Mole_Toonfan Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Wat.... He was one of our better players..... without him the midfield would have had no drive and impetus but he provided that. Watching Tiote and Anita was as horrific as anyone could have imagined but at least Marv was there to turn pointless possession into meaningful attacks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Wat.... He was one of our better players..... without him the midfield would have had no drive and impetus but he provided that. Watching Tiote and Anita was as horrific as anyone could have imagined but at least Marv was there to turn pointless possession into meaningful attacks. Really, man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Hopefully he'll be gone in January, as I've had my fill of grumpy Marv. He's had plenty chances to stake his claim and impress but he's just lost it. The fact he's been mainly a sicknote since being here has put the final nail in the coffin for me. We can hopefully get a much better option than him in January. He can be creative and spark off the odd attack but he just has zero consistency to make it here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Hopefully he'll be gone in January, as I've had my fill of grumpy Marv. He's had plenty chances to stake his claim and impress but he's just lost it. The fact he's been mainly a sicknote since being here has put the final nail in the coffin for me. We can hopefully get a much better option than him in January. He can be creative and spark off the odd attack but he just has zero consistency to make it here. He doesn't get the consistency of games, how can he be expected to play with consistency? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Wat.... He was one of our better players..... without him the midfield would have had no drive and impetus but he provided that. Watching Tiote and Anita was as horrific as anyone could have imagined but at least Marv was there to turn pointless possession into meaningful attacks. Really, man? From an offensive point of view I mean they provide nothing going forward..... good defensively though obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Wat.... He was one of our better players..... without him the midfield would have had no drive and impetus but he provided that. Watching Tiote and Anita was as horrific as anyone could have imagined but at least Marv was there to turn pointless possession into meaningful attacks. Really, man? From an offensive point of view I mean they provide nothing going forward..... good defensively though obviously. That counts as 'horrific', does it? Even in an attacking sense, Anita looked to play the ball forward to the more creative players. Second half, Tiote did the same. They both had decent games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I was hoping he'd play off of Gouffran last night with Cisse on the bench. Or at least off of Cisse, with Gouffran wide instead. Haven't seen enough of him in that spot. Oh well ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Wat.... He was one of our better players..... without him the midfield would have had no drive and impetus but he provided that. Watching Tiote and Anita was as horrific as anyone could have imagined but at least Marv was there to turn pointless possession into meaningful attacks. Really, man? From an offensive point of view I mean they provide nothing going forward..... good defensively though obviously. That counts as 'horrific', does it? Even in an attacking sense, Anita looked to play the ball forward to the more creative players. Second half, Tiote did the same. They both had decent games. That's why Marveaux was important.... when Anita and and Tiote would do 5 yard forward passes into the final third he would turn it into something. They don't really create anything its a solid base in front of the back 4 but past the half way line it doesn't provide enough IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'm not disputing that. You said wqatching Anita and Tiote was 'as horrific as anyone could have imagined'. It wasn't. Not at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Marveaux has never been given a real chance in the team because seemingly Pardew is shit scared of playing him in the same XI as Ben Arfa. He has played brilliant numerous times then just been dropped for no apparent reason, so if he's never given a run in the side he will never establish any kind of consistency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Thought he was one of our better players last night. Surprised at the reaction here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I personally thought Marveaux lacked drive when push came to shove. Whenever he picked it up he seemed to be full of intent but then the longer he spent on the ball the less belief he had in himself and lost all conviction. Prime example was when he ballooned that shot high and wide - his initial instinct got him to where he was before he shot, and then he seemed to think himself into panicking. He did it with a couple of passes that never made it through as well. I do like Marveaux, but it's his 3rd season now and he's still only looking like he "could be a good player". Starting to think there's something missing with him unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Wat.... Watching Tiote and Anita was as horrific as anyone could have imagined but at least Marv was there to turn pointless possession into meaningful attacks. What a load of fucking Shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Thought he was one of our better players last night. Surprised at the reaction here. My reaction was about his time here in general, not last night. I feel he needs to be moved on and replaced asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I honestly think Marveaux would be regarded as one of our most important players if he was given a real run in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I honestly think Marveaux would be regarded as one of our most important players if he was given a real run in the side. I think he does well considering he hasn't got the incentive of playing for a place in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I personally thought Marveaux lacked drive when push came to shove. Whenever he picked it up he seemed to be full of intent but then the longer he spent on the ball the less belief he had in himself and lost all conviction. Prime example was when he ballooned that shot high and wide - his initial instinct got him to where he was before he shot, and then he seemed to think himself into panicking. He did it with a couple of passes that never made it through as well. I do like Marveaux, but it's his 3rd season now and he's still only looking like he "could be a good player". Starting to think there's something missing with him unfortunately. Similar feelings. Obviously he would benefit from playing every week, but I don't think I would drop anyone from our current team to play him. He clearly has tons of technique and creative intentions, but he does seem to struggle with getting into the game enough at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I honestly think Marveaux would be regarded as one of our most important players if he was given a real run in the side. I think he does well considering he hasn't got the incentive of playing for a place in the team. How do you mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 How do you mean? He's played well before and been dropped when he should have stayed in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 How do you mean? He's played well before and been dropped when he should have stayed in the team. Exactly. Someone like Obertan has been given repeated chances and blown it, to put Marveaux in the same bracket is ridiculous IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Marveaux always has been and always will be unreliable and flighty. He is a decent enough player to come in when there are injuries or the squad is rotated. The guy should never be a starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 He should have been given a run behind the front man early in the season when Cabaye was in a strop. But instead we had the immortal Shola upfront with Cisse. Extremely irritating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 If i was a manager coming off an extremely bad season, had seen in the summer the owner appoint a DoF who described me as a 'decent bloke and a decent coach' (hardly a ringing endorsement) and i knew i had to get this season off to the best possible start because i think they want to sack me, Marveaux would not be a player i'd want to that outcome to depend on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 If i was a manager coming off an extremely bad season, had seen in the summer the owner appoint a DoF who described me as a 'decent bloke and a decent coach' (hardly a ringing endorsement) and i knew i had to get this season off to the best possible start because i think they want to sack me, Marveaux would not be a player i'd want to that outcome to depend on. If the other option is pretty much immediately reinstating a player who refused to play for my team and has been consistently shit for almost a whole season, I'd be inclined to give Marveaux at least a chance tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 We need to introduce new words for human waste product if to describe Marveaux if Cabaye has been "s***". He is a far superior player to Marveaux, has contributed much more during his time here (the same time period), and provides a level of consistent effort that Marveaux has never achieved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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