AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 His distrubition from the back was missed today, how ever we did improve when we went to 4-3-3 in that regard. Definitely need to bring a CB who can bring the ball out of the back better than Taylor and Perch before the deadline though. Perch and Taylor are fine with their distribution. Very good imo. Agree, Perch was calm in possession and Taylor loves bringing it out. Our only defenders scared of the ball are Williamson and Simpson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Taylor's distribution is good for an English centre back. Especially if he's encouraged to play it shorter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I really like Taylor's marauding runs as well, I was shouting at him to have one yesterday a couple of times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 His distrubition from the back was missed today, how ever we did improve when we went to 4-3-3 in that regard. Definitely need to bring a CB who can bring the ball out of the back better than Taylor and Perch before the deadline though. Perch and Taylor are fine with their distribution. Very good imo. In the second half i'd agree but in the first half we struggled to really pass through midfield, something Colo is usually excellent for and not just simple 2 yard passes backwards and sideways he usually gets us going with crisp 10 yard forward passes. We missed that IMO especially in the first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 His distrubition from the back was missed today, how ever we did improve when we went to 4-3-3 in that regard. Definitely need to bring a CB who can bring the ball out of the back better than Taylor and Perch before the deadline though. No, we don't need a Colo replacement, we need a Colo partner to cover/challenge Taylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 His distrubition from the back was missed today, how ever we did improve when we went to 4-3-3 in that regard. Definitely need to bring a CB who can bring the ball out of the back better than Taylor and Perch before the deadline though. No, we don't need a Colo replacement, we need a Colo partner to cover/challenge Taylor. Didn't really mean that, i agree with you. I was just saying that a CB who compliments Colo but who can bring the ball out comfortably would be ideal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I'd imagine a defender who complements Colo and is almost as comfortable on the ball as him would cost a hell of a lot of money. Coloccini is our ball playing defender, we need a big, physical defender alongside him; how good they are on the ball is certainly not a priority and Taylor is more than good enough if he can keep fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 His distrubition from the back was missed today, how ever we did improve when we went to 4-3-3 in that regard. Definitely need to bring a CB who can bring the ball out of the back better than Taylor and Perch before the deadline though. Perch and Taylor are fine with their distribution. Very good imo. In the second half i'd agree but in the first half we struggled to really pass through midfield, something Colo is usually excellent for and not just simple 2 yard passes backwards and sideways he usually gets us going with crisp 10 yard forward passes. We missed that IMO especially in the first half. The midfield couldn't get into the game because a. Spurs closed them down very fast, the defenders got closed down well too a. outnumbered in the middle c. Spurs are a good team with a good midfield d. Cabaye in particular was off the pace and he's our playmaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Douglas is reasonably comfortable, i'm not asking for a Colo clone here just someone who is comfortable at passing the ball forwards. If we are going to continue passing it out from the back, both our defenders need to be reasonably comfortable they don't have to be Colo comfortable but comfortable enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Perch & Taylor are as comfortable on the balll yet good defender you will get for under £5m. No worse than the likes of Vidic on the ball. Taylor is very good, looks for the pass or sometimes a strong run. Perch is calm and assured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Douglas is reasonably comfortable, i'm not asking for a Colo clone here just someone who is comfortable at passing the ball forwards. If we are going to continue passing it out from the back, both our defenders need to be reasonably comfortable they don't have to be Colo comfortable but comfortable enough. In which case I'd say Perch and Taylor are both 'comfortable enough', at least they would be alongside Coloccini. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Douglas is reasonably comfortable, i'm not asking for a Colo clone here just someone who is comfortable at passing the ball forwards. If we are going to continue passing it out from the back, both our defenders need to be reasonably comfortable they don't have to be Colo comfortable but comfortable enough. Yeah Saylor and Perch are good enough on the ball for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I'm starting to think i may have been spoiled by Colo and expecting too much from our defenders now tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 As a tandem they are one of the more assured CB's in the league imo. Top 8 easily considering who even L'pool have at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Apparently we need centre backs who distribute the ball better... http://tf-chalkboards.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/images/0bf4f.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Perch is class, his ability to both pick a pass and deliver it over short distance or range is massively underrated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I don't think the problem in the first half was the centre halves' distribution, we didn't have enough options once it got into the feet of Tiote and Cabaye IMO. No striker really dropped off to receive the pass and Spurs were really pressing well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I don't think the problem in the first half was the centre halves' distribution, we didn't have enough options once it got into the feet of Tiote and Cabaye IMO. No striker really dropped off to receive the pass and Spurs were really pressing well. Spot on, it was mainly the hard work of Spurs that restricted us. Combined with the formation change, they obviously couldn't keep it up for 90 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Perch very much a member of our team at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Apparently we need centre backs who distribute the ball better... http://tf-chalkboards.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/images/0bf4f.png Not many of them were forward passes, which is my point Colo is fantastic at that and i still feel despite how well Perch and Saylor did that we missed Colo's distribution. We need a CB anyway, i just would like that CB to be comfortable too and making the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Did you see how quick the Spurs players closed us down? And they outnumbered us in the middle for 45 minutes. Taylor carries the ball often which might result in a sideways pass but we still go forward as a result of the run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Did you see how quick the Spurs players closed us down? And they outnumbered us in the middle for 45 minutes. Taylor carries the ball often which might result in a sideways pass but we still go forward as a result of the run. I did yes, but i feel it would have been a lot of easier if we had someone who is better at striding out from the back like Colo does. I suppose it did'nt help that the distance between the defence and the midfield was so far apart and we did improve in this regard in the second half when we had more numbers in midfield. I definitely would get a CB in, we can't be missing Colo for too long especially with Taylor likely to break something at any moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Did you see how quick the Spurs players closed us down? And they outnumbered us in the middle for 45 minutes. Taylor carries the ball often which might result in a sideways pass but we still go forward as a result of the run. They were more up for/ready for the game for the first 45 no question. Don't think we'll find many teams pressing as hard as they did in that first 45, they chased everything. Was surprised by how lacklustre we were at that when it was one of our best attributes last season. Sure it was just first game lull Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Apparently we need centre backs who distribute the ball better... http://tf-chalkboards.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/images/0bf4f.png Not many of them were forward passes, which is my point Colo is fantastic at that and i still feel despite how well Perch and Saylor did that we missed Colo's distribution. We need a CB anyway, i just would like that CB to be comfortable too and making the point. Well of course, take the best player out of any team in the league and they'd be missed; it doesn't mean those who deputised let themselves down and we need to go out and replace them though. We probably could do with one more CB, but I don't think it's fair to criticise those who we currently have and their distribution is by no means a concern like you've said it is (if anything, it's probably a plus point). Plus, if Perch can continue how he ended last season and started this one I wouldn't say a centre half is a priority, a full back and a striker are much more important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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