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Football's greatest - where does Lionel Messi rank?


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He impacts the game in so many different ways, while Ronaldo if he's not scoring isn't really impacting the game at least nowadays anyway.

 

Not to take anything away from him though, as he's one of the most lethal goalscorers I have ever seen and he deserves all the respect in the world for becoming the player he has.

 

^^^^ reduced Ronaldo to being described as a lethal goalscorer.

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Ah right, yesterday. Wey he's clearly wrong then and that is a ridiculous description of him :lol:

 

I dunno if Ronaldo can be put in the 'Greatest of all time' category though, not when people still um and arr about whether Messi is. Certainly the third best player I've seen in my lifetime and the second most consistently brilliant though.

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Ah right, yesterday. Wey he's clearly wrong then and that is a ridiculous description of him :lol:

 

I dunno if Ronaldo can be put in the 'Greatest of all time' category though, not when people still um and arr about whether Messi is. Certainly the third best player I've seen in my lifetime and the second most consistently brilliant though.

 

I assume one of the other two is Messi; who's the third? Just curious, like.

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At his best, still better than CRonaldo for me in terms of the level he was at, CRonaldo obviously has consistency over him though.

 

Thinking about it actually, 3 of my top 5 players that I've seen would be Barca players, the other 2 of the 5 being Xavi and Zidane.

 

But aye it's like.

 

 

Messi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ronaldo>>>>>>>>>>>>CRonaldo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xavi>>>Zidane

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Real Ronaldo had already knee problems before joining Barca. Bar injuries he would've been there in the discussion with Messi. But he is nt and he was above CRonaldo in almost evert aspect of the game.

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Still remember in 2006 when Ian Wright described watching it as like watching Muhammad Ali when he was older, Ronaldo was just sort of waltzing about, not that arsed, but it was bullshit because whenever he got the ball he looked mint. Still remember him lazily receiving the ball from outside the area, turning around and just lashing it in like it was nowt. :lol: Fucking loved Ronaldo.

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Still remember in 2006 when Ian Wright described watching it as like watching Muhammad Ali when he was older, Ronaldo was just sort of waltzing about, not that arsed, but it was bullshit because whenever he got the ball he looked mint. Still remember him lazily receiving the ball from outside the area, turning around and just lashing it in like it was nowt. :lol: f***ing loved Ronaldo.

 

Was at the Ghana game when Brazil undeservedly beat them 3-0 in the World Cup. He scored a magnificient goal and all and was still class with the ball and all. But man was he fat and shouldn't have played :lol: At couple of times he was at the sideline talking to the manager and trying to catch his breath when Ghana had corners. So out of form :lol: Still remember him at something like 110kg in the Brazilian league having a faster acceleration than everyone. First 5 meters was where he killed everyone. So explosive.

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Ah right, yesterday. Wey he's clearly wrong then and that is a ridiculous description of him :lol:

 

I dunno if Ronaldo can be put in the 'Greatest of all time' category though, not when people still um and arr about whether Messi is. Certainly the third best player I've seen in my lifetime and the second most consistently brilliant though.

 

For me, it's undeniable they both belong in that category. In my lifetime it's Ronaldo, Zidane, Messi & C. Ronaldo by a long margin. The latter two far more consistent. Former 2, had many brilliant clutch moments.

 

Then I guess it's Maradona, Cruyff & Pele from older generations.

 

I don't think we'll see this level of performance from 1 player - let alone 2 for a long-time.

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302 in 293 games since moving to Madrid and over 100 assists. To say somebody is on a different planet to that is batshit crazy.

 

5 straight season of 50+ goals now. Has that ever been done in Europe before? Got 20 assists this season anarl.

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All I know is that I'm going to be very disappointed 15-20 years from now for not watching more of Messi and C. Ronaldo. Just an insane privilege witnessing these men in their prime.

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It's just mental. People are actually criminally underrating Ronaldo now. He have more assists this season than Messi aye? 50 goals in 47 games too. Messi with 47 in 48. Yet Messi is far better? :lol: I'm confused.

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All I know is that I'm going to be very disappointed 15-20 years from now for not watching more of Messi and C. Ronaldo. Just an insane privilege witnessing these men in their prime.

 

Footage will be available.

 

I still regret not going to see Pep's Barcelona live... never got round to it.

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Stats aren't the be all and end all of it though. Football's an art form and it's very subjective.

 

If you decided to buy a house or a car based on stats you'd end up living in Dumbarton and driving a fucking Dacia.

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It's just mental. People are actually criminally underrating Ronaldo now. He have more assists this season than Messi aye? 50 goals in 47 games too. Messi with 47 in 48. Yet Messi is far better? :lol: I'm confused.

 

Yeah, he is. :lol:

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It's just mental. People are actually criminally underrating Ronaldo now. He have more assists this season than Messi aye? 50 goals in 47 games too. Messi with 47 in 48. Yet Messi is far better? :lol: I'm confused.

No he has less assists than Messi but it's close enough. Anyway, goals and assists aren't the only things that matter in football. Messi is so good at dropping back into midfield and picking out a pass

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That through ball that Messi played to Neymar (which he then missed) shouldn't have really been possible, you couldn't even really see that ball as being on while watching it on telly.

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