TRon Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 He was decent yesterday, so was Tiote. It was weird. Not really, Colo can have outstanding matches where he looks boss, but then there will be games where he struggles against the pace and power strikers. Unfortunately that's the case with the rest of our cb's as well. We needed to buy a big hard cb in the John Terry mode. Tiote always looks rusty after a long lay off and generally starts to look much better after a few games to get up to speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Just catching up. Surprised so many people say it was a pen and not a red. If there's any chance of the attacker getting to that ball first then them's the rules if it is deemed a foul, and you couldn't categorically say he wouldn't have done there. My main concern was whether it was a foul or not. In my view it was what I've always thought was a legal shoulder barge. That happens 5 years ago, or as the defender is trying to shepherd the ball out of play then nothing would be given. Regardless it's his own daft fucking fault for putting himself in that position. Would far rather he'd not even made contact and not taken a risk. That goes in and we'd have still won the match imo, we looked by far the better side even with 10 men. The chance had gone though, so it wasn't a goalscoring opportunity. I disagree tbh, there's a chance he would have got there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 He was decent yesterday, so was Tiote. It was weird. Not really, Colo can have outstanding matches where he looks boss, but then there will be games where he struggles against the pace and power strikers. Unfortunately that's the case with the rest of our cb's as well. We needed to buy a big hard cb in the John Terry mode. Tiote always looks rusty after a long lay off and generally starts to look much better after a few games to get up to speed. Or we were just up against the shittest group of players in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 He was decent yesterday, so was Tiote. It was weird. Not really, Colo can have outstanding matches where he looks boss, but then there will be games where he struggles against the pace and power strikers. Unfortunately that's the case with the rest of our cb's as well. We needed to buy a big hard cb in the John Terry mode. Tiote always looks rusty after a long lay off and generally starts to look much better after a few games to get up to speed. Or we were just up against the shittest group of players in the league. Wasn't he MoM against Man U? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Also I doubt we'll get any joy out of an appeal, the FA hates us. It's a pointless appeal, when it's a matter of opinion they always back the ref. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 IMO he should know better than to make that type of off the ball shoulder barge in the box in a derby. Fletcher went down easy a fuck load by the way (besides the point). Getting yourself sent off like that is daft when you are last man back - b/c like was said before, if we were 1-0 down to them we still would have probably marched back and took the match as they were absolute turbo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Also I doubt we'll get any joy out of an appeal, the FA hates us. It's a pointless appeal, when it's a matter of opinion they always back the ref. Like I say I think there are a few clubs that might have a chance with it, but not us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Also I doubt we'll get any joy out of an appeal, the FA hates us. It's a pointless appeal, when it's a matter of opinion they always back the ref. Like I say I think there are a few clubs that might have a chance with it, but not us. Too right. I don't think there's many clubs who would have a penalty given for that challenge either. Certainly not the CL clubs. I've never seen a penalty given like that in my life. It's like last season when Williamson was penalised for shirt pulling in the area. That goes on in every single game but we are the only club that seems to get punished for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Our disciplinary record is fucking shocking mind, and has been for a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 He was decent yesterday, so was Tiote. It was weird. Not really, Colo can have outstanding matches where he looks boss, but then there will be games where he struggles against the pace and power strikers. Unfortunately that's the case with the rest of our cb's as well. We needed to buy a big hard cb in the John Terry mode. Tiote always looks rusty after a long lay off and generally starts to look much better after a few games to get up to speed. Or we were just up against the shittest group of players in the league. Wasn't he MoM against Man U? Aye Colo can still look really good in certain games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Our disciplinary record is fucking shocking mind, and has been for a long time. Over two and a quarter hours played with ten men, ten games into the season... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 He was decent yesterday, so was Tiote. It was weird. Wasn't so hard with conference standard players in front of them tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Does our manager have the balls to buy a new partner for Mbemba in January? Colo needs to be on the bench and slowly zoned out of the club. There's always a warm seat for him in San Lorenzo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Does our manager have the balls to buy a new partner for Mbemba in January? Colo needs to be on the bench and slowly zoned out of the club. There's always a warm seat for him in San Lorenzo. Well, I'd rather he benched Coloccini for Dummett for starters. Big managers have no problems putting out the best teams. Starting Colo is currently counter-productive in most league games, and a chance should be given to someone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Does our manager have the balls to buy a new partner for Mbemba in January? Colo needs to be on the bench and slowly zoned out of the club. There's always a warm seat for him in San Lorenzo. Well, I'd rather he benched Coloccini for Dummett for starters. Big managers have no problems putting out the best teams. Starting Colo is currently counter-productive in most league games, and a chance should be given to someone else. I don't really think that will make that much difference, he's probably going to have the same problems that Coloccini has against the bigger and more powerful forwards. Might be worth giving it a go though just to put that one to bed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I think Colo's headstrong running about and lack of discipline are more of a problem than him lacking physicality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Just saw the penalty for the first time. Don't think it was a penalty but him falling after Fletcher made it look bad IMO as well as Fletcher's theatrics. Never a red card though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 It was a blatant pen, he shoved someone off the ball in the box when said player was running onto a ball he was capable of getting a foot/toe to. It was never a sending off, but it was a pen. Colo is an idiot and should never play for us again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 That's how I see it (except for last half sentence) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The penalty was never a penalty and if the laws of the game says it is then the game will stop every couple of minutes and we'll never finish a game with 22 players on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 It was a blatant pen, he shoved someone off the ball in the box when said player was running onto a ball he was capable of getting a foot/toe to. It was never a sending off, but it was a pen. Colo is an idiot and should never play for us again. No he didn't. It was shoulder to shoulder and Fletcher dived like he'd been shot up the arse with a nuclear bazooka. Elliott got their in any case so their was no goalscoring opportunity to warrant a red card either. Colocinni is accused of being as weak as piss on a regular basis on here so Fletcher must weaker than piss the way he went flying. Was never a penalty in a millions years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The penalty was never a penalty and if the laws of the game says it is then the game will stop every couple of minutes and we'll never finish a game with 22 players on the pitch. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 It wasn't a blatant penalty, unnecessarily forceful, but I've seen plenty not given. Stupid all the same. The red card was a joke, if there is any doubt he should stay on. I'd be interested to know the referee take on it, if he says it was a push then fair enough, if he says it was obstruction as Colo wasn't in control of the ball then he needs to look at Cattermole's defending 30 seconds earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Grabbing someone trying to get past you in the box and stopping them dead in their tracks is just as questionable and NOTHING was given (Catts on Gini) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Shoulder-to-shoulder is a legal physical challenge when challenging for the ball. But it's not license to charge someone over when chasing down a ball. IMO they were not close enough to play for the ball, and it looked like Colo knew he was being beaten for pace so he resorted to the foul. Stupid play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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