Yohan Cabaye (now sporting coordinator at Paris Saint-Germain)

[SMTW]

Really quite sad all this. Going from when we signed him, the optimism from both ourselves and the player was amazing. Now look at the state of us. Christ.

 

Yeah, doesn't seem that long ago. Remember being genuinely excited that night as were many others. Seemed a perfect fit at the time.

Seems it only took a year for his disillusion to set in though.

Realise we may only be seen as stepping stone, but you wonder what on earth our better players think of this current regime.

Must be dispiriting for them to say the least.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why not?

[Guest bimpy474]

Really quite sad all this. Going from when we signed him, the optimism from both ourselves and the player was amazing. Now look at the state of us. Christ.

 

Yeah, doesn't seem that long ago. Remember being genuinely excited that night as were many others. Seemed a perfect fit at the time.

Seems it only took a year for his disillusion to set in though.

Realise we may only be seen as stepping stone, but you wonder what on earth our better players think of this current regime.

Must be dispiriting for them to say the least.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why not?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fair enough.

[Teasy]

I've been called elsewhere for giving my thoughts on Cabaye - Ashley ordering him not to be played, etc and have been derided for it. If what Sky are saying has an ounce of truth in it, is anyone genuinely surprised? This club lies to supporters when it suits - it's admitted doing it before and it will do again.

 

Don't fall for the lies, fellas - because Pardew is becoming as bad as Kinnear.

so does every football club in the world don't delude yourself that its any other way.

 

my opinion however I base off the who benefits line of logic, who benefits from Cabaye not playing? Ashley? not really if anything it hurts the clubs bargaining position on Cabaye as Arsenal can play the he doesn't want to be at your club line and are you really going to put up with a want away player lines to lower the price.

 

Cabaye benefits if it forces us to sell him if he has said fuck that I'm not playing because I want to go to Arsenal in the hopes it will force us to sell him which nets him champions league football and a nice increase in his wage packet-he doesn't give half a shit about how much we get as a club.

 

IF Ashley wants him sold and not to play, then that's what will happen (and is happening) Even if we get £15million for Cabaye, Ashley has made £10million profit. That's his reasoning right there.

 

I'm not claiming I know whats happening or laying all the blame at Cabayes door at the moment.  But jdckelly makes some good points and your response doesnt deal with any of them.

 

It makes sense that Cabaye is a less valuable asset to the club if he's involved in a public fued with it.  So why create a false fued and devalue your own player?  Because we'll make a profit anyway isnt a reasonabe argument.  We'll want as much as possible for him and to get as much as possible requires a strong bargaining position.

 

There's also the question of why would Cabaye not speak out if he didnt refuse to play.  I suppose we'll see if he does.

[Kasper]

Surprised he stuck with this pile of shit this long. Deserves better things.

[Teasy]

Yeah amazing he agreed to play 90 minutes of Football for his weekly £45,000 wage for a long as he did.  What a tortured sole.. 

 

Seriously get a fucking grip.  I can understand why he wouldnt want to play under Pardew.  But he signed a very lucrative contract of which there are 3 yeara remaining, asking to leave is fine, refusing to play isnt.

[Kasper]

Yeah definitely the right thing to do, refusing to play 90 minutes of Football for his weekly £45,000 wage, totally justified the poor lad.

 

Seriously get a fucking grip

 

I'm not claiming I know whats happening or laying all the blame at Cabayes door at the moment.

 

 

 

[Conjo]

Amazed anyone could be devastated, tbh. He was a big upgrade on Nolan as a footballer but next to some of the CMs we've had over the past 15 years he's not fit to lick their underpants. He's one of the better players of an underwhelming squad with a reputation that outweighs his actual effectiveness.

 

Enlighten me which midfielders you're talking about.

 

Count me in. Preferably if you could go a bit outside of the box and count out Speed and Lee.

 

Is this a joke? Batty, Pedro, Speed, Hamann, Lee, Dyer and Parker were all more effective PL players.

 

Besides that fact it´s over 15 years since Pedro and Batty played for us, I would find it very hard to agree that Cabaye is not fit to lick Hamann, Dyer and Parkers underpants

 

 

Moving on then.

 

Over 15 years since Pedro and Batty? In your little world, perhaps. Pedro left in 97/98, Batty a year later.

 

Pedro left in august 97 which is exactly 16 years ago, no?

Batty left december 98, so still a few months until the 15 year mark, I'll give you that.

 

Time flies Ron! 

 

 

 

[Kasper]

Ambitious player in a club with zero ambition. What the fuck do you expect to happen?

[Ronaldo]

Amazed anyone could be devastated, tbh. He was a big upgrade on Nolan as a footballer but next to some of the CMs we've had over the past 15 years he's not fit to lick their underpants. He's one of the better players of an underwhelming squad with a reputation that outweighs his actual effectiveness.

 

Enlighten me which midfielders you're talking about.

 

Count me in. Preferably if you could go a bit outside of the box and count out Speed and Lee.

 

Is this a joke? Batty, Pedro, Speed, Hamann, Lee, Dyer and Parker were all more effective PL players.

 

Besides that fact it´s over 15 years since Pedro and Batty played for us, I would find it very hard to agree that Cabaye is not fit to lick Hamann, Dyer and Parkers underpants

 

 

Moving on then.

 

Over 15 years since Pedro and Batty? In your little world, perhaps. Pedro left in 97/98, Batty a year later.

 

Pedro left in august 97 which is exactly 16 years ago, no?

Batty left december 98, so still a few months until the 15 year mark, I'll give you that.

 

Time flies Ron! 

 

 

 

It does. And I miss them all, mate. 2013 NUFC is shit.

 

It's 20 years this coming Thursday since I went to my first PL game. If I'd been born 20 years later and this was my footballing introduction I'd probably have picked a different sport. Maybe Rugby - and turned out gay. Imagine that shit.

[Zero]

Ambitious player in a club with zero ambition. What the f*** do you expect to happen?

 

I expect he honoured his contract and give some respect to the fans to play 90 mins out there.

[Teasy]

Yeah definitely the right thing to do, refusing to play 90 minutes of Football for his weekly £45,000 wage, totally justified the poor lad.

 

Seriously get a fucking grip

 

I'm not claiming I know whats happening or laying all the blame at Cabayes door at the moment.

 

 

 

 

I dont know, but I have my opinion and your post seemed very much like a case of ''dont blame Cabaye no matter what because he's too good for us''.  Answer this then, if he is refusing to play will you still back him because ''he deserves better''?

[DJ_NUFC]

If he's refusing to play, he needs to be sent to train with the reserved and we should stop paying him. Such behavior is unheard of, or usually reserved for the Carlos Tevezes of the world.

 

If the club is lying about this though, then it wouldn't surprise me a bit and I would welcome him back into the side.

[Stottie]

Maybe the success in hawking Carroll around (according to Redknapp etc.) and still getting a big fee has got Ashiey thinking we can do the same here. It looks like its going to come down to a game of chicken on deadline day. If they hold out, Arsenal may yet get him for their original bid.

 

Cabaye's energy level was bad enough in the 0-6 against the Scousers last season, so I dread to think what we'd get out of him were he to stay after the way we've handled this situation. France seem to think there is an AM in there, but getting it out of him is clearly beyond Pardew. He doesn't seem disciplined or defensively strong enough to double up in some DM plus deep lying playmaker type role.

 

Even in the best case situation here, getting 20M for Cabaye on deadline day will not be a success because all we'll get to hear of is failed last-minute bids.

[Ally]

Amazed anyone could be devastated, tbh. He was a big upgrade on Nolan as a footballer but next to some of the CMs we've had over the past 15 years he's not fit to lick their underpants. He's one of the better players of an underwhelming squad with a reputation that outweighs his actual effectiveness.

 

Enlighten me which midfielders you're talking about.

 

Count me in. Preferably if you could go a bit outside of the box and count out Speed and Lee.

 

Is this a joke? Batty, Pedro, Speed, Hamann, Lee, Dyer and Parker were all more effective PL players.

 

Besides that fact it´s over 15 years since Pedro and Batty played for us, I would find it very hard to agree that Cabaye is not fit to lick Hamann, Dyer and Parkers underpants

 

 

Moving on then.

 

Over 15 years since Pedro and Batty? In your little world, perhaps. Pedro left in 97/98, Batty a year later.

 

Pedro left in august 97 which is exactly 16 years ago, no?

Batty left december 98, so still a few months until the 15 year mark, I'll give you that.

 

Time flies Ron! 

 

 

 

It does. And I miss them all, mate. 2013 NUFC is shit.

 

It's 20 years this coming Thursday since I went to my first PL game. If I'd been born 20 years later and this was my footballing introduction I'd probably have picked a different sport. Maybe Rugby - and turned out gay. Imagine that shit.

 

My Mrs is due in a couple of weeks. Do I subject this innocent child to NUFC?

[Espio]

Amazed anyone could be devastated, tbh. He was a big upgrade on Nolan as a footballer but next to some of the CMs we've had over the past 15 years he's not fit to lick their underpants. He's one of the better players of an underwhelming squad with a reputation that outweighs his actual effectiveness.

 

Enlighten me which midfielders you're talking about.

 

Count me in. Preferably if you could go a bit outside of the box and count out Speed and Lee.

 

Is this a joke? Batty, Pedro, Speed, Hamann, Lee, Dyer and Parker were all more effective PL players.

 

Besides that fact it´s over 15 years since Pedro and Batty played for us, I would find it very hard to agree that Cabaye is not fit to lick Hamann, Dyer and Parkers underpants

 

 

Moving on then.

 

Over 15 years since Pedro and Batty? In your little world, perhaps. Pedro left in 97/98, Batty a year later.

 

Pedro left in august 97 which is exactly 16 years ago, no?

Batty left december 98, so still a few months until the 15 year mark, I'll give you that.

 

Time flies Ron! 

 

 

 

It does. And I miss them all, mate. 2013 NUFC is shit.

 

It's 20 years this coming Thursday since I went to my first PL game. If I'd been born 20 years later and this was my footballing introduction I'd probably have picked a different sport. Maybe Rugby - and turned out gay. Imagine that shit.

 

My Mrs is due in a couple of weeks. Do I subject this innocent child to NUFC?

 

Why not? By the time he/she's old enough to understand, this current regime should have fucked off (Hopefully)

[LoveItIfWeBeatU]

Whatever happened to players handing in transfer requests? That used to be the done thing. The other week Suarez was threatening to hand in a transfer request when he'd already made it very clear that he wants to leave Liverpool. How players can get paid a loyalty bonus just because they didn't officially request a transfer in writing, while doing everything else in their power to leave is beyond me.

 

I can't blame Cabaye for wanting to leave. NUFC have shown no ambition. I can blame him for the way he has gone about it. If you want to leave put a transfer request in. I just hope we get a good price for him and the money is used to buy a couple of players who transform our side (like when we got Bellamy and Robert). A fool's hope.

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

 

If he really ''refused to play'' they could sue him for breach or contract.

[BlueStar]

If he's refused to play and we're letting him get away with it, it's a fucking disgrace.

 

If we're not playing one of our most creative players and potentially dropping points in the process out of fear of jepordising  selling him off, it's a fucking discrace.

 

If we're doing the latter, while telling the media it's the former, it's a double fucking disgrace.

[Dinho lad]

Well yeah, not disputing that. They were all brilliant players (bar perhaps Parker, but that might be because he was not used correctly).

 

He was a class above Cabaye, no doubt about it.

 

Parker? Very good player for us, but extremely limited footballer.

 

no, hamann.

[RodneyCisse]

Things like this totally limit the amount of money we will get for him.

[Flip]

Well yeah, not disputing that. They were all brilliant players (bar perhaps Parker, but that might be because he was not used correctly).

 

He was a class above Cabaye, no doubt about it.

 

Parker? Very good player for us, but extremely limited footballer.

 

no, hamann.

 

[brummie]

When you consider what footballers get from the game - a game which is entirely reliant on fans in one way or another - the fans don't actually ask for much from the players

 

In return the players get fame, adulation and millions of pounds a year.

 

The very least they could do would be to actually play and do their best for the money. They can retire as you g men still and not have to lift a finger work-wise for the rest of their lives.

 

If this story is true then it is very depressing for the game as a whole, not just newcastle.

[Dave]

If he's refused to play and we're letting him get away with it, it's a fucking disgrace.

 

If we're not playing one of our most creative players and potentially dropping points in the process out of fear of jepordising  selling him off, it's a fucking discrace.

 

If we're doing the latter, while telling the media it's the former, it's a double fucking disgrace.

 

Well summarised.

[Zero]

Things like this totally limit the amount of money we will get for him.

 

Exactly.  Thats why I don't buy the theory that we didnt play him in order to prevent him from taking up injuries.

It does no good to us.

 

[Zero]

If he's refused to play and we're letting him get away with it, it's a f***ing disgrace.

 

If we're not playing one of our most creative players and potentially dropping points in the process out of fear of jepordising  selling him off, it's a f***ing discrace.

 

If we're doing the latter, while telling the media it's the former, it's a double f***ing disgrace.

 

Well summarised.

 

Agree.