Mick Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Defender making a mistake when the team sits back, that's hardly surprising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Defender making a mistake when the team sits back, that's hardly surprising. The mistake came from a potential attack didn't it? Wasn't as if there'd been loads of pressure and he was forced into a mistake. It was shit decision making. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 The mistake came from a potential attack didn't it? Wasn't as if there'd been loads of pressure and he was forced into a mistake. It was s*** decision making. I'd only commented a few minutes earlier that we'd dropped back and were inviting them onto us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 That's irrelevant to that post you made here though. It's not as if a mistake was coming and was a result of us dropping back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Was absolutely livid with him for his attempted chip which led to their goal. Just no need for it. Extremely risky and paid the ultimate price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Thought he was poor today, but I remain a fan. Good to have a genuine option to challenge him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 That's irrelevant to that post you made here though. It's not as if a mistake was coming and was a result of us dropping back. Mistakes happen all of the time in football so I don't see how a mistake wasn't coming. Before we started to drop back the mistake would have been made further up the pitch and would have been less of a danger than it turned out to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 That's irrelevant to that post you made here though. It's not as if a mistake was coming and was a result of us dropping back. Mistakes happen all of the time in football so I don't see how a mistake wasn't coming. Before we started to drop back the mistake would have been made further up the pitch and would have been less of a danger than it turned out to be. The mistake came from a potential attack. We had men forward and were on the attack, then he did that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 The mistake came from a potential attack. We had men forward and were on the attack, then he did that. I'll wait until I see it again as I thought he'd lost it well inside our half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 The mistake came from a potential attack. We had men forward and were on the attack, then he did that. I'll wait until I see it again as I thought he'd lost it well inside our half. Miles inside their half tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Pardew looked like he wanted to kill him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Needs better coaching, bored of saying it but it's true This line always trots out every now and again with this club but sometimes the player has to look at himself. I remember the same being said for Oba Martins when we had him, but he just didn't have it in him. When was the last time a young player signed for us and genuinely improved? It happens very rarely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 He's a solid left back. No more no less. Doesn't provide anything going forward. Absolutely nothing at all and is in addition prone to the occasional howler. What's worst though is that he isn't showing any signs of progressing as a footballer. His left foot is still useless, cutting inside is still his only weapon and teams still keep focussin their attacking intent down our left wing. We can do with better and I'm absolutely sure that Haidara has all the attributes to be a quality full back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Talented footballer, but there isn't enough aggression in his game imo. I don't mean that he should turn into Tiote, but I have seen Cabaye, Debuchy, Coloccini leave their foot in and get involved in a battle at some point or other. Simpson wasn't averse to that in the past, and we've even seen some of that from Krul. You never see that from Santon. I can recall him losing his composure a couple of times about 12 months ago and making a few wild challenges when the game was already gone, but apart from that he has rarely picked up a booking. Aside from that I think opposition wide players know that they won't end up in a battle with him. Obviously I'm not saying he should get more yellow cards, but he doesn't assert himself on a game in my view, either defensively or offensively. There's a question mark over his mentality rather than his ability as far as I'm concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 A talent and still learning his craft, I just think there are those that may learn quicker and take his place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I think Haidara is seriously snapping at his heels, and he knows it. Each time Massadio gets clattered though I feel like he's done for. I guess that's how Arsenal fans felt about Eduardo, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Outside of that pass and getting beat over the top once I thought he was pretty good, that error will over shadow it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 He's our weak link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 He's a solid left back. No more no less. Doesn't provide anything going forward. Absolutely nothing at all and is in addition prone to the occasional howler. What's worst though is that he isn't showing any signs of progressing as a footballer. His left foot is still useless, cutting inside is still his only weapon and teams still keep focussin their attacking intent down our left wing. We can do with better and I'm absolutely sure that Haidara has all the attributes to be a quality full back. Haidara has potential but he isn't ready yet IMO. His defensive anticipation/positioning is a fair bit worse than Santon's at the moment - nearly lost us the match towards the end today by being 2 yards behind the defensive line and playing Rodriguez onside; Debuchy got him off the hook, but I've noticed similar in previous games as well... I think in time he'll be a better full-back than Santon, but he isn't there yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Haidara is a strange one to bring on when he has been, Pardew is definitely unsure on his best left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Beware of the Haidara ... http://www.nufc.co.uk/javaImages/a9/11/0,,10278~12194217,00.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 The mistake came from a potential attack. We had men forward and were on the attack, then he did that. I was massively wrong about where it happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 The mistake came from a potential attack. We had men forward and were on the attack, then he did that. I was massively wrong about where it happened. We'll have none of that here. Sort yourself out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Haidara is a strange one to bring on when he has been, Pardew is definitely unsure on his best left back. tbh if your looking at it from a defensive pov Dummets been the best defender of the 3 who's played there this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 He's our weak link This, unfortunately. We have three talented left backs. Let's hope one of them develops into a worthy replacement for Enrique. Considering his lack of development it's questionnable whether that player will be Davide Santon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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