Guest tollemache Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 If you use Carroll's transfer fee as your benchmark then we're looking at a world record for Santon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Terrible today, caught out of position so many times.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Terrible today, caught out of position so many times.. At the cost of one of his better attacking performances. It would be nice if the team as whole could meet in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLK Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 News bulletin on TS saying Roma are in for him but we want £15m... If only the money can be re-invested, then I would definitely take the 15 million. Santon is not a good defender. His fault for Reading's first goal and big blame on him for the 2nd too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I'd take £10m tomorrow if it was spent on players in this window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Ball watcher extraordinaire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 If we sign Haidara I expect Santon to be out the door this window. Good footballer but ultimately wasted on the left, and with Debuchy now claiming the right back slot I think he'll be flogged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Starting to question how good this lad is. Thought he could've done a lot better for the equaliser and seems to get caught out of position a lot. Doesn't really offer anything attack wise down the wing either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 I was slated ages ago for saying I am not convinced by him, not as a footballer he has talent but surely as a right winger never as a leftback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Yeah that left side was fucking woeful wasn't it, combine Santon's in effectiveness with Jonas who does what exactly? No pace, doesn't run at defenders, can't cross the ball. Combination of the two of them was rubbish down the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BrightonMag Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Starting to question how good this lad is. Thought he could've done a lot better for the equaliser and seems to get caught out of position a lot. Doesn't really offer anything attack wise down the wing either. Starting to question? Look through this thread - plenty of people saying you can't have a guy at left back that only uses his right foot. Yesterday's non-attempt to tackle for their equaliser was yet another example. It was a simple tackle, block or slide tackle with your left. What we got was a 12 inch jab token gesture with his right as the ball flew past. There are at least five occasions per game that you can spot. This is not the root cause of our problems, but one of many issues which when put together gives us serious problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Starting to question how good this lad is. Thought he could've done a lot better for the equaliser and seems to get caught out of position a lot. Doesn't really offer anything attack wise down the wing either. Starting to question? Look through this thread - plenty of people saying you can't have a guy at left back that only uses his right foot. Yesterday's non-attempt to tackle for their equaliser was yet another example. It was a simple tackle, block or slide tackle with your left. What we got was a 12 inch jab token gesture with his right as the ball flew past. There are at least five occasions per game that you can spot. This is not the root cause of our problems, but one of many issues which when put together gives us serious problems. Plenty if people think he has been our player of the season so far too though, mixed opinions on him on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 he was fine when the defence was well drilled last season, he's probably just suffering and disillusioned like everyone else at the club would not like to see him leave unless we get a daft bid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 he was fine when the defence was well drilled last season, he's probably just suffering and disillusioned like everyone else at the club would not like to see him leave unless we get a daft bid He was fine last season as Jonas was not as shit as he is this season, and I still think the only reason Pards picks Jonas is his lack of faith in Santon at LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 he was fine when the defence was well drilled last season, he's probably just suffering and disillusioned like everyone else at the club would not like to see him leave unless we get a daft bid He was fine last season as Jonas was not as shit as he is this season, and I still think the only reason Pards picks Jonas is his lack of faith in Santon at LB. He looked really good against Norwich because he had Jonas there protecting him. In fact whenever Jonas has played in front of him even this season he's looked really good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BrightonMag Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Starting to question how good this lad is. Thought he could've done a lot better for the equaliser and seems to get caught out of position a lot. Doesn't really offer anything attack wise down the wing either. Starting to question? Look through this thread - plenty of people saying you can't have a guy at left back that only uses his right foot. Yesterday's non-attempt to tackle for their equaliser was yet another example. It was a simple tackle, block or slide tackle with your left. What we got was a 12 inch jab token gesture with his right as the ball flew past. There are at least five occasions per game that you can spot. This is not the root cause of our problems, but one of many issues which when put together gives us serious problems. Plenty if people think he has been our player of the season so far too though, mixed opinions on him on here. Yeah, fair point. To be honest, I'm new to the forum and just assumed that in 240 pages a few people must have pointed out the elephant in the room ;-) I think people see the fact that he's obviously quite a cultured player and his positivity in the final third and it makes it seem like he's had a good season. In my book, if you're playing left back, that's what you should be best at. Not really his fault - it's Pardew's. Pardew was quite happy to play Ryan Taylor there too. I don't get it - it's not like we haven't had a load of time to sign a left back. Long ago we could have switched Santon to RB, signed a LB and had a much more balanced defence without Simpson going awol at RB. I really don't get Pardew - I really thought he looked like he knew what he was doing last season, but I don't see lessons being learned at all. Despite not wanting to get rid of him, my resolve is really crumbling now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Still think he's a good player and more than capable of being a competent left back. He's just completely lost in the midst of this crisis, form has evaporated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Needs to be rested for a bit but unfortunately we have no other options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Still think he's a good player and more than capable of being a competent left back. He's just completely lost in the midst of this crisis, form has evaporated. Very much agree with this. He's got everything you need to make it as top top player apart from experience. This shitty season will help him develop some character, some backbone but we'll not get the benefit from it unless we stay up. He's only a kid still, don't forget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BrightonMag Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Still think he's a good player and more than capable of being a competent left back. Do you honestly believe not using your left foot doesn't matter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Still think he's a good player and more than capable of being a competent left back. Do you honestly believe not using your left foot doesn't matter? Can he not be trained to use it, when he has to? Unnatural yes but hardly beyond the laws of fantasy. Sure he openly stated he prefers left back. He's been our best player for the most part of this season, but his confidence is totally shot. Like mentioned above he needs a rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BrightonMag Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Still think he's a good player and more than capable of being a competent left back. Do you honestly believe not using your left foot doesn't matter? Can he not be trained to use it, when he has to? I wouldn't have thought so, no. He's had years of his professional career to use it and has shown no desire to, so I'd find it a bit unlikely if he could suddenly train it up now to the level of being comfortable using it a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Still think he's a good player and more than capable of being a competent left back. Do you honestly believe not using your left foot doesn't matter? Can he not be trained to use it, when he has to? I wouldn't have thought so, no. He's had years of his professional career to use it and has shown no desire to, so I'd find it a bit unlikely if he could suddenly train it up now to the level of being comfortable using it a lot. I'd have hoped he could use it for absolute basics, but I agree he is very one footed. It does add some imbalance but his problems at the moment are his positioning, not really what foot he's using. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 He has to do all of jonas' attacking it's ridiculous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BrightonMag Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Still think he's a good player and more than capable of being a competent left back. Do you honestly believe not using your left foot doesn't matter? Can he not be trained to use it, when he has to? I wouldn't have thought so, no. He's had years of his professional career to use it and has shown no desire to, so I'd find it a bit unlikely if he could suddenly train it up now to the level of being comfortable using it a lot. I'd have hoped he could use it for absolute basics, but I agree he is very one footed. It does add some imbalance but his problems at the moment are his positioning, not really what foot he's using. I think they're related. When you know you want to use your right at LB you have to compensate by being in a different position to classic full back. When a player doesn't make a left foot challenge or pass, but then makes a right foot one a few seconds later, it's easy to forget/ignore the fact that the left wasn't used. But that doesn't mean that using the left would not have been a better outcome. There are left foot basics that don't get done, such as clearing the ball down the line (instead coming inside and using your right), getting to the by line and crossing, slide tackle when your opponent has passed you (like yesterday). I've even seen when he's had to pass past a player down the line, and the left was an easy pass, but he played it with his right and the ball went two yards to the left of our player and went out. It all adds up, and it doesn't make anything run smoothly down the left since Jonas has a similar issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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