MW Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Who is khan? I bet Kinnear is heading negotiations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Who is khan? The dude who just bought Fulham I think. Also owns an NFL team or summat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Owns the Jacksonville Jaguars. He's a sound guy who has done his utmost best to galvanize the city of Jacksonville to get into their stadiums. He's modernized the logo, uniforms, etc. He has tons of ticket price offers, they are building a damn pool-like endzone atmosphere to get people into the stadium ffs. He really wants people back in the seats to help obviously his investment, but he genuinely has been investing in the city and local business as well. So far, he's done whatever the fans have asked him to do and he listens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Fulham is an interesting purchase, limited fan base and location limits stadium expansion as well. Nice day out on a Saturday mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I mean, purchasing Jacksonville to me makes 0 sense as well, but everyone in the city loves the guy and what he's doing/trying to do for keeping that team there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Owns the Jacksonville Jaguars. He's a sound guy who has done his utmost best to galvanize the city of Jacksonville to get into their stadiums. He's modernized the logo, uniforms, etc. He has tons of ticket price offers, they are building a damn pool-like endzone atmosphere to get people into the stadium ffs. He really wants people back in the seats to help obviously his investment, but he genuinely has been investing in the city and local business as well. So far, he's done whatever the fans have asked him to do and he listens. He's also doing his best to galvanize the long-dead downtown of Jacksonville. Doing a very good job at that as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Yep, have family in Jacksonville and they rave about him. My cousin lives downtown and is really enjoying the things he's doing in the city as well. Put it this way, if he was our owner, I'd be chuffed. I'd also probably figure out a way to get involved with the club as I probably could get in touch with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I used to live in Jacksonville, wow to think it's over 10 years now since then, but the downtown area needed something. It's too big a city that's the problem there, in terms of size it's the biggest in the US I believe, but it is so spread out and doesn't really have a heart to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Location is a big reason for the lack of interest, I'm sure. Are taxes lower in the North East? Just curious if its location centric like over here in America. Not that it really applies to the topic at hand. Taxes are exactly the same but the cost of living is much higher in London. The one thing Fulham has is PRIME property on the Thames. The ground would be worth a huge amount if it was ever re-developed for housing or offices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I prefer Ashley over Khan any day of the week. Khan is crowd pleaser with disastrous results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I prefer Ashley over Khan any day of the week. Khan is crowd pleaser with disastrous results. Where the crowd hate Ashley with disastrous results, seems a no brainer to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If Fulham can get sold in a day, for a good (rumoured) price, how come this twit can't sell the club. We know he's trying. Al Fayed converted Loans to Equity. Much easier to shift. So in essence do NUFC owe Mike Ashley x amount of money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 no , the holding company that owns the club owes Ashley x amount of money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 no , the holding company that owns the club owes Ashley x amount of money But doesn't Ashley also own the holding company? So in essence he owes himself that amount? I'm confused. Bottom line. If Ashley leaves then he can ask for that money back which is putting off potential suitors? Correct? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 no , the holding company that owns the club owes Ashley x amount of money But doesn't Ashley also own the holding company? So in essence he owes himself that amount? I'm confused. Bottom line. If Ashley leaves then he can ask for that money back which is putting off potential suitors? Correct? Yes. What does the club owe him I forget 250 million or something, so he's looking for the value of the club plus what hes owed, probably putting the price at 350-400 million, which is obviously no where near what we are worth. If some Billionaire wants to buy a club, he buy a shit one for 50 million quid invest 300 million and they'll be challenging for the title or at least champions league. Buy us have to invest another 200 million to get us challenging for the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 no , the holding company that owns the club owes Ashley x amount of money But doesn't Ashley also own the holding company? So in essence he owes himself that amount? I'm confused. Bottom line. If Ashley leaves then he can ask for that money back which is putting off potential suitors? Correct? Pretty much. 'Interest free loan' is how it's usually spun. Last couple of accounting years and we (the club) have started paying it back to the holding company but that's usually spun as the extra that Ashley had to put it in when we were in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 no , the holding company that owns the club owes Ashley x amount of money But doesn't Ashley also own the holding company? So in essence he owes himself that amount? I'm confused. Bottom line. If Ashley leaves then he can ask for that money back which is putting off potential suitors? Correct? Yes. What does the club owe him I forget 250 million or something, so he's looking for the value of the club plus what hes owed, probably putting the price at 350-400 million, which is obviously no where near what we are worth. If some Billionaire wants to buy a club, he buy a shit one for 50 million quid invest 300 million and they'll be challenging for the title or at least champions league. Buy us have to invest another 200 million to get us challenging for the league. 250? Thought it was 135? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 At the moment nobody will buy us. We're basically floating along doing the bare minimum until something changes. Clubs like Norwich and Swansea are showing the ambition we should be. We're rotten top to bottom. Virtually nothing at the club is done to its maximum potential. As a club we don't even try to succeed so we don't deserve anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Thought the total amount including the Ashley "debt" is about 135-150 + 100M so roughly 235-250 all-in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 At the moment nobody will buy us. We're basically floating along doing the bare minimum until something changes. Clubs like Norwich and Swansea are showing the ambition we should be. We're rotten top to bottom. Virtually nothing at the club is done to its maximum potential. As a club we don't even try to succeed so we don't deserve anything. I sort of agree but it's all relative. I mean, Swansea and Norwich are arguably progressing more - but they also have pretty much the exact ambition we do, to stay PL teams. Do you think they'll be risking their stability on a push for the Champions League any time soon? I don't. I find this jealously of those clubs from NUFC fans hard to come to terms with. All they've done is sign a couple of promising players, like everyone does at some point. We have a team packed with players they would take in a second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 At the moment nobody will buy us. We're basically floating along doing the bare minimum until something changes. Clubs like Norwich and Swansea are showing the ambition we should be. We're rotten top to bottom. Virtually nothing at the club is done to its maximum potential. As a club we don't even try to succeed so we don't deserve anything. I sort of agree but it's all relative. I mean, Swansea and Norwich are arguably progressing more - but they also have pretty much the exact ambition we do, to stay PL teams. Do you think they'll be risking their stability on a push for the Champions League any time soon? I don't. I find this jealously of those clubs from NUFC fans hard to come to terms with. All they've done is sign a couple of promising players, like everyone does at some point. We have a team packed with players they would take in a second. Swansea have won a trophy, play great football, have an eminently affable manager, are run well by fans of the club and are in Europe next season. Don't see what's not too like tbh, regardless of who they bought/buy. Long term yes we're bigger/better but football is rarely a LT game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Nah, I like them and I agree with all that. But it's temporary, probably. I know we're badly run at the moment but I just dislike this idealisation of the way other clubs operate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Nah, I like them and I agree with all that. But it's temporary, probably. I know we're badly run at the moment but I just dislike this idealisation of the way other clubs operate. Grass is always greener and all that but Swansea are definitely a (if not the) shining light in how run a PL club so IMO it's totally understandable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Nah, I like them and I agree with all that. But it's temporary, probably. I know we're badly run at the moment but I just dislike this idealisation of the way other clubs operate. Why should it be temporary though? Keep it up for another couple of seasons and they will be an established, trophy winning top half premiership side. A club of their size can pull that off too. A club of our size should really be aiming even higher than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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