Mick Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Doesn't even make the bench. Again. Behind Obertan and the f***ing Ameobi brothers. It's crazy, I think he could have done a job today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Marveaux in a derby? OK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Doesn't even make the bench. Again. Behind Obertan and the f***ing Ameobi brothers. It's crazy, I think he could have done a job today. Me too, especially as we should be looking to attack them from the off. At the very least he would be a great option to bring on towards the end if we are struggling to break through their stubborn defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Marveaux in a derby? OK. Obertan in any game, OK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I'd love to know why anyone would think Marveaux would have an impact on any game. Please list me examples where Marveaux has been on the pitch and made a positive impact. I can give plenty of examples of when he has been invisible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Marveaux in a derby? OK. Obertan in any game, OK. The lack of ability of Obertan has nothing to do with the notion that Marevaux "could do a job" in a derby. Keep him (and yes, Obertan too.) as far away from the pitch as possible, thank you very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I'd love to know why anyone would think Marveaux would have an impact on any game. Please list me examples where Marveaux has been on the pitch and made a positive impact. I can give plenty of examples of when he has been invisible. That's a bit of a daft comment, he's had a positive impact on several occasions. Anzhi being the main one that springs to mind. It must just be a mentality thing with him really, or he's still suffering from fitness issues. Probably time to forget about him really. If Obertan's getting in the squad ahead of him, he's obviously done here. Especially with the favouritism of Sammy (and Jonas, when he returns). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 You'd think Marveaux not getting a game was a disgrace the way some people go on. He has barely had any impact during his time at NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Most assists last season ffs, we'd not have won some crucial games without him. He's not the best player or anything but he's probably the most creative player after Cabaye we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Most assists last season ffs, we'd not have won some crucial games without him. He's not the best player or anything but he's probably the most creative player after Cabaye we have. Is that right!? Jesus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Obertan's rubbish but he's a decent option in a tight game with ten minutes left. He's direct and pacy which, in itself, encourages us to get the ball away from our goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Obertan's rubbish but he's a decent option in a tight game with ten minutes left. He's direct and pacy which, in itself, encourages us to get the ball away from our goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Obertan's rubbish but he's a decent option in a tight game with ten minutes left. He's direct and pacy which, in itself, encourages us to get the ball away from our goal. Direct? Very direct if that means taking an hour to decide whether he should go forward or backwards and whether he should take on a player even though he's already past him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Obertan's rubbish but he's a decent option in a tight game with ten minutes left. He's direct and pacy which, in itself, encourages us to get the ball away from our goal. Direct? Very direct if that means taking an hour to decide whether he should go forward or backwards and whether he should take on a player even though he's already past him. Aye, direct. It's happened a dozen times. He's decent at creating a counter-attack when there's 20 players in our half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Most assists last season ffs, we'd not have won some crucial games without him. He's not the best player or anything but he's probably the most creative player after Cabaye we have. You'd think Marveaux not getting a game was a disgrace the way some people go on. He has barely had any impact during his time at NUFC. Considering the little amount of pitch time afforded to him, I think he's made a very good impact. Can't remember many games where he hasn't been tidy at the very least, and there were several games where he was one of our standout players. In terms of assists/chance creation there wasn't anyone better for us last season, and I don't think we have many players who are better technically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Most assists last season ffs, we'd not have won some crucial games without him. He's not the best player or anything but he's probably the most creative player after Cabaye we have. That's "Damning with faint praise". Marveaux having the most assists for us last season (in a God awful season) shows how poor the return is from our so called "creative players". Considering the little amount of pitch time afforded to him, I think he's made a very good impact. Can't remember many games where he hasn't been tidy at the very least, and there were several games where he was one of our standout players. In terms of assists/chance creation there wasn't anyone better for us last season, and I don't think we have many players who are better technically. When has Marveaux ever grabbed a game by the scruff of the neck and gone and got us a win? "A very good impact". You must have your sights set very low. I don't want Marveaux to be a tidy player. I want him (and all the other creative players) to set up chances, score goals and put 100% effort in. His usual contribution is to flit in and out of games, occasionally doing a good pass and occasionally being invisible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Is he injured or just completely out of favour? Excellent communication from the club on this as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 We definitely missed a player who enjoys shirking hardwork and 50-50s today like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Publius Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Most assists last season ffs, we'd not have won some crucial games without him. He's not the best player or anything but he's probably the most creative player after Cabaye we have. He sucks. He had the most assists because the only other two creative players we have were out for long periods of the season, and because Cabaye played most of the games he did play sitting deep and playing long balls. And assists are a pretty shambolic way to measure a player's impact anyway. Just because you get the assist, doesn't mean you created the goal, or were the most important part in creating the chance to score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Most assists last season ffs, we'd not have won some crucial games without him. He's not the best player or anything but he's probably the most creative player after Cabaye we have. That's "Damning with faint praise". Marveaux having the most assists for us last season (in a God awful season) shows how poor the return is from our so called "creative players". Considering the little amount of pitch time afforded to him, I think he's made a very good impact. Can't remember many games where he hasn't been tidy at the very least, and there were several games where he was one of our standout players. In terms of assists/chance creation there wasn't anyone better for us last season, and I don't think we have many players who are better technically. When has Marveaux ever grabbed a game by the scruff of the neck and gone and got us a win? "A very good impact". You must have your sights set very low. I don't want Marveaux to be a tidy player. I want him (and all the other creative players) to set up chances, score goals and put 100% effort in. His usual contribution is to flit in and out of games, occasionally doing a good pass and occasionally being invisible. He can't set up chances or score goals if he's not involved. He's a good player who hasn't really been given a chance, a bit like Anita only with less chances. Last season he made 22 league appearances, scored 1 and created 6 goals for us. He hasn't scored enough but he's hardly likely to if he's not given a run of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 He sucks. He had the most assists because the only other two creative players we have were out for long periods of the season, and because Cabaye played most of the games he did play sitting deep and playing long balls. And assists are a pretty shambolic way to measure a player's impact anyway. Just because you get the assist, doesn't mean you created the goal, or were the most important part in creating the chance to score. What does it mean then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Marv isn't amazing but he can pick a pass, something we cannot do. With Marveaux he always seems to be massively overrated or underrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 As if it matters as long as Pardew is around he and everyone else are going to be inconsistent shit and revel in the mediocrity Ashley craves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 He can't set up chances or score goals if he's not involved. He's a good player who hasn't really been given a chance, a bit like Anita only with less chances. Last season he made 22 league appearances, scored 1 and created 6 goals for us. He hasn't scored enough but he's hardly likely to if he's not given a run of games. My opinion is that he has played in cup games against lower league opposition and he's still had little impact. He never really seems to take his chances. When he has played a game he has never put in such a performance that he can't be dropped for the next game. I'd love him to be good but I just don't see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 First out of the door in January, it's pretty pointless talking about him any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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