comical. Looks like there should be about 5 levels between them. As much to do with Colo's brilliance as anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tyson Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 By the way, there is still room for massive improvement. The Everton performance especially first half was a debacle of sorts given the importance of the match. He needs to stick to 4-3-3 given our players or if he is to go 4-4-2 he needs to deploy the right players for it. That said, both would work with the players we have if we kept to playing football rather than constant long ball which was deployed too much at Goodison. I don't think Pardew fully appreciates the defensive coverage, and the shelter Tiote provides to the back 4. Couple Tiote's workrate (and he is the sacrificial lamb in midfield, in that doesn't commit or bomb forward into shooting positions), with the nuisance value when the wide attackers (Ba/Cisse - HBA) drop back and the 433/451 isn't quite as defensively suspect as some people believe - at least Pardew when he switches to a defensive minded 442. And Ba-Cisse don't have the tools (and arguably the desire either) to be utilised as a work-horse/Twin-Towers set-up, where a high premium is placed on adhering to a physical, back-to-goal centre-forward role. As opposed, in the 433, the outfield six look as if they genuinely enjoy their football. We certainly play a fluent, possession orientated football in the 433 - and the first point of team defense is possession retention. Williamson needs to be relegated or removed from the pecking order. The bloke doesn't have the composure and technical ability required to deal with the opposition strikers' defensive press. It's all good well to upgrade the fullback positions in the Summer, but you can't continue have a liability like Willo there - who doesn't have the ability to play a simple outlet pass (to the flanks/rb). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 mackem at work: "Pardew has resigned is the Rumour. Seriously as well" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 If a Mackem said that to me I'd hurt him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 If a Mackem said that to me I'd hurt him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 mackem at work: "Pardew has resigned is the Rumour. Seriously as well" Yeah it's true, a Mag on a horse told me as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 asked him the crack, "had a fall out with llamblias apparently" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 You should be giving him a crack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Sounds like he's on crack tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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