Dave Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 If they've any sense whatsoever they'll let it stew as long as possible; the low bid has already had the desired effect. It's not like they desperately need him anyway. As I keep saying, we pride ourselves on being cunts like this to save a few quid so we ought to be familiar with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Why would they rush? The player clearly wants to go. I agree I think he does want away, can't blame him really things are so messed up but there is that nagging little niggle in the back of the mind "are the club fkn with us" They stand to make a cracking profit if they get the fee they want, what did we pay for him £4.5m ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Why would they rush? The player clearly wants to go. And why would we want them to rush? The longer they leave it, the more excuse we've got to spend f***-all. Well Ashley may think like that but I certainly hope he doesn't. We need 3 in with utmost urgency, we obviously won't get them but we desperately need them all the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'd be absolutely amazed if Arsenal get close to spending £20m on anyone let alone Cabaye Panic sets in at this time of year. Bluffs have been called and clubs that need to sign players, sometimes just to prove they are in the market, pay silly money. yes but this is Arsene Wenger we're on about Indeed - if it is Wenger who really calls the shots. The real interest may not be from Arsenal and NUFC are simply waiting to flush out the real money? Hate the situation we are in now, we are simply waiting for the bigger clubs to move so that we can (hopefully) move on the players we want. I know that goes against the grain but it is the way it is and where we are. we actually want a player? Other than that silly slip agree, simply the fact of being a club outside the champions league (or arsenal) and the growing trend of football around europe between those with the big cash and those without getting screwed over time and again. Its a sad state of affairs when the winners of the top 4 leagues in europe are between at most 3 clubs but more often 2 or even just 1 club. Fwiw I do actually think we want to bring players in. Would imagine you probably said the same last summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 The Mirror saying Arsenal are going to bid for Juan Mata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 The Mirror saying Arsenal are going to bid for Juan Mata so back to normal no hope transfers then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'd be absolutely amazed if Arsenal get close to spending £20m on anyone let alone Cabaye Panic sets in at this time of year. Bluffs have been called and clubs that need to sign players, sometimes just to prove they are in the market, pay silly money. yes but this is Arsene Wenger we're on about Indeed - if it is Wenger who really calls the shots. The real interest may not be from Arsenal and NUFC are simply waiting to flush out the real money? Hate the situation we are in now, we are simply waiting for the bigger clubs to move so that we can (hopefully) move on the players we want. I know that goes against the grain but it is the way it is and where we are. we actually want a player? Other than that silly slip agree, simply the fact of being a club outside the champions league (or arsenal) and the growing trend of football around europe between those with the big cash and those without getting screwed over time and again. Its a sad state of affairs when the winners of the top 4 leagues in europe are between at most 3 clubs but more often 2 or even just 1 club. Fwiw I do actually think we want to bring players in. Would imagine you probably said the same last summer. Not sure about that but I suppose the truth is on this forum somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-target-yohan-cabaye-strike-2218280 A Newcastle source said: “Yohan is Mike Ashley’s favourite player but the boss will not tolerate the current situation. He believes that if someone signs a contract then they must honour it. “If a move does not materialise and Cabaye continues to sulk he will be banished to the reserves.” Pardew was tight-lipped yesterday, saying only: “If he stays, great. If he does not, we need to get someone who is just as good.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Well yeah, not disputing that. They were all brilliant players (bar perhaps Parker, but that might be because he was not used correctly). He was a class above Cabaye, no doubt about it. Parker? Very good player for us, but extremely limited footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'd be absolutely amazed if Arsenal get close to spending £20m on anyone let alone Cabaye Panic sets in at this time of year. Bluffs have been called and clubs that need to sign players, sometimes just to prove they are in the market, pay silly money. yes but this is Arsene Wenger we're on about Indeed - if it is Wenger who really calls the shots. The real interest may not be from Arsenal and NUFC are simply waiting to flush out the real money? Hate the situation we are in now, we are simply waiting for the bigger clubs to move so that we can (hopefully) move on the players we want. I know that goes against the grain but it is the way it is and where we are. we actually want a player? Other than that silly slip agree, simply the fact of being a club outside the champions league (or arsenal) and the growing trend of football around europe between those with the big cash and those without getting screwed over time and again. Its a sad state of affairs when the winners of the top 4 leagues in europe are between at most 3 clubs but more often 2 or even just 1 club. Fwiw I do actually think we want to bring players in. Well Pardew has said that we don't need to sell Cabaye to do that, so unless we get the right money we should refuse to sell, and if he doesn't like it tough. He shouldn't have signed a 5 year contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'd be absolutely amazed if Arsenal get close to spending £20m on anyone let alone Cabaye Panic sets in at this time of year. Bluffs have been called and clubs that need to sign players, sometimes just to prove they are in the market, pay silly money. yes but this is Arsene Wenger we're on about Indeed - if it is Wenger who really calls the shots. The real interest may not be from Arsenal and NUFC are simply waiting to flush out the real money? Hate the situation we are in now, we are simply waiting for the bigger clubs to move so that we can (hopefully) move on the players we want. I know that goes against the grain but it is the way it is and where we are. we actually want a player? Other than that silly slip agree, simply the fact of being a club outside the champions league (or arsenal) and the growing trend of football around europe between those with the big cash and those without getting screwed over time and again. Its a sad state of affairs when the winners of the top 4 leagues in europe are between at most 3 clubs but more often 2 or even just 1 club. Fwiw I do actually think we want to bring players in. Would imagine you probably said the same last summer. Not sure about that but I suppose the truth is on this forum somewhere. Looks like you totally avoided the forum last summer, apart from one post. Guess you must've been busy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 lol imagine going all out trying to leave a club then finding out you're the owner's favorite player and they're so annoyed they're gonna wreck your career in revenge If Cabaye has spat his dummy out and no-one comes in for him at an appropiate price then he may be screwed. He'll want to come back and play for his france career mind so no-reason he wouldn't turn in a performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'd be absolutely amazed if Arsenal get close to spending £20m on anyone let alone Cabaye Panic sets in at this time of year. Bluffs have been called and clubs that need to sign players, sometimes just to prove they are in the market, pay silly money. yes but this is Arsene Wenger we're on about Indeed - if it is Wenger who really calls the shots. The real interest may not be from Arsenal and NUFC are simply waiting to flush out the real money? Hate the situation we are in now, we are simply waiting for the bigger clubs to move so that we can (hopefully) move on the players we want. I know that goes against the grain but it is the way it is and where we are. we actually want a player? Other than that silly slip agree, simply the fact of being a club outside the champions league (or arsenal) and the growing trend of football around europe between those with the big cash and those without getting screwed over time and again. Its a sad state of affairs when the winners of the top 4 leagues in europe are between at most 3 clubs but more often 2 or even just 1 club. Fwiw I do actually think we want to bring players in. Would imagine you probably said the same last summer. Not sure about that but I suppose the truth is on this forum somewhere. Looks like you totally avoided the forum last summer, apart from one post. Guess you must've been busy. I seem to remember not being ars*d to post much as I was pretty sure we were only going to sign one first team player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Ryder's version corroborate what the french reporter in Newcastle said today during the game : Cabaye engaged a "bras de fer" with the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'd be absolutely amazed if Arsenal get close to spending £20m on anyone let alone Cabaye Panic sets in at this time of year. Bluffs have been called and clubs that need to sign players, sometimes just to prove they are in the market, pay silly money. yes but this is Arsene Wenger we're on about Indeed - if it is Wenger who really calls the shots. The real interest may not be from Arsenal and NUFC are simply waiting to flush out the real money? Hate the situation we are in now, we are simply waiting for the bigger clubs to move so that we can (hopefully) move on the players we want. I know that goes against the grain but it is the way it is and where we are. we actually want a player? Other than that silly slip agree, simply the fact of being a club outside the champions league (or arsenal) and the growing trend of football around europe between those with the big cash and those without getting screwed over time and again. Its a sad state of affairs when the winners of the top 4 leagues in europe are between at most 3 clubs but more often 2 or even just 1 club. Fwiw I do actually think we want to bring players in. Would imagine you probably said the same last summer. Not sure about that but I suppose the truth is on this forum somewhere. Looks like you totally avoided the forum last summer, apart from one post. Guess you must've been busy. I seem to remember not being ars*d to post much as I was pretty sure we were only going to sign one first team player. Right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/arsenal/transfer-talk/news/report-arsenal-to-make-new-gbp20m-cabaye-bid_100600.html Sports mole is never wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'd question anything that comes from the club at the moment. But I suppose there's nothing stopping Cabaye from denying this. IF he has refused to play, we should just stop paying him. At some point he'll either be sold for the kind of money we're after, or he'll give up himself when the cash dries up. At the end of the day its a world cup year and he's on a reasonably long contract. We dont have to bow down to his bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Really quite sad all this. Going from when we signed him, the optimism from both ourselves and the player was amazing. Now look at the state of us. Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I've been called elsewhere for giving my thoughts on Cabaye - Ashley ordering him not to be played, etc and have been derided for it. If what Sky are saying has an ounce of truth in it, is anyone genuinely surprised? This club lies to supporters when it suits - it's admitted doing it before and it will do again. Don't fall for the lies, fellas - because Pardew is becoming as bad as Kinnear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I've been called elsewhere for giving my thoughts on Cabaye - Ashley ordering him not to be played, etc and have been derided for it. If what Sky are saying has an ounce of truth in it, is anyone genuinely surprised? This club lies to supporters when it suits - it's admitted doing it before and it will do again. Don't fall for the lies, fellas - because Pardew is becoming as bad as Kinnear. so does every football club in the world don't delude yourself that its any other way. my opinion however I base off the who benefits line of logic, who benefits from Cabaye not playing? Ashley? not really if anything it hurts the clubs bargaining position on Cabaye as Arsenal can play the he doesn't want to be at your club line and are you really going to put up with a want away player lines to lower the price. Cabaye benefits if it forces us to sell him if he has said fuck that I'm not playing because I want to go to Arsenal in the hopes it will force us to sell him which nets him champions league football and a nice increase in his wage packet-he doesn't give half a shit about how much we get as a club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/arsenal/transfer-talk/news/report-arsenal-to-make-new-gbp20m-cabaye-bid_100600.html Sports mole is never wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I've been called elsewhere for giving my thoughts on Cabaye - Ashley ordering him not to be played, etc and have been derided for it. If what Sky are saying has an ounce of truth in it, is anyone genuinely surprised? This club lies to supporters when it suits - it's admitted doing it before and it will do again. Don't fall for the lies, fellas - because Pardew is becoming as bad as Kinnear. so does every football club in the world don't delude yourself that its any other way. my opinion however I base off the who benefits line of logic, who benefits from Cabaye not playing? Ashley? not really if anything it hurts the clubs bargaining position on Cabaye as Arsenal can play the he doesn't want to be at your club line and are you really going to put up with a want away player lines to lower the price. Cabaye benefits if it forces us to sell him if he has said fuck that I'm not playing because I want to go to Arsenal in the hopes it will force us to sell him which nets him champions league football and a nice increase in his wage packet-he doesn't give half a shit about how much we get as a club. IF Ashley wants him sold and not to play, then that's what will happen (and is happening) Even if we get £15million for Cabaye, Ashley has made £10million profit. That's his reasoning right there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I've been called elsewhere for giving my thoughts on Cabaye - Ashley ordering him not to be played, etc and have been derided for it. If what Sky are saying has an ounce of truth in it, is anyone genuinely surprised? This club lies to supporters when it suits - it's admitted doing it before and it will do again. Don't fall for the lies, fellas - because Pardew is becoming as bad as Kinnear. so does every football club in the world don't delude yourself that its any other way. my opinion however I base off the who benefits line of logic, who benefits from Cabaye not playing? Ashley? not really if anything it hurts the clubs bargaining position on Cabaye as Arsenal can play the he doesn't want to be at your club line and are you really going to put up with a want away player lines to lower the price. Cabaye benefits if it forces us to sell him if he has said fuck that I'm not playing because I want to go to Arsenal in the hopes it will force us to sell him which nets him champions league football and a nice increase in his wage packet-he doesn't give half a shit about how much we get as a club. IF Ashley wants him sold and not to play, then that's what will happen (and is happening) Even if we get £15million for Cabaye, Ashley has made £10million profit. That's his reasoning right there. while he wants £20m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Really quite sad all this. Going from when we signed him, the optimism from both ourselves and the player was amazing. Now look at the state of us. Christ. Yeah, doesn't seem that long ago. Remember being genuinely excited that night as were many others. Seemed a perfect fit at the time. Seems it only took a year for his disillusion to set in though. Realise we may only be seen as stepping stone, but you wonder what on earth our better players think of this current regime. Must be dispiriting for them to say the least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Really quite sad all this. Going from when we signed him, the optimism from both ourselves and the player was amazing. Now look at the state of us. Christ. Yeah, doesn't seem that long ago. Remember being genuinely excited that night as were many others. Seemed a perfect fit at the time. Seems it only took a year for his disillusion to set in though. Realise we may only be seen as stepping stone, but you wonder what on earth our better players think of this current regime. Must be dispiriting for them to say the least. Why ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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