AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 True Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Did Pardew sign Perez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I know when people say this it sounds like hyperbole, but that is genuinely one of the worst articles I've ever seen. Armstrong not an out-and-out striker? Carver's training schedule impressive? He was happy with the squad, he even said so. Like others have asked, how can this hypocrisy not be illuminated? It's mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 For the love of Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Not sure if this has been posted- John Carver believes even Arsene Wenger would struggle with so many injuries http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/john-carver-believes-even-arsene-8878735 John Carver believes his public backing from Arsene Wenger came because the Frenchman has full appreciation for the predicament Newcastle United find themselves in right now. Wenger stated Carver had what it takes to be manager in the build-up to the game at St James’ Park. Newcastle have just 13 outfield players to pick from against the Gunners. On hearing Wenger’s remarks, Carver said: “That’s nice because people in the game understand what is going on. “He understands that if he was here in these circumstances, he would have a problem dealing with it. “We’ve seen sides in the past when they pick up four or five injuries, it effects them – especially when it’s best players. “We’ve got eight or nine, and six or seven would be in the team.” Rolando Aarons has been sighted on the training field again, but is not ready for the game with Arsenal, while Massadio Haidara and Mehdi Abeid are also out. With the likes of Steven Taylor, Cheick Tiote, Paul Dummett and Siem De Jong all long-term injuries, Carver is struggling to pick a team. Fabricio Coloccini is suspended for three games and Papiss Cisse still has six games to go. He said: “We are no further forward with Massadio Haidara, so he won’t be involved this weekend. “Rolando Aarons is getting closer and Mehdi is a week or two away which will help. “But you are still looking at six or seven long term. “You are looking at the summer.” I thought he was happy with the squad? And of course Wenger's gonna say that Carver has what it take to be a manager, it's a piss easy 6 points per season! Or for the one season that we'll be in the PL under him. Can't believe this guy will be in charge next season. It's absolute torture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Why does no one pull them up on lack of investment, letting players go knowing full well a couple of injuries will wreck the 2nd half of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 The problem you have is that, if you finish mid-table, for Ashley that's basically a result. Not going down, still be here for another year of mega tv money, still probably be here the year after next for the even bigger mega-money. If Carver gets you there, then Ashley has the perfect situation - a cheap, low ego, low profile (compared to some of the others) manager who isn't going to stand up to him or throw his toys out the pram if he doesn't get the money he wants to spend, and who is basically just over the moon to be Newcastle manager. And that is the problem with the premier league for the likes of us, you, Everton. Maybe Sunderland at a push. Finishing half way is acceptable, it'll rake in the cash, the difference between finishing there and, say, sixth or fifth is a run in the Europa League (which earns almost zero money). To go from 10th or 11th to 6th or 5th is going to cost money - better, spendier manager, better, more expensive coaching team, better players. More half decent players so you've got a decent bench. Maybe you'd also get a decent cup run, it'd be nice, but hey ho, you're probably not going to win it, so getting to a semi final, as we have, is seen as an extraordinary achievement. The fans will get a nice day out at Wembley, it'll keep them off your back for a bit. That is the mindset that is slowly strangling clubs with a history of being in amongst the top clubs, winning bits of silverware, being in the Premier League almost all the time. It is what makes supporting clubs like ours actually one of the worst positions to be in. Even the plucky recently promoted sides get more out of it, they're just dazzled by being in the money league. It's all a big adventure for them. Just like it is for the Champions League sides with their top flight experience utterly, totally different to ours. It's going to be a long time till we get to play Barcelona again. No mid week trips to Monaco for us. It is just to involving for the likes of Lerner or Ashley - time and money - to really try to be anything better in the long run, so fuck it, just bob along in nothing-land and try to keep the supporters (who they probably call "customers" these days) happy enough not to give you too much grief. I'll tell you what got Sherwood our job, for example. It's the fact he's worked with youth coaching, and when you say that to Lerner or Fox (our CEO), their eyes light up. Youth players = cheap players. We tried that for two whole seasons under Lambert, naively throwing kids in when they're not ready, basically in the hope that they'll muddle through and in time sort of magically become good enough. It doesn't work. it makes it horrible to watch. I bet what you like that's exactly what they try again, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Why does no one pull them up on lack of investment, letting players go knowing full well a couple of injuries will wreck the 2nd half of the season. Cameron says the Chronic have done so plenty of times before and will have more in tomorrows paper........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 At least the terrible results make the situation crystal clear - if Ashley appoints Carver it's proof he literally doesn't care about the football side at all. If Carver had shown any ability at all it would be more arguable that it was a football decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie1892 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Why does no one pull them up on lack of investment, letting players go knowing full well a couple of injuries will wreck the 2nd half of the season. Cameron says the Chronic have done so plenty of times before and will have more in tomorrows paper........... I'm sure it'll be incisive and hard-hitting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 At least the terrible results make the situation crystal clear - if Ashley appoints Carver it's proof he literally doesn't care about the football side at all. If Carver had shown any ability at all it would be more arguable that it was a football decision. I know we don't need any more proof, it's just the sliver of hope that appeared when Pardew left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 If Ashley does one more unimaginably horrific thing then it proves that every other previous unimaginably horrific thing wasn't a one off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 On the subject of brummie's post, I had a really depressing conversation with my Ipswich-supporting mate along the lines of 'you're in the Premier League, just enjoy it'. Couldn't believe what I was hearing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 If Ashley does one more unimaginably horrific thing then it proves that every other previous unimaginably horrific thing wasn't a one off. I know all of this David, but it seemed just possible that we might appoint a competent manager. I didn't expect anything else to change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Summer is the real test imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 If Ashley does one more unimaginably horrific thing then it proves that every other previous unimaginably horrific thing wasn't a one off. Got to give him time, Dave, this club needs stability. We can't keep just chopping and changing owners willy nilly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 http://i.cubeupload.com/O1caxE.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Summer is the real test imo If this sounds good in Latin, we could make it our fucking motto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Summer is the real test imo If this sounds good in Latin, we could make it our f***ing motto. Aestate rei probatio est , ut ego arbitror - not too bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 With the £1.5m move to bring Pérez from Tenerife – and what smart business that was – driven by Pardew, Really, by Pardew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Did Pardew sign Perez? managers or coaches do not sign players here ,Graham (lostmetouch)Carr gives list to Charnley who picks 3 names from 12 like a lucky dip and there ya go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 forgive my ignorance but what is the "lick" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 With the £1.5m move to bring Pérez from Tenerife – and what smart business that was – driven by Pardew, Really, by Pardew? That was my question! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 forgive my ignorance but what is the "lick" Honest John has a tendancy to lick his lips http://i.cubeupload.com/1hwsOS.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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