SSN: Charles N'Zogbia to the mackems off

[Guest Antec]

Right who's next?

[TRon]

What's this about Baggio like?

 

Didn't he make a bet about N'zogbia signing?

 

 

He must have been pissed to have gotten that deluded.

[Foluwashola]

I'd have though that it'd finally clicked that nothing came from the club that we were ever even that strongly in for the bloke? But no, people are actually still complaining that the club has strung their fantasies of N'Zogbia along.

 

Yeah. It's not like we bid £10m for him in the Jan transfer window to give people the idea we were interested in him like. Beats me where people get these ideas from.

 

So what's your criticism there, that we bid for him? I thought you were annoyed because we didn't?

 

If we were willing to pay £12m in January then why not pay £10m now?

Well I guess people are angry for allowing themselves to be sucked in again and believing the club were actually serious about spending money on new top quality players.

Maybe some are starting to think the £12m offer was just another stunt by the fkn idiots at this club, more cloak & dagger bullshit.

 

FFS Skirge man, how is the £12m offer a stunt when we denied ever putting a bid in for him!?!?!

 

What is the difference between a "feeler" and a bid like?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I'd have though that it'd finally clicked that nothing came from the club that we were ever even that strongly in for the bloke? But no, people are actually still complaining that the club has strung their fantasies of N'Zogbia along.

 

Yeah. It's not like we bid £10m for him in the Jan transfer window to give people the idea we were interested in him like. Beats me where people get these ideas from.

 

So what's your criticism there, that we bid for him? I thought you were annoyed because we didn't?

 

I'm annoyed at the bullshit. I could accept we don't want him because we don't want him or we believe we've bought better, but bidding £10-12m on the last day of the transfer window when you know it's too late to sign anyone is bullshit. Just as bidding for Bent and Richardson was bullshit the year before. Now when we could actually sign Zog we are running a mile. That is what is mildly annoying.

 

I don't really get this. Do you think we should succeed with every bid we make? And if not, why do you assume that every unsuccessful bid is bullshit?

[BottledDog]

When was it denied ?

 

Pretty sure it was fairly soon after the trasnfer window ended. Quotes from Pards.

 

 

/Will have a rummage if I get a minute.

[Guest axel]

Hopefully this will mean the end of all wannabe ITK'ers on twitter.

[Sifu]

Disappointed by this latest development like. Time to move on and concentrate on bringing in a new striker and left back.

 

All in all, guess Ashley wasn't impressed with N'Zogbia's fee/wage demands. (Can't see a problem with the fee personally :s).

[BottledDog]

I'd have though that it'd finally clicked that nothing came from the club that we were ever even that strongly in for the bloke? But no, people are actually still complaining that the club has strung their fantasies of N'Zogbia along.

 

Yeah. It's not like we bid £10m for him in the Jan transfer window to give people the idea we were interested in him like. Beats me where people get these ideas from.

 

So what's your criticism there, that we bid for him? I thought you were annoyed because we didn't?

 

If we were willing to pay £12m in January then why not pay £10m now?

Well I guess people are angry for allowing themselves to be sucked in again and believing the club were actually serious about spending money on new top quality players.

Maybe some are starting to think the £12m offer was just another stunt by the fkn idiots at this club, more cloak & dagger bullshit.

 

FFS Skirge man, how is the £12m offer a stunt when we denied ever putting a bid in for him!?!?!

 

What is the difference between a "feeler" and a bid like?

 

Doing a ring round of clubs for prices of players we could pull in quickly I would say might be a 'feeler'.

 

An actual bid would be, well, an actual bid.

[TRon]

I'd have though that it'd finally clicked that nothing came from the club that we were ever even that strongly in for the bloke? But no, people are actually still complaining that the club has strung their fantasies of N'Zogbia along.

 

Yeah. It's not like we bid £10m for him in the Jan transfer window to give people the idea we were interested in him like. Beats me where people get these ideas from.

 

So what's your criticism there, that we bid for him? I thought you were annoyed because we didn't?

 

I'm annoyed at the bullshit. I could accept we don't want him because we don't want him or we believe we've bought better, but bidding £10-12m on the last day of the transfer window when you know it's too late to sign anyone is bullshit. Just as bidding for Bent and Richardson was bullshit the year before. Now when we could actually sign Zog we are running a mile. That is what is mildly annoying.

 

I don't really get this. Do you think we should succeed with every bid we make? And if not, why do you assume that every unsuccessful bid is bullshit?

 

I've answered those in the post you quoted.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I'd have though that it'd finally clicked that nothing came from the club that we were ever even that strongly in for the bloke? But no, people are actually still complaining that the club has strung their fantasies of N'Zogbia along.

 

Yeah. It's not like we bid £10m for him in the Jan transfer window to give people the idea we were interested in him like. Beats me where people get these ideas from.

 

So what's your criticism there, that we bid for him? I thought you were annoyed because we didn't?

 

I'm annoyed at the bullshit. I could accept we don't want him because we don't want him or we believe we've bought better, but bidding £10-12m on the last day of the transfer window when you know it's too late to sign anyone is bullshit. Just as bidding for Bent and Richardson was bullshit the year before. Now when we could actually sign Zog we are running a mile. That is what is mildly annoying.

 

I don't really get this. Do you think we should succeed with every bid we make? And if not, why do you assume that every unsuccessful bid is bullshit?

 

I've answered those in the post you quoted.

 

Have you? I can't find the answer in a form I can understand. Sorry.

[Skirge]

Disappointed by this latest development like. Time to move on and concentrate on bringing in a new striker and left back.

 

All in all, guess Ashley wasn't impressed with N'Zogbia's fee/wage demands. (Can't see a problem with the fee personally :s).

We never made an offer so why would we know his wage demands?

[Hanshithispantz]

Didn't Sky Sports News say that Whelan confirmed on the phone that we had made a bid?

 

I doubt Whelan would have done so if we hadn't.

[Wilson]

Disappointed by this latest development like. Time to move on and concentrate on bringing in a new striker and left back.

 

All in all, guess Ashley wasn't impressed with N'Zogbia's fee/wage demands. (Can't see a problem with the fee personally :s).

We never made an offer so why would we know his wage demands?

 

exactly. was there ever really any concrete interest? (apart from the apparent january bid) It seems over the past month or so its all been "a source close to zog said...." .... and now we're 'admitting defeat', as if we were in competition with villa

[TRon]

I'd have though that it'd finally clicked that nothing came from the club that we were ever even that strongly in for the bloke? But no, people are actually still complaining that the club has strung their fantasies of N'Zogbia along.

 

Yeah. It's not like we bid £10m for him in the Jan transfer window to give people the idea we were interested in him like. Beats me where people get these ideas from.

 

So what's your criticism there, that we bid for him? I thought you were annoyed because we didn't?

 

I'm annoyed at the bullshit. I could accept we don't want him because we don't want him or we believe we've bought better, but bidding £10-12m on the last day of the transfer window when you know it's too late to sign anyone is bullshit. Just as bidding for Bent and Richardson was bullshit the year before. Now when we could actually sign Zog we are running a mile. That is what is mildly annoying.

 

I don't really get this. Do you think we should succeed with every bid we make? And if not, why do you assume that every unsuccessful bid is bullshit?

 

I've answered those in the post you quoted.

 

Have you? I can't find the answer in a form I can understand. Sorry.

 

The unsuccessful bid is bullshit because it was made when it was too late to get it done. And no I don't believe we should succeed with every bid but I think we could definitely have succeeded with this one if we really wanted it to happen.

[Colocho]

Didn't Sky Sports News say that Whelan confirmed on the phone that we had made a bid?

 

I doubt Whelan would have done so if we hadn't.

 

Coincided with Villa accepting bid for Downing. Convenient.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

It always seemed a fairly unlikely signing bearing in mind the number of midfielders we've already signed and HBA's return from injury.

 

Zog might have wanted to come here if we'd been prepared to stump up the right money, but I don't know much beyond that.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I'd have though that it'd finally clicked that nothing came from the club that we were ever even that strongly in for the bloke? But no, people are actually still complaining that the club has strung their fantasies of N'Zogbia along.

 

Yeah. It's not like we bid £10m for him in the Jan transfer window to give people the idea we were interested in him like. Beats me where people get these ideas from.

 

So what's your criticism there, that we bid for him? I thought you were annoyed because we didn't?

 

I'm annoyed at the bullshit. I could accept we don't want him because we don't want him or we believe we've bought better, but bidding £10-12m on the last day of the transfer window when you know it's too late to sign anyone is bullshit. Just as bidding for Bent and Richardson was bullshit the year before. Now when we could actually sign Zog we are running a mile. That is what is mildly annoying.

 

I don't really get this. Do you think we should succeed with every bid we make? And if not, why do you assume that every unsuccessful bid is bullshit?

 

I've answered those in the post you quoted.

 

Have you? I can't find the answer in a form I can understand. Sorry.

 

The unsuccessful bid is bullshit because it was made when it was too late to get it done. And no I don't believe we should succeed with every bid but I think we could definitely have succeeded with this one if we really wanted it to happen.

 

Righto, but that's not an answer to the question I asked.

 

I agree we could have signed N'Zogbia in as much as it's theoretically possible we could have met Wigan's valuation and his wage demands, but that doesn't mean we were going to or are wrong not to.

[Hanshithispantz]

Didn't Sky Sports News say that Whelan confirmed on the phone that we had made a bid?

 

I doubt Whelan would have done so if we hadn't.

 

Coincided with Villa accepting bid for Downing. Convenient.

I'm talking about last January, when we had a final hour bid rejected. I don't see how people can come to the conclusion that no bid was made, when all the evidence suggests there was.

[Colocho]

It always seemed a fairly unlikely signing bearing in mind the number of midfielders we've already signed and HBA's return from injury.

 

Zog might have wanted to come here if we'd been prepared to stump up the right money, but I don't know much beyond that.

 

Anyone with an ounce of common sense would have realised that N'Zogbia wasn't coming here this summer, a few weeks ago, tbh.

[Zero]

We end our interest due to the signing of Marveaux or due to high fee demanded by Wigan?

 

[Colocho]

We end our interest due to the signing of Marveaux or due to high fee demanded by Wigan?

 

 

I was under the assumption it was Zoggy's £65k a week demands...

[NG32]

I fucking hate pardew, the greasy silver fox.

 

 

[BottledDog]

Didn't Sky Sports News say that Whelan confirmed on the phone that we had made a bid?

 

I doubt Whelan would have done so if we hadn't.

 

He did. Whelan I'm sure was delighted to puff up his chest and say he had turned us down, but then it would also suit us to say, look we offered £12m, we tried our best. But we didn't say that, we denied it iirc.

Pardew did say (thinking back it could have been on the radio) we tried to get players in at the last moment, but part of his answer was that there never was anything beyond an enquiry as to availibility in the case of N'Zogbia.

[TRon]

I'd have though that it'd finally clicked that nothing came from the club that we were ever even that strongly in for the bloke? But no, people are actually still complaining that the club has strung their fantasies of N'Zogbia along.

 

Yeah. It's not like we bid £10m for him in the Jan transfer window to give people the idea we were interested in him like. Beats me where people get these ideas from.

 

So what's your criticism there, that we bid for him? I thought you were annoyed because we didn't?

 

I'm annoyed at the bullshit. I could accept we don't want him because we don't want him or we believe we've bought better, but bidding £10-12m on the last day of the transfer window when you know it's too late to sign anyone is bullshit. Just as bidding for Bent and Richardson was bullshit the year before. Now when we could actually sign Zog we are running a mile. That is what is mildly annoying.

 

I don't really get this. Do you think we should succeed with every bid we make? And if not, why do you assume that every unsuccessful bid is bullshit?

 

I've answered those in the post you quoted.

 

Have you? I can't find the answer in a form I can understand. Sorry.

 

The unsuccessful bid is bullshit because it was made when it was too late to get it done. And no I don't believe we should succeed with every bid but I think we could definitely have succeeded with this one if we really wanted it to happen.

 

Righto, but that's not an answer to the question I asked.

 

I agree we could have signed N'Zogbia in as much as it's theoretically possible we could have met Wigan's valuation and his wage demands, but that doesn't mean we were going to or are wrong not to.

 

Well my point is the outrageous  bid last January which actually prompted this thread suggests that we were either very interested in signing Zog or wanted to make it look like we were. If that has changed this summer I'm surprised the club allowed all the speculation that we still wanted him to drag on until Villa moved decisively.

[oldtype]

I don't think it necessarily makes sense that the success of this entire window, the validity of the current regime, nay, THE WORTH OF THE CLUB ITSELF should be decided based on whether or not we sign Charles N'Zogbia.