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Deuce

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yeah it's getting like one of those scenes in the inbetweeners which isn't one of the "we all do that when we're young and bant" scenes but one of "these are infuriating bants" scenes.

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I can't see Carroll playing well in a 4-3-3 unless he was in the middle, but surely Cisse will get that spot? I know we need cover but Cisse, Ba and Carroll all wanting the same one position isn't going to work. So if we DO get him I imagine we're back to 4-4-2. Carroll and Cisse/Ba in a 4-4-2 could be fucking lethal, but then you're looking at who will play on the wings.

 

Jonas on the left and Ben Arfa on the right doesn't feel like it would work for me. Carroll needs good balls in, which Jonas has consistently proven he can't deliver, at least not from the left. Likewise with Ben Arfa on the right, he'd have to jink back inside onto his stronger foot all the time. Maybe switch them? But then is Ben Arfa really a winger at all? He couldn't play just behind the front 2 as we'd have Tiote and Cabaye in the middle, and we need width for Carroll.

 

Not sure where I stand on this one at all.

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Ishmael

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yeah it's getting like one of those scenes in the inbetweeners which isn't one of the "we all do that when we're young and daft" scenes but one of "these are infuriating twats" scenes.

 

Good bants.

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CheikBoom

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A little story to share about Pardew... One of my distant uncles works for the police/Newcastle as head of security or something like that. Checks out all the hotels before away games, and obviously home matches. Boxing day last year when we where due to play Bolton away he was due to travel down there on Christmas Day and do final checks on the hotel to ensure everything was alright for the players and staff etc.

 

Anyways, Pardew told him no father should be away from his family at Christmas. Gave him the day off and told him to spend it with his family. Top man. Top manager. Respect to the man.

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http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/news/north-east-news/2012/07/29/toon-tea-lady-would-love-to-serve-mike-ashley-79310-31496857/2/

TOON MANAGERS' TEA ORDERS

 

ALAN PARDEW: Tea, 1 sugar.

 

SIR BOBBY ROBSON: Coffee and 1 and 1/2 sugars.

 

KEVIN KEEGAN: Tea, 1 sugar.

 

GRAEME SOUNESS: Tea, 1 sugar

 

RUUD GULLIT: Tea, no sugar.

 

SAM ALLARDYCE: Tea, 1 sugar

 

JOHN CARVER: Tea, no sugar.

 

:lol:

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Elliottman

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Pards sometimes says the odd thing that grates on me, things like 'Mike has put a lot of money in' or 'We cant do anything if someone bids big for one of our players' - the odd comment. But overall, when I read his interviews, he really seems to be growing into this job and I cant help but be impressed by him. Reading his interview in the Sunday Sun this morning and talking about complacency and keeping things fresh, really gets me up for the new season.

 

I honestly think Pards could be here for a good few years which would be pretty remarkable considering our usual manager turnover ratio.

 

Keep it up Pards lad.

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BrettNUFC

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Pards sometimes says the odd thing that grates on me, things like 'Mike has put a lot of money in' or 'We cant do anything if someone bids big for one of our players' - the odd comment. But overall, when I read his interviews, he really seems to be growing into this job and I cant help but be impressed by him. Reading his interview in the Sunday Sun this morning and talking about complacency and keeping things fresh, really gets me up for the new season.

 

I honestly think Pards could be here for a good few years which would be pretty remarkable considering our usual manager turnover ratio.

Keep it up Pards lad.

 

I was talking about this last night, feels good but a bit strange that i can't really see Newcastle without Pards lol really does feel like he's here for the long haul and long may it continue.

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AlanSkÃrare

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Question for the forum on Pardew. I'm a bit divided on this issue myself, so interesting to hear what others think.

 

With Pardew, many members on here were raging about his appointment because of several reasons. One of the most annoying being the things we were told by GolfMag about two months before his appointment (around beating the mackems 5-1 if I remember correctly).

 

That information clearly suggests Pardew sort of back-stabbed his colleague Chris Hughton and was completley aware of what was going on before his appointment. He then clearly lied in the interviews when asked about how much he knew beforehand.

 

Many of us, me included, swore never to accept him because of this. It's not how football should work and it was nothing short of discgraceful with regards to Hughton.

 

Anyway, with last seasons results taken in to the equation and the current running of the club, what are peoples' personal feelings towards Pardew?

 

I somehow still struggle to accept his character because of what happened, but I'm still glad he's our manager considering the fantastic job he seems to be doing. He seems to learn from his mistakes and he's also learnt how to communicate with the fans in a more sensible way than his initial failings (the Carroll saga etc.)

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Pards sometimes says the odd thing that grates on me, things like 'Mike has put a lot of money in' or 'We cant do anything if someone bids big for one of our players' - the odd comment. But overall, when I read his interviews, he really seems to be growing into this job and I cant help but be impressed by him. Reading his interview in the Sunday Sun this morning and talking about complacency and keeping things fresh, really gets me up for the new season.

 

I honestly think Pards could be here for a good few years which would be pretty remarkable considering our usual manager turnover ratio.

 

Keep it up Pards lad.

 

Agree with most of that but as ever, any manager (aside from Ferguson) is only 5-10 bad results away from the sack so I think it's unlikely. Us finishing 5th and showcasing the talents at the club only increases the pressure on him to deliver. Just the way it is.

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Elliottman

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Pards sometimes says the odd thing that grates on me, things like 'Mike has put a lot of money in' or 'We cant do anything if someone bids big for one of our players' - the odd comment. But overall, when I read his interviews, he really seems to be growing into this job and I cant help but be impressed by him. Reading his interview in the Sunday Sun this morning and talking about complacency and keeping things fresh, really gets me up for the new season.

 

I honestly think Pards could be here for a good few years which would be pretty remarkable considering our usual manager turnover ratio.

Keep it up Pards lad.

 

I was talking about this last night, feels good but a bit strange that i can't really see Newcastle without Pards lol really does feel like he's here for the long haul and long may it continue.

 

Feels great. Stability for the first time since SBR. We keep hearing him and Carver and a couple of the players even talking about 'a new style of play' which you must assume is keeping the ball better - which is promising. He seems to add little thins every break/pre season to help us progress. We'll have rough patches again no doubt this season, but we have to make sure we dont get on his back. There was a period last season around the Brighton game where a couple were calling for his head which I know people have since held their hands up.

 

If everyone at the club including the fans keep with the plan, the future is surely bright.

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Elliottman

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Question for the forum on Pardew. I'm a bit divided on this issue myself, so interesting to hear what others think.

 

With Pardew, many members on here were raging about his appointment because of several reasons. One of the most annoying being the things we were told by GolfMag about two months before his appointment (around beating the mackems 5-1 if I remember correctly).

 

That information clearly suggests Pardew sort of back-stabbed his colleague Chris Hughton and was completley aware of what was going on before his appointment. He then clearly lied in the interviews when asked about how much he knew beforehand.

 

Many of us, me included, swore never to accept him because of this. It's not how football should work and it was nothing short of discgraceful with regards to Hughton.

 

Anyway, with last seasons results taken in to the equation and the current running of the club, what are peoples' personal feelings towards Pardew?

 

I somehow still struggle to accept his character because of what happened, but I'm still glad he's our manager considering the fantastic job he seems to be doing. He seems to learn from his mistakes and he's also learnt how to communicate with the fans in a more sensible way than his initial failings (the Carroll saga etc.)

 

I think the "backstabbing" is a common thing in football, or in all walks of life actually. Plenty of companies look for replacements for employees well before they sack the current one. It's just how it works.

 

I think the bad feeling towards this was built up more because everyone loved Hughton, and it seemed unnecessary at the time.

 

Yip, nail on the head. I was raging at the time, but its a results industry and he got them.

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Colos Short and Curlies

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You can flip it on its head (just look at Wolves last season or us for any previous appointment) when a manager is sacked and the chase for his replacement goes on in public, it looks horrible and amateurish.

 

Its very likely that Pards has a confidentiality clause in his contract preventing him from saying anything about the talks going on before CH was sacked, so I have no feelings either way on this.

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"Backstabbing." :lol:

 

Welcome to the adult world of employment. There's no indication that Pardew and Hughton were close at anytime, why should Pards have shown any loyalty to Chris?

 

He was offered a job, the biggest one of his career. There's no reason why he shouldn't have took it.

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"Backstabbing." :lol:

 

Welcome to the adult world of employment. There's no indication that Pardew and Hughton were close at anytime, why should Pards have shown any loyalty to Chris?

 

He was offered a job, the biggest one of his career. There's no reason why he shouldn't have took it.

 

Agree.

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AlanSkÃrare

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"Backstabbing." :lol:

 

Welcome to the adult world of employment. There's no indication that Pardew and Hughton were close at anytime, why should Pards have shown any loyalty to Chris?

 

He was offered a job, the biggest one of his career. There's no reason why he shouldn't have took it.

 

Out of respect for his colleague who was doing a good job?

 

I think there is another element to it as well as he was not in a position to get a job like Newcastle judging on his previous record. The fact that he was Llambias's and Ashley's mate made things worse for me.

 

I'm still not arguing he shouldn't be here and I completley agree that managers being tapped up is something that clubs are right to do at times. Just saying this case was a bit different as Hughton - going up in his career - was replaced by Pardew who has just left a League One club. It was on the cards for months as well, even when Hughton was doing well.

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All this "he only got the job because he was casino buddies with Mike and Del" is another piece of tiresome tosh that gets trotted out.

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All this "he only got the job because he was casino buddies with Mike and Del" is another piece of tiresome tosh that gets trotted out.

 

The one where he'd ran up debts at the casino and took the job to pay them off was class :lol: :lol:

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