ponsaelius Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Do people actually just ignore all of the work he does in terms of ground covered, tackles made, interceptions, pressing etc? After some of the genuinely fraudulent midfielders we've had over the last 5-6 years as well For whatever reason there are a lot of games where he isn't as influential as he should be. Can agree with that. But he is not a passenger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I feel Cabaye became vastly overrated once RTG said Gardener was better. Cabaye has quality, but does not contribute enough in a 4-4-2, we haven't controlled games in midfield well enough this season. Cabaye may look better along side Tiote, but pretty much anyone would. I agree with this. I think Tioté help Cabaye to be good. That´s why I rank him more important than Cabaye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Genuinely bored shitless of reading some of the thinly veiled wind ups/contrary attention seaking/ridiculous drivel posts on the football section recently. Dull as dishwater. Quite. He's a class act. Think folk are getting a bit spoiled A lot of people just want to see such a talent being used better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Genuinely bored shitless of reading some of the thinly veiled wind ups/contrary attention seaking/ridiculous drivel posts on the football section recently. Dull as dishwater. Quite. He's a class act. Think folk are getting a bit spoiled A lot of people just want to see such a talent being used better. Yep. The contrast in performance from him vs Stoke last season, and all the games in a 4-4-2. Ridiculous. Yes he makes a lot of challenges which is good for the team, but it would be nice to see him on the ball and dictating play especially at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I feel Cabaye became vastly overrated once RTG said Gardener was better. Cabaye has quality, but does not contribute enough in a 4-4-2, we haven't controlled games in midfield well enough this season. Cabaye may look better along side Tiote, but pretty much anyone would. I agree with this. I think Tioté help Cabaye to be good. That´s why I rank him more important than Cabaye. I must have missed Tiote playing for France in the Euro's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Play the right type of football and we'll see him back to his best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Genuinely bored shitless of reading some of the thinly veiled wind ups/contrary attention seaking/ridiculous drivel posts on the football section recently. Dull as dishwater. Quite. He's a class act. Think folk are getting a bit spoiled A lot of people just want to see such a talent being used better. Yep. The contrast in performance from him vs Stoke last season, and all the games in a 4-4-2. Ridiculous. Yes he makes a lot of challenges which is good for the team, but it would be nice to see him on the ball and dictating play especially at home. Villa away was his best performance in a Newcastle shirt imo...4-4-2. Wasn't shoddy against Man Utd up here either. Gosling showed last night as well that just because you play as part of a two you can't pose a threat in the oppositions box, Nolan did it for us too. There's no real reason why he can't play in a two, do his thing in midfield and still pop up in the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Stoke at home was one of the best performances I've seen from a midfielder. 2 Goals and an even better assist. He could have had a hat trick that day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Btw, can't find anything on Cabaye injured or is this ITK? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Stoke at home was one of the best performances I've seen from a midfielder. 2 Goals and an even better assist. He could have had a hat trick that day. Aye but he didn't cos he's shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Stoke at home was one of the best performances I've seen from a midfielder. 2 Goals and an even better assist. He could have had a hat trick that day. Aye but he didn't cos he's s***. Yep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I feel Cabaye became vastly overrated once RTG said Gardener was better. Cabaye has quality, but does not contribute enough in a 4-4-2, we haven't controlled games in midfield well enough this season. Cabaye may look better along side Tiote, but pretty much anyone would. I agree with this. I think Tioté help Cabaye to be good. That´s why I rank him more important than Cabaye. I don't remember seeing Tiote playing for France at the Euros or at Lille when Cabaye was their playmaker and one of the most important players that led them to league and cup or the season before that when Cabaye was well into double figures for goals and assists. Must have passed me by though, as clearly Tiote was there at all times to hold his hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I feel Cabaye became vastly overrated once RTG said Gardener was better. Cabaye has quality, but does not contribute enough in a 4-4-2, we haven't controlled games in midfield well enough this season. Cabaye may look better along side Tiote, but pretty much anyone would. I agree with this. I think Tioté help Cabaye to be good. That´s why I rank him more important than Cabaye. I don't remember seeing Tiote playing for France at the Euros or at Lille when Cabaye was their playmaker and one of the most important players that led them to league and cup or the season before that when Cabaye was well into double figures for goals and assists. Must have passed me by though, as clearly Tiote was there at all times to hold his hand. Probably because he's not french. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Btw, can't find anything on Cabaye injured or is this ITK? Not claiming to be ITK but it's from a mate (I know) who was down at the training ground today because he won a competition to be in the team photo (not the official one, but they're sending him it framed and that with him in). Anyway he was allowed to stay and watch them train, Cabaye went down and Carver called for the physio. If it's balls and he's fine I'll hold my hands up for trusting this gadabout like. Also said the guide told them Ranger was looking for a new club, so. tl;dr, MY SOURCES ARE REPUTABLE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Do people actually just ignore all of the work he does in terms of ground covered, tackles made, interceptions, pressing etc? After some of the genuinely fraudulent midfielders we've had over the last 5-6 years as well For whatever reason there are a lot of games where he isn't as influential as he should be. Can agree with that. But he is not a passenger. If you don't do tricks, crash into tackles, etc. it doesn't count on here man. Surely you've noticed that. Lost count of how many interceptions and mop up jobs he did on Sunday which almost don't count because they're boring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Btw, can't find anything on Cabaye injured or is this ITK? Not claiming to be ITK but it's from a mate (I know) who was down at the training ground today because he won a competition to be in the team photo (not the official one, but they're sending him it framed and that with him in). Anyway he was allowed to stay and watch them train, Cabaye went down and Carver called for the physio. If it's balls and he's fine I'll hold my hands up for trusting this gadabout like. Also said the guide told them Ranger was looking for a new club, so. tl;dr, MY SOURCES ARE REPUTABLE Which one is he? http://imageshack.us/a/img641/8181/teamphotoguest.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Between Pards and Colo That felt more stalkerish than it probably was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 The video is on the official website Best bit is after that when Pards shouts for a couple of bairns to come across for their photo - as they're walking over one of our lads shouts "go on Fergie, to the front" or something similar at Shane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Carver was bollocking Ranger to stand up straight the whole time too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Can't stand the backlash, he has had an awful season so far but he was outstanding last season, he completed most tackles last season and was a great creative outlet. Hard working with a brilliant passing range. Yes poor start but he'll find his level again and is a brilliant player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 He's won as many tackles as Ben Arfa has completed dribbles I think it's quite obvious that more often than not in 4-4-2 his role is different and is more of a defensive player intercepting passes, breaking up play. It's not what i want to see him doing but he should still be praised for his defensive work as much as his passing and offensive play. You would soon notice it when he's gone, the defensive work he does each and every game goes unnoticed IMO. As poor as offensively he's been so far this season, his defensive work still remains to be top notch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 hes sitting deeper because of Tiotes absence simple as Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Btw, can't find anything on Cabaye injured or is this ITK? Not claiming to be ITK but it's from a mate (I know) who was down at the training ground today because he won a competition to be in the team photo (not the official one, but they're sending him it framed and that with him in). Anyway he was allowed to stay and watch them train, Cabaye went down and Carver called for the physio. If it's balls and he's fine I'll hold my hands up for trusting this gadabout like. Also said the guide told them Ranger was looking for a new club, so. tl;dr, MY SOURCES ARE REPUTABLE Hopefully just a precaution. Probably happens all the time in training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Would be nice to see Cabaye in an advanced role in 4-5-1 with Tiote and Anita/Bigirama behind him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I think people just get frustrated because everyone prefers to see a player like him threading through passes and dictating games from an advanced position. His defensive work is solid, but unspectacular. The problem at the moment for me is that he's being used as a bit of a Jack of all trades and looking like a master of none, when we know that he is a master of one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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