Rosenrot Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 The worst part of this is it's killing the NUFC brand. We're going to be seen as a tacky nothing club with s*** merchandise and s*** online presence. Our website is complete garbage compared to other clubs. Why would any company want to advertise with Newcastle when we are just a toxic brand? Why would NUFC/Sports Direct want other companies to advertise? It's all there for SD to get as much exposure as possible. Well that's exactly my point. And it's going to kill us in the future, even if Ashley leaves. Will take a lot to recover from the 'Sports Direct' brand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Sports Direct for a business with revenues of almost 2 billion most have lazy designers or do their IT on the cheap to basically copy their website, change the colours and some icons and then put in on nufcdirect.com. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Sports Direct for a business with revenues of almost 2 billion most have lazy designers or do their IT on the cheap to basically copy their website, change the colours and some icons and then put in on nufcdirect.com. Cheap...doesnt need to be flashy selling crap to people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Sports Direct for a business with revenues of almost 2 billion most have lazy designers or do their IT on the cheap to basically copy their website, change the colours and some icons and then put in on nufcdirect.com. Cheap...doesnt need to be flashy selling crap to people. Don't think they care. The shops are absolute shit holes and still do great business. No competition. If you need some football boots etc, where do you go on the high-street now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Crying out for a quality sports store. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Start Football in town is good mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 The 2012 accoiunts disclose nothing about any relationship between Sports Direct and the club with regard to merchandising. The club would have to disclose that as it would be what is known as a Related Party transaction. The only 2 Related Party transactions in the accounts are the free advertising SD get at SJP and the loan provided by Ashley. Unless maybe it did not start until after june 2012? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 this would be marked down as internet hearsay by the local press. doubt they'd be interested (and scared of making waves) without proof. would anything show up in the details of the accounts, maybe cross referencing NUFC's and sports directs ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mavericknufc Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 My mate reckons when you buy stuff off the club's website it comes to you in Sports Direct packaging, anyone know if that's correct? I wouldn't know personally, SD 4 Life. Aye, bought one of the retro shirts and it came with one of those massive sports direct mugs in with the packaging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 The 2012 accoiunts disclose nothing about any relationship between Sports Direct and the club with regard to merchandising. The club would have to disclose that as it would be what is known as a Related Party transaction. The only 2 Related Party transactions in the accounts are the free advertising SD get at SJP and the loan provided by Ashley. Unless maybe it did not start until after june 2012? It can't be anything other than a related party transaction. Would us getting nothing for it make any difference? After all, it's only a link on a website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Aye, bought one of the retro shirts and it came with one of those massive sports direct mugs in with the packaging. Do you know who the money went to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Outsource the retail and merchandising selling to SD for a nominal fee which keeps costs down (but little profit) at NUFC and SD keep the profits from sales, is my guess for what's going on. Understandable but hate anything to do with SD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 On the face of it, it would make perfect sense as SD can operate the shops cheaper than NUFC could. But given the arrangement for advertising you have to wonder just how much the club is seeing after the merchendise sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Outsource the retail and merchandising selling to SD for a nominal fee which keeps costs down (but little profit) at NUFC and SD keep the profits from sales, is my guess for what's going on. Understandable but hate anything to do with SD. could that not be classed as fraud ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Outsource the retail and merchandising selling to SD for a nominal fee which keeps costs down (but little profit) at NUFC and SD keep the profits from sales, is my guess for what's going on. Understandable but hate anything to do with SD. could that not be classed as fraud ? Is it not similar to the catering? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 On the face of it, it would make perfect sense as SD can operate the shops cheaper than NUFC could. But given the arrangement for advertising you have to wonder just how much the club is seeing after the merchendise sales. Llambias claimed we made £100k to £200k from retail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Outsource the retail and merchandising selling to SD for a nominal fee which keeps costs down (but little profit) at NUFC and SD keep the profits from sales, is my guess for what's going on. Understandable but hate anything to do with SD. could that not be classed as fraud ? Nope, there'll be a contract just it'll be a small fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Outsource the retail and merchandising selling to SD for a nominal fee which keeps costs down (but little profit) at NUFC and SD keep the profits from sales, is my guess for what's going on. Understandable but hate anything to do with SD. could that not be classed as fraud ? Is it not similar to the catering? no idea, how much do we get from outsourcing that ? Is it a legitimate ammount as opposed to a "nominal fee" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 could that not be classed as fraud ? Nope, there'll be a contract just it'll be a small fee. It's fine as long as it's not seen as a way of shifting profits for tax planning purposes. Although even then, that's no problem form Amazon and Starbucks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Outsource the retail and merchandising selling to SD for a nominal fee which keeps costs down (but little profit) at NUFC and SD keep the profits from sales, is my guess for what's going on. Understandable but hate anything to do with SD. could that not be classed as fraud ? Is it not similar to the catering? Yes, but that is a typical outsourcing activity to a local business. In reality if the retail operation has been outsourced it should had went to tender, but their are some ways to get around it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 could that not be classed as fraud ? Nope, there'll be a contract just it'll be a small fee. It's fine as long as it's not seen as a way of shifting profits for tax planning purposes. Although even then, that's no problem form Amazon and Starbucks. which it would be surely ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 could that not be classed as fraud ? Nope, there'll be a contract just it'll be a small fee. It's fine as long as it's not seen as a way of shifting profits for tax planning purposes. Although even then, that's no problem form Amazon and Starbucks. which it would be surely ? I can't see it being for that. It's just a way for SD to hold our stock and sell NUFC merchandise so that they make most of the profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Two benefits would be to keep our losses high so he can score that way and he's potentially boosting his SD share price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mavericknufc Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Aye, bought one of the retro shirts and it came with one of those massive sports direct mugs in with the packaging. Do you know who the money went to? I have no idea. I bought the shirt months ago from the club website and thought nothing of it other than a shameless bit of advertising. I have noticed that the stocking is exactly the same on the clubs website and SD. A few of the old shirts were only available in XL on club website so I'd checked on SD and they only had XL available too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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