Optimistic Nut Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Solano looked very good fairly often, but rarely great. Ginola gets the nod on the right, for me anyway. Did he actually ever play on the right for us though? To be honest I agree with you and sort of cheated by putting him behind Shearer in mine because I couldn't leave out Nobby or Robert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Solano looked very good fairly often, but rarely great. Ginola gets the nod on the right, for me anyway. Solano was always good. Rarely brilliant, but always good. Great crosser of the ball and good set pieces. Ginola on the left, Robert was way too inconsistent. Either amazing or a waste of a place in the team. But usually the former. Solano had more ineffective games - just for different, less obvious reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertCommunicator Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Solano looked very good fairly often, but rarely great. Ginola gets the nod on the right, for me anyway. Solano was always good. Rarely brilliant, but always good. Great crosser of the ball and good set pieces. Ginola on the left, Robert was way too inconsistent. Either amazing or a waste of a place in the team. But usually the former. Solano had more ineffective games - just for different, less obvious reasons. Bit of the old rose tinted spectacles there, mate! I'd say it was 70/30 - shit/great for Robert. Why do you think he did absolutely nothing after he left us? His freekicks were amazing when they went in, but again, he would pound 90% of them into row Z. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Solano looked very good fairly often, but rarely great. Ginola gets the nod on the right, for me anyway. Solano was always good. Rarely brilliant, but always good. Great crosser of the ball and good set pieces. Ginola on the left, Robert was way too inconsistent. Either amazing or a waste of a place in the team. But usually the former. Solano had more ineffective games - just for different, less obvious reasons. i know what you are getting at. often away from home what he done,he done well but too often there wasn't much of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Solano looked very good fairly often, but rarely great. Ginola gets the nod on the right, for me anyway. Solano was always good. Rarely brilliant, but always good. Great crosser of the ball and good set pieces. Ginola on the left, Robert was way too inconsistent. Either amazing or a waste of a place in the team. But usually the former. Solano had more ineffective games - just for different, less obvious reasons. Bit of the old rose tinted spectacles there, mate! I'd say it was 70/30 - s***/great for Robert. Why do you think he did absolutely nothing after he left us? His freekicks were amazing when they went in, but again, he would pound 90% of them into row Z. Not many wingers have averaged 8 goals a season and fuck knows how many assists for us tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 It's a travesty how anyone can't put Beardsley in their team. Those who know did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertCommunicator Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Solano looked very good fairly often, but rarely great. Ginola gets the nod on the right, for me anyway. Solano was always good. Rarely brilliant, but always good. Great crosser of the ball and good set pieces. Ginola on the left, Robert was way too inconsistent. Either amazing or a waste of a place in the team. But usually the former. Solano had more ineffective games - just for different, less obvious reasons. i know what you are getting at. often away from home what he done,he done well but too often there wasn't much of it. I think Solano needed others to give him the ball. He wasn't a fighter who would do a 20ft slide tackle in the mud in Hull when losing 2-0, but I think when surrounded by our best players, he would flourish, especially with Shearer and Ferdinand on the end of his deliveries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Solano looked very good fairly often, but rarely great. Ginola gets the nod on the right, for me anyway. Solano was always good. Rarely brilliant, but always good. Great crosser of the ball and good set pieces. Ginola on the left, Robert was way too inconsistent. Either amazing or a waste of a place in the team. But usually the former. Solano had more ineffective games - just for different, less obvious reasons. Bit of the old rose tinted spectacles there, mate! I'd say it was 70/30 - s***/great for Robert. Why do you think he did absolutely nothing after he left us? His freekicks were amazing when they went in, but again, he would pound 90% of them into row Z. He got old. It happens. Show me another player current or otherwise that could repeat his goals/assists from 03-04. Pedro springs to mind, Bellamy perhaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Solano looked very good fairly often, but rarely great. Ginola gets the nod on the right, for me anyway. Solano was always good. Rarely brilliant, but always good. Great crosser of the ball and good set pieces. Ginola on the left, Robert was way too inconsistent. Either amazing or a waste of a place in the team. But usually the former. Solano had more ineffective games - just for different, less obvious reasons. i know what you are getting at. often away from home what he done,he done well but too often there wasn't much of it. I think Solano needed others to give him the ball. He wasn't a fighter who would do a 20ft slide tackle in the mud in Hull when losing 2-0, but I think when surrounded by our best players, he would flourish, especially with Shearer and Ferdinand on the end of his deliveries. There's the difference between them then - Solano played great in a great team. Robert made a team great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Solano looked very good fairly often, but rarely great. Ginola gets the nod on the right, for me anyway. Solano was always good. Rarely brilliant, but always good. Great crosser of the ball and good set pieces. Ginola on the left, Robert was way too inconsistent. Either amazing or a waste of a place in the team. But usually the former. Solano had more ineffective games - just for different, less obvious reasons. i know what you are getting at. often away from home what he done,he done well but too often there wasn't much of it. I think Solano needed others to give him the ball. He wasn't a fighter who would do a 20ft slide tackle in the mud in Hull when losing 2-0, but I think when surrounded by our best players, he would flourish, especially with Shearer and Ferdinand on the end of his deliveries. There's the difference between them then - Solano played great in a great team. Robert made a team great. He speaketh the truth like. We went from Cordone/Gallacher & Glass/Bassedas in 11th, to Bellamy & Robert in 4th. The rest of the squad was pretty much as you were (although a fully fit Shearer was huge too). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Solano looked very good fairly often, but rarely great. Ginola gets the nod on the right, for me anyway. Solano was always good. Rarely brilliant, but always good. Great crosser of the ball and good set pieces. Ginola on the left, Robert was way too inconsistent. Either amazing or a waste of a place in the team. But usually the former. Solano had more ineffective games - just for different, less obvious reasons. i know what you are getting at. often away from home what he done,he done well but too often there wasn't much of it. I think Solano needed others to give him the ball. He wasn't a fighter who would do a 20ft slide tackle in the mud in Hull when losing 2-0, but I think when surrounded by our best players, he would flourish, especially with Shearer and Ferdinand on the end of his deliveries. There's the difference between them then - Solano played great in a great team. Robert made a team great. He speaketh the truth like. We went from Cordone/Gallacher & Glass/Bassedas in 11th, to Bellamy & Robert in 4th. The rest of the squad was pretty much as you were (although a fully fit Shearer was huge too). Kevin Gallacher man, what a fucking load of shit. The epitomy of a try hard to mask his inability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Given Beye Woodgate Howey Enrique Tiote Lee Gillespie Ginola Beardsley Cole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Given Barton-Woodgate-Albert-Enrique Solano-Speed-Lee-Robert Shearer-Beardsley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Srnicek Beye woodgate bassong enrique Solano tiote beardsley ginola Shearer ferdinand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winn Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I can't think of another player like Beardsley? If we where to sign a player like him now in his primse it would be like signing Messi!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Fucking Bassong?!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Given Hughes Woodgate Colo Bernard Beardsley Speed Lee Robert Shearer Ferdinand As much as i want to include Solano/Ginola i cant bring myself to drop Sir Les for either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I can remember a 1000 page thread on Robert that didn't reach any conclusion. My feeling is that defenders sussed him out after a time. If he had time and space to run at a defender and go down the outside, he was very effective. Close him down early or move him inside on to his right foot, and he couldn't do much. I didn't pick either, but given the choice, I'd go for Ginola. He was more versatile. Even there, I think Spurs saw the best of Ginola. He was so determined to prove Dalglish wrong, that he'd put 100 per cent into every game, chasing after the ball like he was demented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I can remember a 1000 page thread on Robert that didn't reach any conclusion. My feeling is that defenders sussed him out after a time. If he had time and space to run at a defender and go down the outside, he was very effective. Close him down early or move him inside on to his right foot, and he couldn't do much. I didn't pick either, but given the choice, I'd go for Ginola. He was more versatile. Even there, I think Spurs saw the best of Ginola. He was so determined to prove Dalglish wrong, that he'd put 100 per cent into every game, chasing after the ball like he was demented. Agree with Ginola there, aside from 6 months where he was incredible and unplayable for us he was better at Spurs tbh. I toyed with the idea of 4-3-3 with Pedro behind S&F but then couldnt think of a CM who did more than Robert/Solano/Ginola. It would have been Clark/Dyer/Tiote or something which wouldnt do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 In terms of the individual and their respective positions and how they would all compliment each other in a starting XI I'd go with: Given Beye Woodgate Albert Enrique Solano Batty Lee Robert Shearer Beardsley That side there would challenge for the title and possibly even the CL. My only doubt would be the pairing of Woodgate and Albert, both similar type of defenders. I'd worry about our mobility in the centre of the park too. Batty was mobile but not as athletic as say Tiote. Lee likewise. Beardsley in his prime and Shearer in his prime up front? That would be one awesome front line on a par with any today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 By the way, looking at all these XIs its clear to see we've had some outstanding players over the years, which has never been our problem. Our problem has always been assmembling a team of outstanding players and keeping them something which KK and Sir Bobby did and hence our best sides and seasons competing for the top honours. Not rocket science is it. We have the nucleaus of a good side with some outstanding players in Colo, Enrique, Tiote and Ben Arfa. We need 3 top players in midfield and up top to become a top side again in my opinion. Oh and a top manager... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pleno1 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 This team has experience, pace, enthusiasm, stamina, height, power, goals, set peice takers. Given Solano Peacock Woodgate Enrique Dyer Jenas Guthrie Barnes Rush Shearer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 In terms of the individual and their respective positions and how they would all compliment each other in a starting XI I'd go with: Given Beye Woodgate Albert Enrique Solano Batty Lee Robert Shearer Beardsley That side there would challenge for the title and possibly even the CL. My only doubt would be the pairing of Woodgate and Albert, both similar type of defenders. I'd worry about our mobility in the centre of the park too. Batty was mobile but not as athletic as say Tiote. Lee likewise. Beardsley in his prime and Shearer in his prime up front? That would be one awesome front line on a par with any today. I would go with this, although Tiote might prove to be better than Batty given a couple of seasons. I might prefer Ginola over Robert, not sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToonUltra Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Given Hughes Albert Pearce Enrique Milner Batty Lee N'zogbia Shearer Asprilla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 N'Zogbia ahead of Robert and Ginola? Controversial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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