Beren Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Blackburn's form is promising too. We're 16th form-wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 And the more dire things look, the more I trust our players to dig in. I'm almost tempted to say a loss would be better than a draw against Wolves. Depends on which team scores the last minute equaliser, I guess... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I've noticed some people seem to think the team spirit has died out but is there any evidence of this? Stoke was terrible, fair enough, but we didn't lose the spirit after Bolton (A) or West Brom (A), both terrible games as well. Looking at the last eight games, we've came from 4-0 down against the 2nd placed team, drew 1-1 with Champions League quarter-finalsts Spurs, became only the fourth team to win at St. Andrews and drew with ten men against 7th place Bolton. We had a bad result against Stoke but it seems to be the only reference point for our recent form for some people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Frankly, I think the Stoke defeat has sent some people into a downward spiral and they've assumed everything is in some sort of irreparable state. There's quite a difference between a disappointing end to a season that looked like being rather impressive, and going down. Lose = you're going down, win = why were you worried? And yes, judging by a fair few posts on here, it really does seem to be that simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Seriously some of the crap on this thread is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Lose = you're going down, win = why were you worried? And yes, judging by a fair few posts on here, it really does seem to be that simple. It's the same with players too. Harper was a pretty decent keeper after he kept us in the Everton game a couple of weeks ago. A poor performance against Stoke and he's suddenly the shittest keeper ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 The rapid nature of our recent decline has left me feeling fairly queasy. I'm looking forward to the point (which i'm still confident will come) where we can nervously laugh off the thought of another relegation. I thought that was going to be Birmingham but the form has tailed off quite stupendously since then. We've still got three of the teams below us to come to SJP. Obviously, it all rests on those matches. Wolves is a big game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I'm worried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 This is a curse thread and no mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 just realised that for no team is the 'Pld' column greater than 'Pts'. everybody has averaged 1 point per match, minimum. that is mental. has there ever been a season where the bottom team finished on 30+ points? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 just realised that for no team is the 'Pld' column greater than 'Pts'. everybody has averaged 1 point per match, minimum. that is mental. has there ever been a season where the bottom team finished on 30+ points? Nottingham Forest finished bottom with 34 points in 96/97. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 wow. looking back, that relegation battle was pretty close too. i'd wager that 34 will get beaten this season though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 The home games are ridiculously key to the rest of our season. Out of the four we've got left, three are very very winnable. Maximum 9 out of 9 points and we're safe. Shame we've been terrible at home up til now like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Not convinced 42 points will necessarily be enough to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Not convinced 42 points will necessarily be enough to stay up. We would be incredibly unlucky to go down on 42. Has it ever happened? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Not convinced 42 points will necessarily be enough to stay up. We would be incredibly unlucky to go down on 42. Has it ever happened? Once, West Ham. I think 7 points will be enough which will take us to 43 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brazilianbob Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Not convinced 42 points will necessarily be enough to stay up. We would be incredibly unlucky to go down on 42. Has it ever happened? No we wouldn't be unlucky! We would go down for the same reason as last time, which was we didn't have the players capable of winning enough points to guarantee safety in the EPL! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Plus my comment was just about home games. I don't think we'll lose every single away game we've got left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 And even if we somehow do end up fighting a survival battle, I fancy our chances more in a home game against WBA with the likes of Barton, Nolan, Best and Tiote in the form that they are in this season, than I do away at Villa with Owen and Martins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 http://blog.sundaysun.co.uk/2011/03/newcastle-united-wont-go-down.html Good article, this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I remember the key 3 home games last relegation (Portsmouth, Boro and Fulham) and the fact we only got 4 points sent us down. Yet even if we're that bad again last 8 games that'll probably be enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 http://blog.sundaysun.co.uk/2011/03/newcastle-united-wont-go-down.html Good article, this. The Manchester United postponement could actually be a blessing for the club, if we can capitalise on this next three games. Beat Wolves and get something at Blackpool and Villa and it will ease things so much more for that dreaded Liverpool/Man U/Chelsea treble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Very humbly written and a good article - can't say I agree about four points all but guaranteeing safety. I'm very concerned about our next two games as we are both Tiote-less and Jose-less and do not share his optimism. Wolves are playing very, very well. Newcastle are magnificent at playing badly on their day, too and I struggle to think of another team that plays quite as poorly as us when they play poorly. I worry but hope for the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonarmymia Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Not convinced 42 points will necessarily be enough to stay up. We would be incredibly unlucky to go down on 42. Has it ever happened? Once, West Ham. I think 7 points will be enough which will take us to 43 points. 2002/3 season, West Ham went down on 42 points (bolton 17th place on 44, mackems bottom on 19 points) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ykmkmdd Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 West Ham went down with 42, but a -17 goal difference we're unlikely to match. Based on the current bottom clubs being 2 points up on games played, I'm thinking 40 will be enough to stay up, especially if backed with a decent GD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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