Dr Venkman Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Ben Arfa and Ba will take the piss out of Terry and Luiz, go for them and we'll win. I know Lampard has scored a few since he came back into the side but Chelsea don't look as good as they did without him. Having Tiote to win it and play it to Ben Arfa will be a massive boost over yesterday, get Ben Arfa running at them and we're bound to get chances. Further reason to keep playing him to get him back to full speed, the Ben Arfa of last season is capable of going past Terry like he's not there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Ben Arfa and Ba will take the p*ss out of Terry and Luiz, go for them and we'll win. I know Lampard has scored a few since he came back into the side but Chelsea don't look as good as they did without him. In which games did they look good without him? They looked better in the 2nd half against Man United when he went off at half time. Apart from that he's been good as usual. Great to see him prove so many people wrong that were writing him off after 2 or 3 bad games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Just seen B'burn's 2nd goal. Gamst Pedersen is a cheating cunt of the highest order. Despicable twat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 What a goal by Osvaldo for Roma. EDIT: Wrongly disallowed for offside. Denied possibly the greatest goal he'll ever score throughout his career by a dodgy linesman. Scandalous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 WTF is up with the X-Factor-esque opening on MOTD2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 fuck is this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Wtf was Mikel doing there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Chelsea need to dump Terry, he clearly is unable to fit in with AVB's approach and high line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I feel sorry for Villas Boas, his team just aren't good enough for what he wants to do, I think he'd probably be a success if given chance to do a root and branch rebuild, which is what Chelsea desperately need (not just very expensive famous player), but he'll be gone soon enough, and next manager will struggle as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Chelsea need to dump Terry, he clearly is unable to fit in with AVB's approach and high line Yep. Completely unsuited to it. He wasn't quick enough for that 5 years ago, let alone now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Wtf was Mikel doing there? Mikel is such a ridiculous player. There was a few times when he space, or a teammate in front of him, and just ran/passed it sideways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I feel sorry for Villas Boas, his team just aren't good enough for what he wants to do, I think he'd probably be a success if given chance to do a root and branch rebuild, which is what Chelsea desperately need (not just very expensive famous player), but he'll be gone soon enough, and next manager will struggle as well VB inherited a team that had just finished 2nd. Considering they didn't have their £50m striker for the first half of the season and key players struggled with injuries during that period too, it's apparent that he deserves no sympathy whatsoever. He's spent a lot of money turning a team that could easily have won the title last season into a team that'll struggle to finish in the top 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I think AVB vastly overrated his centre backs when he arrived at the club. Add that to Mikel who has a terrible habit for dwelling on the ball he needs to change his tactics or change his selection. He can drop Mikel for Romeu who has that Barcelona ideology of one touch and quick release, but for centre back I've no idea who he'll bring in meaning he'll have to drop them deeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Didn't have their '50m striker'? He's been pretty shit...I mean not too much sympathy, he's being paid well etc etc but seriously the signs of decline were starting last year, and that second seemed for a team that were only in the race because Man U had spent most the year being pretty poor most the year, and Arsenal's embarrassing collapse. Also I very much doubt that AVB has much say over transfers, Mereiles even was sold by him at Porto, hardly someone he greatly rates then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Hatton to talk about his ickle lad going to Eastlands wearing his ickle Citeh shirt and watching Aguero go on an ickle run? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Didn't have their '50m striker'? He's been pretty shit...I mean not too much sympathy, he's being paid well etc etc but seriously the signs of decline were starting last year, and that second seemed for a team that were only in the race because Man U had spent most the year being pretty poor most the year, and Arsenal's embarrassing collapse. Also I very much doubt that AVB has much say over transfers, Mereiles even was sold by him at Porto, hardly someone he greatly rates then. doubt he had much say in Meriles sale considering the policy at Porto is to sell players at high prices and no doubt they got a fair fee for him as I recall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I think AVB vastly overrated his centre backs when he arrived at the club. Add that to Mikel who has a terrible habit for dwelling on the ball he needs to change his tactics or change his selection. He can drop Mikel for Romeu who has that Barcelona ideology of one touch and quick release, but for centre back I've no idea who he'll bring in meaning he'll have to drop them deeper. You say that, but under Ancelotti they had the best defence in the country two seasons running, despite an offensive style of play. VB is simply not cut out for this level of football just yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Morten Gamst Pederson: cheating cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 VB is simply not cut out for this level of football just yet. Actually maybe agree with you here, should have either stayed at Porto or moved made an intermediary step, he could well have been lined up at a Wenger successor in a few years like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I think AVB vastly overrated his centre backs when he arrived at the club. Add that to Mikel who has a terrible habit for dwelling on the ball he needs to change his tactics or change his selection. He can drop Mikel for Romeu who has that Barcelona ideology of one touch and quick release, but for centre back I've no idea who he'll bring in meaning he'll have to drop them deeper. You say that, but under Ancelotti they had the best defence in the country two seasons running, despite an offensive style of play. VB is simply not cut out for this level of football just yet. I should clarify, when I say overrated I mean in terms of the style he wanted to play and their versatility. Under an Italian manager you are never going to play the way AVB does. At Porto he had a far more physically adept back four, Otamendi, Rolando in particular are strong athletes which meant he could play much higher up than he will have to with Chelsea's centre backs. It's also important to remember that the physicality stretched to his DM too with the inclusion of Fernando who would bully someone like Mikel in a one on one. Obviously the fact his strikers (Falcao and Hulk) were better than anything the Portuguese league had played a part, but purely from a tactical perspective his players at Porto were far more suited to it. In fact I'd say that his Porto side would beat this Chelsea side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Have a mancrush on Kevin Davies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 You can have his address if you like; lived down the street from me until February. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 could this be the worst shot ever? http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/chalkboards/Dz8q39nUx5i3P31Wy0jr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 could this be the worst shot ever? http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/chalkboards/Dz8q39nUx5i3P31Wy0jr Can remember that like, was one of the worst "Fucking hell, the keepers off his line... Oh" moments I can recall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Anybody watching the MLS cup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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