Toondave Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Thought he was quite good today with all things considered. So far this season no one has really covered themselves in glory, Bigirmana and Ferguson are looking promising mind. None of the first team players, with the exception of Ben Arfa perhaps, have looked as good as they did last season yet but they'll come good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 No team in the premiership play with a standard 4-4-2 anymore. It doesnt work, its more important to win the midfield battle. Man United rarely play a 4-4-2 in important games, Man City the same, Aresnal never play a 4-4-2, Everton play a 4-5-1. To copmete with the big guys you need to put the extra man in the midfield to allow our better technical players, Cabaye and Ben Arfa the freedom to change the game, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 He wasn´t bad, but he wasn´t good either because he´s just not showing. He´s supposed to be our main man in the middle. Therefore he got to do more than just run about a little bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Poor yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 You can't have it both ways, like. If he was world class a few yards on a pitch and Jonas Gutierrez for company wouldn't make as much difference to him. Not when the opposition is lining up like this it doesn't..... http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2012/10/7/1349633027948/graphic-001.jpg I don't care if you have the 2 best midfielders in the world you would struggle with all those numbers around you.... it's nothing to do with being WC or not it's due to being outnumbered by the opposition in midfield..... it's no coincidence that Cabaye has performed when we have matched the opposition up in midfield. We could have had Xavi and the best DM in the world instead of Cabaye and Tiote and we still would of struggled, we improved once we switched to 3 because we could compete with the numbers game. It's stupid to ignore him being outnumbered and say if he's this he'd be fine, it's quite frankly utter rubbish. One of the main reasons we must play 3 in midfield a practically every team does. More on this..... http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/oct/08/manchester-united-newcastle-united-midfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hydeous Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Could have worked either way though. Given that we had Ferguson and Santon on their stronger sides (only in terms of crossing), we could easily have broken at pace down the wings and crossed in a few for goals. The problem was that we started too slowly early on. We really have been good at defending set pieces in the last year or so. If that had worked out yesterday, maybe it'd have been Man Utd making the formation changes trying to keep up with our game instead of us putting 5 in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 You can't have it both ways, like. If he was world class a few yards on a pitch and Jonas Gutierrez for company wouldn't make as much difference to him. Not when the opposition is lining up like this it doesn't..... http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2012/10/7/1349633027948/graphic-001.jpg I don't care if you have the 2 best midfielders in the world you would struggle with all those numbers around you.... it's nothing to do with being WC or not it's due to being outnumbered by the opposition in midfield..... it's no coincidence that Cabaye has performed when we have matched the opposition up in midfield. We could have had Xavi and the best DM in the world instead of Cabaye and Tiote and we still would of struggled, we improved once we switched to 3 because we could compete with the numbers game. It's stupid to ignore him being outnumbered and say if he's this he'd be fine, it's quite frankly utter rubbish. One of the main reasons we must play 3 in midfield a practically every team does. More on this..... http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/oct/08/manchester-united-newcastle-united-midfield Yeah we really needed another man in the centre, even though we got a lot better when we went 4-5-1 we still didn't have much penetration, Tiote should have stuck to Rooney more, Jonas pressed centrally and Cabaye would have plenty more space, they out numbered us but none of those are fantastic defensive midfielders. The added width gave us more options and possession but not much going forward. Jonas more central and Ben Arfa being more advanced would have done more good imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8155545/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Oh ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 fucking hate internationals...joke how we're onto the 2nd break of the season absolute piss take Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Don't think it's anything to worry about, he's still training. Skysports have just decided to go with a scare story for Newcastle fans, no mention of the derby from anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Don't think it's anything to worry about, he's still training. Skysports have just decided to go with a scare story for Newcastle fans, no mention of the derby from anyone. Aye i thought that as well, having said that the amount of injuries caused by international breaks this season already is getting a bit ridiculous tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Japan? Stomach pains? I know that feeling, Brohan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Could have worked either way though. Given that we had Ferguson and Santon on their stronger sides (only in terms of crossing), we could easily have broken at pace down the wings and crossed in a few for goals. The problem was that we started too slowly early on. We really have been good at defending set pieces in the last year or so. If that had worked out yesterday, maybe it'd have been Man Utd making the formation changes trying to keep up with our game instead of us putting 5 in the middle. We launch the ball from Harper, they win it in the aerial duel with the strikers and they go from their. Possession was 80-20 in the first 20. They got the ball and just ran rings around us. Our wide players out of the game. You have to compete in the middle of the pitch by all means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Sorry can't be bothered to translate it but basically the Spanish especially Del Bosque are saying that Cabaye is the most talented midfielder the French have, he takes the free kicks, he directs the game, he's a little bit their Xavi. Karim Benzema, « l'un des meilleurs attaquants du monde et un joueur extraordinaire », selon Vicente Del Bosque, et Franck Ribéry sont les deux joueurs que craignent le plus les Espagnols, à la veille de recevoir les Bleus, à Madrid. Mais ils sont aussi noté l'importance de Yohan Cabaye dans le jeu français. « On connaît bien les Français, assure Cesc Fabregas. Il y a eu quelques changements depuis l'Euro, de nouveaux joueurs, mais il y a toujours les deux meilleurs, Benzema et Ribéry, et aussi Cabaye à la création. Il faudra faire un grand match pour les battre.» Vicente Del Bosque, qui a aussi souligné que le forfait d'Abou Diaby était une absence importante pour l'équipe de France, est allé plus loin, concernant le joueur de Newcastle?: « C'est sans doute le joueur le plus talentueux que la France ait au milieu, juge le sélectionneur espagnol. Il tire les coups de pied arrêtés, il dirige le jeu. C'est un peu leur Xavi. » Malgré sa victoire en quart de finale du dernier Euro (2-0), l'Espagne ne s'attend donc pas un match facile, face à son principal adversaire pour la première place du groupe. « Après ce match, il y aura encore quinze points en jeu, note Del Bosque. C'est vrai que cette double confrontation peut être capitale pour les deux équipes, presque comme un match de Coupe. Mais on fait des prévisions aujourd'hui et, après, on peut aussi perdre des points ici ou là. » - L. D., à Madrid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I think Cabaye is an excellent player and is being largely misused. However, his set pieces, which are free from excuses about formations, positions, etc., have been absolute garbage all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 And virtually all of last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And virtually all of last season. Tosh generalization. His corners and most of his indirect freekicks are mostly garbage. But his direct freekicks are usually good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 So you agree, then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8169306? I really dont like Deschamps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Cock head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Needs to stop running his mouth like, he's a cunt and everyone knows it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 What a total dick head. Why would he say that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 He's currently part of the French team watching the Spanish keep the ball and run rings around them. No goals yet though, Spain are looking for perfection first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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